NAILS IT: This Tweet Perfectly Captures WHY It Is Appalling To Blame Refugees For The Paris Attacks.

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http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2015/11/13/1449759/-To-those-who-are-trying-to-blame-refugees-tonight

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Darkness in Paris
The retribution will be swift and harsh, as will the inevitable reaction, and as will the retribution for the reaction.
BY CHARLES P. PIERCE
NOV 13, 2015 @ 7:21 PM

​There is no question that it will get worse as they move toward dawn in Paris. There is no question that it will get worse as the days turn into months and the months into years. Barbarians have laid siege to an entire European city for one of the first times since Rome fell. The body count will climb. The retribution will be swift and harsh, as will the inevitable reaction, and as will the retribution for the reaction. And the events of the day will be fed into the armored, blind triviality of the ongoing American election, and into the utterly corrupted American political system, and into the carefully cultivated timidity and faithlessness that all of these things have combined to make out of the American democracy over the past 15 years. Something awful has happened in Paris. Out of it will be born something awful in the collective mind and the collective heart and the collective soul. I wish I weren't so sure of this, but the planet looks awfully black from up here, and it doesn't look any different if you close your eyes.​

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a39723/paris-terror-attacks/



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[Fred Sanders]

1. Syrian refugees are running AWAY from these guys.....wouldn't anyone??

[giftedgirl77]

2. K&R

I got a hide for calling someone a jackass in this site who did exactly that to the letter. That's all they did. Their entire post consisted of a statement about letting refugees come to the US & i was wrong for calling them a jackass. Next it will be acceptable to say we should build a wall.

[gademocrat7]

3. K&R

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

4. I heard on NPR that some of the attackers were yelling at people in French.

If the attackers are speaking French, they're probably not the refugees from Syria or Libya. They're probably the sons and grandsons of refugees from Algeria.

If France declares war because of this, they'll be fighting their own citizens. But I'm sure the French government will not do anything until after a thorough investigation.

[thebighobgoblin]

5. I don't think the Syrian refugees are truly being blamed for this attack.

I think the more global concern is, how can we be sure that today's refugees don't become tomorrow's terrorists? I think that's a legitimate concern, particularly when it's apparent that countries like France are having a hard time integrating the North African and Middle Eastern minorities they already have. Sure, French discrimination and marginalization probably play a role, but the fact is, ordinary French don't want to have to walk around Paris wondering whether or not they're going to be walking into an ambush. Legitimate concerns. No easy answers, I'm afraid. Hopefully, we can find answers that promote tolerance and inclusion while improving security.

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

14. Among German refugees, it's believed that about...

fifteen percent may be qualified for actual work. These refugees are set to become an unhappy, angry underclass as are many of the immigrants in France.

I don't have an answer for this problem, but it's easy to see why many are concerned.

[Comrade Grumpy]

17. That figure seems unbelievable.

I don't see masses of people in wheelchairs rolling into Europe.

I see some old people, I see some families, I see lots of young men. Why would these people not be "qualified for actual work"?

I hear noises from some governments--Germany, Sweden--that they are counting on these people to support their aging populations.

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

20. Perhaps I should have used the term "untrained or

uneducated" for work.

Many refugees will happily take menial work, but many also believe that Germany is a very rich country that will take care of all their needs...and wants. It's why they want to get to Germany instead of some of the other countries. Many of these refugees have very unrealistic expectations of what the people of Germany will provide.

[jwirr]

25. They are not qualified because they do not have the education.

There is an answer to that.

[Comrade Grumpy]

26. I dunno about that. Seems like many are now fleeing from Damascus.

The middle classes, not some peasants.

But I don't really know, and I doubt anyone else does, either.

[jwirr]

27. I don't personally know that either but in all the talk around

the attack yesterday someone on MSNBC said that was what Germany was realizing. They need the workers but many who are coming are not trained for the type of worker they need.

If that is the case training is the answer.

[Android3.14]

6. The stream of refugees camouflaged the terrorists

It is an obvious conclusion.

The racists are going to have a field day, and a wise person would expect the backlash as the mob crashes around for the next several months.

My advice, if you are a peaceful Islamic, I'd recommend you have a go bag ready. If you are sympathetic to Islam, be sure to recognize your words can attract unwanted scrutiny from security forces as well as cause social consequences.

This is going to become much worse, I fear.

[pasto76]

10. uh, peaceful people dont have a "go bag"

because we dont live in fear of "race wars" nor any of the right wing delusions and myths that necessitate a "go bag".

"sympathetic to Islam"...yes. I am. because I know US Army Soldiers who are also Muslim. The notion that you are suggesting that I dont have free speech to support my Soldiers is absurd

[Android3.14]

22. Prepared people have a "go bag"

Peaceful, military, academic, whatever. All should be prepared, especially Islamic folks, if the race aspects of this explode. When the mob comes after you, start moving or die. Doesn't make it good or right, but it is a lesson the Jewish people learned after Krystallnacht and Islamic folks could be facing in the coming months.

As far your "free speech" response, I should have made myself clear. I was not suggesting you don't have free speech to support soldiers. That's not the point. I have the right to stand up in a KKK rally and call them all steaming piles of bigoted shit. Afterwards, you can write "Hooray for free speech" on my tombstone. We all face the consequences of our actions, including the exercise of free speech. If this anti-Islamic squalling continues to grow, the consequences of speech are ones we need to consider and decide to accept or ignore.

I have a feeling this could slip over into fascism so fast, it will make you dizzy.

[Comrade Grumpy]

19. That is not an obvious conclusion at all.

First, it's still unclear who the attackers actually were.

Second, France has a very large population of people of North African and Arab descent who have been there for decades.

There was mention of a Syrian and an Egyptian passport found. But I've also seen reports they were fake.

There were reports the attackers at the concert spoke French without an accent.

Your advice seems to presume a religious purge is about to happen. I hope the Europeans are better than that.

[Android3.14]

23. I hope they are better than that too

Human history does not give me much hope, though.

[earthside]

7. Simplistic.

The situation is complicated and involved.

We are really trying to reduce an international tragedy down to a 'tweet'?

No wonder we end up in stupid wars like Iraq if we think foreign policy can be summed-up in 150 characters.

Ezra Klein should be ashamed of himself for promoting this kind of shallow thinking.

[sorechasm]

8. What's wrong with the question? Racism will likely be unleashed as a result of Paris.

For the GOP, there's no controversy that bombs can't resolve. Many are obviously duped by their simplistic rhetoric (AKA Faux Rovian-Lutz propaganda)

If Tweets are a persuasive antidote, then why suppress them?

[pasto76]

9. Its a great rebuttal to the *immediate* right wing response!

the point is made in 150 characters. More concise than most people can make it.

"shallow thinking" huh. Maybe you are confusing direct, to the point and on target with "shallow".

[thebighobgoblin]

18. No, he's right.

What happened last night deserves more than just bullet points and witty quips. We need to stop thinking in terms of "right" wing versus "left". We need to analyze the problem and identify points where we can hopefully agree on a few things. That's difficult to do during an election cycle even in the best of times, but at a time when a psychologically restive population is demanding a response - any response - that's increasingly difficult.

Tweets of emotional support? Fine.

Tweets posing as analysis? I'll pass.

Now more than ever, we need to communicate deeply with each other...if that's still possible.

[earthside]

21. The concise, direct, to the point 'Twitter' response ...

Join.

http://en.legion-recrute.com

http://www.goarmy.com/locate-a-recruiter.html

[thebighobgoblin]

16. Agreed. Well-said.

I can't stand twitter-think.

These are complex issues we're dealing with. We're living in a world that is in great flux in many ways. Leave twitter to trolls like Donald Trump, and let's start thinking our way out of this mess for once.

[cali]

11. Why wouldn't it occur to IS to send members to Europe as refugees?

[840high]

28. I believe they have.

[spanone]

12. K&R...

[Manifestor_of_Light]

13. And when I was young,

the terrorists were white European native left-wing Communist terrorists, whose parents were Nazis, and who were appalled at what their parents had done. The terrorists were born in the early 1940s in Germany. So they went the other direction and hijacked a jet, set off car bombs and killed people.

I'm referring to the Baader-Meinhof Gang. A pretty good movie was made about them a few years ago. (The Baader-Meinhof Complex - 2008).

[Imajika]

15. The assumptions many are making as follows...

1) Some jihadi's are mixing in with the refugees. This is the most immediate concern and there are, no doubt, at least some terrorists gaining to entry to Europe this way - but probably very few.

2) The real concern many Europeans have is that Islam simply doesn't belong in Europe. Even if the 1st generation refugees/migrants are happy to be in their new homes, the 2nd, 3rd, etc, generations seem to radicalize, segregate themselves and reject the secular societies much of Europe has created.

The reality is this tweet is correct, terrorists are exactly who these refugees are running from - but those are the 2 reasons public opinion was already shifting quickly against the refugees coming in.

At some point we may see a real shift to the xenophobic far right in many European countries. I would not be surprised within 10-20 years if many Europeans start demanding Muslims be removed from their countries for only the slightest of infractions.

[smirkymonkey]

24. +1000

[Blue_Tires]

29. Nevermind the fact that even before the refugee/migrant crisis

France has had no fewer than 700 of its citizens confirmed to be fighting for ISIS, and before yesterday had supposedly 5000+ on a 'watch list' (and that's just in Paris alone)

[ismnotwasm]

30. K&R