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The word is finally out on the streets. Months before the 9/11 attacks the Bush Administration's inner circle had forewarning and they responded like CEOs that were in the business to sell widgets instead of protecting the citizens in this country. Their strategy involved tamping down on information to avoid responsibility. And it worked wonderfully for them. Many of them have managed to continue their careers earning a salary as consultants or were still allowed to have a relevant say in the news. They never faced consequences for their decisions
Question now is, who else knew? In this age when leaks are common and nothing really remains secret for long, who else knew about this and kept quiet or worse, were complicit in the cover-up that followed. I can think of one or two reporters that are suspect.
I think we need another investigation to find out what really happened because we're still dealing with tragic consequences from that era.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)Time to stock making mock ups with chicken wire, plaster, and papier mache.
Baitball Blogger
(46,727 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)Who knew what and when???!!!!111
Baitball Blogger
(46,727 posts)The CIA has confirmed that the Bush Administration was given advanced warning. The responsible thing to do now is to review why the Administration took the route of denial and inaction. In case you missed it, they used the chaos and confusion to pursue objectives that have defined us.
If you do not study the mistakes of the past, you are doomed to repeat them. We can't afford that anymore.
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)...us for wanting to know more about the conspiracy to ignore those warnings?
Why did they ignore the warnings? What happened as a result of ignoring those warnings? How long did it take to get even a Keystone Kops-level investigation of the attacks?
Why do you support the bush admin's "official story" of what happened on 9/11?
I guess you were with them, not against them.
greytdemocrat
(3,299 posts)You are a bad boy!!!
Cartoonist
(7,317 posts)That is why there will be no real investigation.
Baitball Blogger
(46,727 posts)If ISIS is behind the Paris attacks, the world is going to come to our door to look for answers.
I think the answers will go beyond the fact that the Bush Administration walked into office with an ABC strategy. Anything But Clinton. They intentionally distanced themselves from a system that worked. And I think their reasoning will go beyond sheer incompetence.
I am more dismayed that a cover-up was allowed to take hold and policies were built on a lie. It is a pattern that keeps repeating and we continue to destabilize our economy and way of life because of it.
I don't think we have the luxury of turning away from the truth any more.
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)...go everyone was shamed into not even thinkiing about it, or you would be against them.
Baitball Blogger
(46,727 posts)FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)which is much worse.
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)tularetom
(23,664 posts)First, Daddy Bush writes a book in which he essentially throws Cheney and Rumsfeld under the bus, in the process making his son look like an unwitting stooge.
Then a story comes out that they had a lot more warning than the famous PDB ("bin Laden determined to strike in US" , that the CIA was practically begging them to take action, and that the files are full of CYA documents from various intelligence officials.
It all makes me think that there is someone fairly close to the decision making process who is about to go public with information that will cast a very unpleasant light on the whole crew.
It will be most uncomfortable for the entire Bush administration but also for legislators who voted to start a war with a country that had jack shit to do with the events of 9/11.
And once the connection between the Iraq war and the rise of ISIS is clear, there will be no place to hide for a lot of people. Even complaint media won't be able to keep it covered up.
It may be wishful thinking but IMO the rumbles are starting.
Baitball Blogger
(46,727 posts)same cues that I have.
Something is coming down the pike. We will not need to guess about this much longer.
dmr
(28,347 posts)is the timing.
Because Jeb! is running for president, you'd think this book would have been released after the outcome of his candidacy. After all it's not very flattering to GW, and is a problem for Jeb!
But who knows what else is written that has hidden meaning only to be understood by whomever or somewhere along in history.
Anyway, the timing is curious, and I think Ole Poppy wanted this published before his death, to prove that these are his thoughts and beliefs. HW's family, friends, foes can't say Meecham made up stories or embellished, instead HW is here to authenticate this book.
I think this is an important element.
brush
(53,784 posts)And get those warmongers in jail.
It's ironic that the Paris attacks are already being called France's 9/11 and these very attacks might bring new facts to the for, and bring down the ones who ignored warnings about our 9/11.
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)sorefeet
(1,241 posts)started all this bullshit. I think the truth will come out after old man Bush dies. His brother could pardon the entire family if they are found guilty. Good reason to run for president.
tecelote
(5,122 posts)Without justice, we are all implicit. It's time we, as a nation, did what's right and put our war criminals on trial. Otherwise we will get what we got. Endless war.
nirvana555
(448 posts)ago. It's titled something like how much is Bush responsible for 9/11. Also, PLEASE check out the PNAC (Project For A New American Century) plan. On page 51 of that document you'll find your answer (you can just google PNAC and Pearl Harbor and it should come up).
tecelote
(5,122 posts)hedda_foil
(16,375 posts)tecelote
(5,122 posts)deathrind
(1,786 posts)Last edited Sat Nov 14, 2015, 08:21 PM - Edit history (1)
It has been known for a very long time that there were many warnings about potential attacks by Bin Laden / Al-Qaeda prior to 9/11 that the bush admin received and did nothing about.
We don't need more investigations concerning this aspect...what we need are charges being filed and warrants being issued against those whos criminal negligence (at the very least) lead to the death of thousands of Americans.
Edit: Name correction.
onecaliberal
(32,862 posts)What do they need bush and Cheney admitting it?
onecaliberal
(32,862 posts)They've already made that public. They tried to warn Rice and Bush multiple times but they didn't want to hear it. Are people so fucking naive?!?