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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMaybe it's time for us to adopt the word the French use, "Daesh," instead of calling the terrorists
by their preferred name. (ISIS or ISIL or IS or The Islamic State)
They do not represent Islam. They just want everyone else to think so.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/15/world/europe/paris-terrorist-attacks.html?_r=0
Mr. Hollande vowed to be unforgiving with the barbarians from Daesh, adding that France would act within the law but with all the necessary means, and on all terrains, inside and outside, in coordination with our allies, who are, themselves, targeted by this terrorist threat.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-vs-islamic-state-vs-isil-vs-daesh-what-do-the-different-names-mean-9750629.html
Isis vs Islamic State vs Isil vs Daesh: What do the different names mean and why does it matter?
If it were up to the terrorists themselves, the world would be calling them the Islamic State in recognition of the caliphate they have declared.
The rebrand launched in June year has spread, despite pleas from leading Muslims and other groups not to legitimise their status.
The British and US Governments are among those using the acronym Isil, while the name Isis is more commonly seen.
Adding to the confusion last week, the French announced they would use the Arabic-derived term Daesh to replace their previous name, EIIL ( L'Etat islamique en Irak et en Syrie).
The four competing names are only a handful of those used by Isis, which emerged in 1999 when it was established by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, a Jordanian militant who allegedly ran a terror training camp and orchestrated bombings and beheadings in Iraq.
BootinUp
(47,156 posts)StrayKat
(570 posts)I think officials are using it. I heard Kerry used Daesh rather than ISIS in his speech today.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)Kerry, himself, started using it last year. I think the use of Daesh over ISIS in the US and West in general has been pushed more in the last year or so.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/11/kerry-daesh-isil_n_6309664.html
Kerry made clear earlier this week that he is committed to referring to the Islamic State as "Daesh," a name that the group considers so degrading that it has threatened to kill anyone under Islamic State rule who uses it. The Islamic State's opponents in the Muslim world have already embraced the name. (2014)
https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2014/10/09/words-matter-isis-war-use-daesh/V85GYEuasEEJgrUun0dMUP/story.html
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-27994277
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)I had to look it up, so....
"Depending on how it is conjugated in Arabic, the word can mean "to trample down and crush." But it can also mean "a bigot." ISIS has reportedly threatened to cut out the tongues of anyone it hears using the term.
"It's a derogatory term and not someting people should use even if you dislike them," said Evan Kohlmann, a national security analyst at Flashpoint and a contributor to NBC News. "It would be like referring to Germans as 'Huns.'"
Kohlmann said government officials choose the term to avoid using other, more common, names for the group because of the loaded words in those popular references. Using "Islamic" and "State" together offers legitimacy to the group, some believe, and referring to it as ISIS short for Islamic State in Iraq and Syria brings Syria into play."
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-terror/paris-attacks-what-does-daesh-mean-why-does-isis-hate-n463551
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Murderous, fanatical bigots...