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riversedge

(70,227 posts)
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 06:50 PM Nov 2015

These 5 Facts Show How Decisions By President George W. Bush Led To ISIS

Bush and his Administration is to blame. Simple as that.




Oliver Willis ‏@owillis 2h2 hours ago

These 5 Facts Show How Decisions By President George W. Bush Led To ISIS http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/11/14/these-5-facts-show-how-decisions-by-president-george-w-bush-led-to-isis/ #p2





These 5 Facts Show How Decisions By President George W. Bush Led To ISIS

Author: Oliver Willis November 14, 2015 4:08 pm



As the world again looks in horror at the carnage left by yet another apparent ISIS attack, it’s worth retracing how ISIS came to power in Iraq and the Middle East, thanks to several decisions made by George W. Bush’s administration.

The decision to invade Iraq, which had been contained by the no-fly zone created by the George H.W. Bush and Clinton administrations and unable to threaten its neighbors or the West, created a power vacuum in the Middle East which had been filled by Saddam Hussein until the invasion in March o 2003.

The Bush administration believed it could install Ahmed Chalabi – part of the public relations campaign to sell the Iraq War to America – as leader of the new government, but he had been outside of the country so long they never accepted him. He was viewed as a “western stooge.”

Almost all of the leaders of ISIS have connections to the former Iraqi government, mostly coming from the military of the Saddam Hussein regime:

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These 5 Facts Show How Decisions By President George W. Bush Led To ISIS (Original Post) riversedge Nov 2015 OP
ISIS = merger of Al Qaeda in Iraq and Saddam's Baath Party AZ Progressive Nov 2015 #1
Reagan & Bush ... Fathers of Al Qaeda & ISIS napkinz Nov 2015 #2
Now those posters are Cool!!! --putting the blame where it belongs--on the Repubs riversedge Nov 2015 #4
I just added a couple more napkinz Nov 2015 #6
I like this one the best--not in the riversedge Nov 2015 #8
I don't see any image ... just a small box napkinz Nov 2015 #10
Never forget these hard truths. hifiguy Nov 2015 #11
and now for some toons on this theme ... napkinz Nov 2015 #19
But but but Obama! But but but Hillary! /////// Thank you for the history lesson, napkinz. Hekate Nov 2015 #12
Fantastic Post. Thanks. zentrum Nov 2015 #14
Loving the Fugelsang quote. Powerfully to the point. Tx for posting. Nt JudyM Nov 2015 #22
#4 - Paul Bremer BootinUp Nov 2015 #3
40,41&43's fault... ileus Nov 2015 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author napkinz Nov 2015 #7
They were almost certainly financed by Cheney 'n' the Chimp as well hifiguy Nov 2015 #9
It was 8 million (with a B) that mysteriously disappeared. Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2015 #21
Another factor: See an amazingly starry eyed Bibi Netanyahou here: freshwest Nov 2015 #13
Of course they are .. so why is chucky toad and andrea mitchelle trying to blame it on the Cha Nov 2015 #15
hey Cha! napkinz Nov 2015 #24
completely right, those who consistently and proudly caused the war, MisterP Nov 2015 #16
anyone who voted for that warmongering piece of shit bears some blame too Skittles Nov 2015 #17
ISIS is a Sunni offshot and product of stolen funds for a war that should have never been initiated. EndElectoral Nov 2015 #18
Thank you for pointing out the facts. Kath1 Nov 2015 #20
Thanks. Between Repubs rewriting history to blame Obama and lefties doing the same to HRC.... Hekate Nov 2015 #23
Founding Fathers ... napkinz Nov 2015 #25
kick napkinz Nov 2015 #26

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
1. ISIS = merger of Al Qaeda in Iraq and Saddam's Baath Party
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 07:03 PM
Nov 2015

This would simply not have happened if the Iraq War didn't happen. This, ISIS is a direct consequence of Bush.

riversedge

(70,227 posts)
8. I like this one the best--not in the
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 07:40 PM
Nov 2015

genre we were discussing--but so true.
Thanks


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Hekate

(90,690 posts)
12. But but but Obama! But but but Hillary! /////// Thank you for the history lesson, napkinz.
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 07:57 PM
Nov 2015

Just thank you.

BootinUp

(47,152 posts)
3. #4 - Paul Bremer
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 07:10 PM
Nov 2015

Paul Bremer, who was the appointed head of Iraq by the Bush administration, passed the de-Baathification law which sent Iraqi army members into the populace, eventually becoming insurgents and terrorists.

Still can't believe how stupid these fuckers were. Still can't believe they actually invaded in the first place.

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hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
9. They were almost certainly financed by Cheney 'n' the Chimp as well
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 07:54 PM
Nov 2015

Those criminal nitwits sent $12 billion that's BILLION dollars - 120,000,000 fresh, crisp new $100 bills- to Iraq. And LOST billions of it. As in the money just disappeared.

726,000 pounds of CASH. That is fifty or so full-grown African bull elephants or 242 average sized cars.

I'd bet what is now ISIS got a major chunk of that money.

More at http://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/feb/08/usa.iraq1

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
21. It was 8 million (with a B) that mysteriously disappeared.
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 04:28 PM
Nov 2015

Well, who the fuck was in charge? Whom were immediately underneath him?

These questions were virtually never asked, at least in a public media situation.

I'm looking for viable explanations.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
13. Another factor: See an amazingly starry eyed Bibi Netanyahou here:
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 07:59 PM
Nov 2015


He thought it was gonna make young Iranians feel happy! In all fairness, there was no love lost between Saddam and Iran, but I can just hear the lyrics he was singing now:

When the moon is in the Seventh House
And Jupiter aligns with Mars
Then peace will guide the planets.
And love will steer the stars.
This is the dawning of the age of Aquarius!


Which it 'is,' but some ain't 'feeling the love' yet. The world can go one way or the other, but it's going somewhere.

Note the confidence and the gleam in his eye when he mentions 'enormous positive reverberations' and 'a new age.' He's thinking the big thoughts there!

The Daesh promises world peace and says it'll save the planet from destruction, when everyone is in their global caliphate. All the brutality and genocide is just clearing the deck and must be done for the good. With each individual doing their mandatory function.

Or else. Just simplifying stuff, you know.

We all want a world full of peace and love, right?

And we love 'new' things. So the majority may adapt to it in a generation of a new global society.

Sadly, I don't see how I'm gonna fit in this. And I just ain't 'feeling the love' from the Daesh guys at all.

Cha

(297,240 posts)
15. Of course they are .. so why is chucky toad and andrea mitchelle trying to blame it on the
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 08:11 PM
Nov 2015

President?

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
24. hey Cha!
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 06:24 PM
Nov 2015

I created a thread to counter the Republican narrative that blames the president for ISIS.

We have to get the message out that Bush & Cheney are to blame for the destabilization of the region. They invaded Iraq based on a lie. As John Fugelsang says, their war threw "Iraq into a power vacuum that created ISIS." They are the FOUNDING FATHERS of ISIS.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027346281

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
16. completely right, those who consistently and proudly caused the war,
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 08:15 PM
Nov 2015

those who perpetrated Libya and Syria, have no business running for the Presidency, or even in the party really
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251807145

EndElectoral

(4,213 posts)
18. ISIS is a Sunni offshot and product of stolen funds for a war that should have never been initiated.
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 08:52 PM
Nov 2015

It is so costly it is unbelievable. Anyone who voted for such a war must be terribly upset with the incidents in Syria and most lately Paris.

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
20. Thank you for pointing out the facts.
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 09:18 PM
Nov 2015

Bush is at the root (no pun intended) of all of this. What an asshole!

His horrible decisions cost so many lives and have caused ongoing disability and pain to so many.

I hated Bush when he was president and I still do.

Hekate

(90,690 posts)
23. Thanks. Between Repubs rewriting history to blame Obama and lefties doing the same to HRC....
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 05:22 PM
Nov 2015

.... I hardly know which way to turn my head to upchuck any more.

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