What Pope Francis Just Said About the Paris Attacks.....

[LovingA2andMI]

According to CNN, Pope Francis just issued a Statement calling the unjustified attacks in Paris, Francis -- "Parts of the Piecemeal THIRD WORLD WAR".

Religion is something that's generally treated with a long-handle spoon here. However, there is a hope, that folks will listen to what the Pope just said. As everyone knows, the attacks in Paris as the deadest in Europe since the Second World War. ISIS has nothing to lose and don't mind death or killing themselves and everyone else in mass attacks. In America, the Conservative ideologue shows no care for their fellow human being with blatant attempts to take from those who have little to nothing, destroy our environment, water and food supply to advance their greed and has led to a on-going state of infighting among ourselves in person and especially on the medium of social media.

I could go on, but I won't. What Pope Francis just said is worrying, especially in light of the state of our World at the moment. Some will respond to this post with a state of sarcasm. Others will read this post and get it. Others will brush on by.

Either way, there is a firm brief, the War in Iraq thanks solely to George W. Bush for GREED, started this sad and pearled course in motion and serious prayers are needed at this time -- especially for the people of Paris.

[ruffburr]

1. Not just-

G.W. but the whole Neo-Con right wing war hawk bunch including Cheney, Rummy,Condie et al. And they cant wait to start more Wars for Profit, Gotta keep their corporate masters happy you know.

[polly7]

2. Yep. nt.

[MellowDem]

3. The Pope blamed the Hebdo attacks on the victim...

The Pope is a jerk, most people I know are more moral than him.

[LovingA2andMI]

4. Some will respond to this post with a state of sarcasm....

mts.....

[Gman]

5. That's pretty messed up

You obviously don't have a clue.

[Bluenorthwest]

7. Francis on the Hebdo killings:

“If a friend says a swear word against my mother, he’s going to get a punch in the nose. One cannot provoke, one cannot insult other people’s faith, one cannot make fun of faith.”

[Gman]

10. I suppose this woman was a victim too?

http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/04/us/garland-mohammed-drawing-contest-shooting/

If you provoke someone about religion (or other volatile things), don't be surprised at the reaction.

[LostOne4Ever]

12. Had she been killed, then yes she would have been.

[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=teal]No matter how hateful the cartoons or event, it did not justify trying to kill someone over.

Ever.

The moment one starts to think that is the moment when you have lost morally. Don't ever cede the moral high ground to bigots.[/font]

[Warren Stupidity]

9. Said somebody apparently clueless about

the pope's victim blaming response to hedbo.

[Gman]

11. I suppose this woman was a victim too?

http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/04/us/garland-mohammed-drawing-contest-shooting/

There was lots of glee around here over this.

[Warren Stupidity]

13. When the facts aren't on your side, change the subject.

You claimed that a statement asserting that the pope engaged in victim blaming over hedbo was clueless. You were the one woefully misinformed.

[Gman]

22. The response cited Hebdo

My response cited a different and very similar situation to Hebdo that was thwarted.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

28. Well, she would have been.

Thankfully, the bad guys lost that time. But I think she convincingly proved the point that in order to preserve freedom of speech it's necessary to keep on insulting Islam and drawing Mohammed.

Religion is, in general a bad thing, and Islam is, in general, even worse than other religions.

Insulting religion, especially Islam, is often, but not always, a good thing.

Yes, sometimes wicked religious people try to use force to prevent other people exercising their freedom of speech.

But deceptively using a double meaning of "you should expect this" to excuse their behaviour and condemn their victims is wrong.

[Arugula Latte]

32. You are the clueless one in this case.

[mmonk]

6. The pope calls 21st century violence a Third World War.

It doesn't have boundaries. Many I suppose will put their own interpretations as to this meaning he is for war. Ridiculous notion.

[LovingA2andMI]

17. And there is nothing wrong...

With individuals placing their own interpretations on the Pope's words. However, they should make sure to evaluate them on the seriousness of which they were spoken -- instead of saying they are ridiculous or nonsensical based on the messenger of those words.

[Cartoonist]

8. Religion is at the heart of this

And Pope Frank is not helping because Christianity is part of the problem.

Your last line about praying tells me that you will never understand.

[LovingA2andMI]

16. And if your are an atheist...

You will never understand. That's what called Free Will. We have the will to listen, speak against or ignore. Ones that are making the choice to listen, are making a wise choice.

[Cartoonist]

23. You're listening to ISIS?

What are they telling you?

As for your prayers, God isn't listening to you. He's listening to ISIS. They're winning the prayer war.

[LovingA2andMI]

25. This is a conversation....

That will end RIGHT here. No continue engagement is warranted or necessary.

[Crabby Appleton]

14. This attack is the deadliest in France, but not in Europe

The Madrid train station bombings in 2004 killed 191.

[LovingA2andMI]

15. France...

Is in European Region, last time anyone checked a map.

[Crabby Appleton]

18. Madrid Spain, also in Europe

had 191 deaths in a 2004 terrorist attack, therefor this Paris attack is not the worst attack in Europe since WW II.

[LovingA2andMI]

19. It's ThereFORE...

And the final total of unjustified deaths are not tallied yet officially in France due to this attack as over 180 individuals are injured and many critically. The total according to media reports, now stands at 143. #FYI...you might want to wait before trying to prove a point that was a small part of the overall OP.

[Crabby Appleton]

20. You stated in your OP

" As everyone knows, the attacks in Paris as the deadest in Europe since the Second World War. " That is simply not true.

[LovingA2andMI]

21. Again, you are making a point, out of no point....

With that, we will choose not to engage further as its a waste of time and takes away from the overall message.

[Ghost Dog]

30. This is correct, thanks

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(and it is curious, the way the Atocha station bombings have been largely airbrushed out of recent history by much English-language MSM). There was also Pan Am 103 (Lockerbie) (UK is also in Europe).

The 2004 Madrid train bombings (also known in Spain as 11-M) were nearly simultaneous, coordinated bombings against the Cercanías commuter train system of Madrid, Spain, on the morning of 11 March 2004 – three days before Spain's general elections and two and a half years after the September 11 attacks in the United States. The explosions killed 191 people and wounded 1,800.[1].. The bombings constituted the deadliest terrorist attack in Spanish history and among the worst in the history of Europe. As of 2015 it remains the worst attack to occur in Europe since then, and it was the worst since the 1988 Lockerbie bombing...

(Edit to add link): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Madrid_train_bombings

[mr blur]

24. Well, really, which rational person gives a fuck WHAT Wonderpope says? (nt)

[Thinkingabout]

26. Unless stopped this group will continue their path of destruction.

[LovingA2andMI]

27. If the group you are talking about is ISIS

We totally agree. They must be stopped by any means necessary.

[roody]

29. What the US has done so far

has nor worked, in fact it created ISIS. I suggest we try something different.

[LovingA2andMI]

34. Would you suggest...

Run, duck and hide as a Foreign Policy Strategy?

[boston bean]

31. Well ISIS probably is very happy about this statement.

Since their caliphate requires ruling a specific part of Syria where Rome will attempt a battle with them. This is the first step to the end times they (ISIS) are hoping for. Per the Quaran.

[Arugula Latte]

33. As promoters of irrational and magical thinking, the Pope and his church are

part of the problem, not the solution.