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eppur_se_muova

(36,269 posts)
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 09:46 PM Nov 2015

PSA: "exponentially" does not mean "very much". Please instruct journos and pols in this matter.

?d147ee

Overuse, misuse, and abuse of the term "exponentially" in public expositions seems to be increasing ... well, a lot, lately. But not exponentially.

(Probably more of a sigmoidal curve, which eventually reaches saturation. But I'd prefer to head off that eventuality.)


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PSA: "exponentially" does not mean "very much". Please instruct journos and pols in this matter. (Original Post) eppur_se_muova Nov 2015 OP
They mean Asymptotically Xipe Totec Nov 2015 #1
Exactly Gman Nov 2015 #3
They mean "a lot". It's just another superlative to them. eppur_se_muova Nov 2015 #4
Yea, in the context as you show they mean "a lot" Xipe Totec Nov 2015 #5
Interesting thing about hyperbole vs hyperbola Recursion Nov 2015 #7
The trivial and the quadrivial Xipe Totec Nov 2015 #8
I'm pretty sure they don't. Donald Ian Rankin Nov 2015 #12
This thread is asymptotically approaching topic saturation nt Xipe Totec Nov 2015 #14
Journalists now take the easy cop out math courses for credit Gman Nov 2015 #2
Perhaps Android3.14 Nov 2015 #6
They have the math for non-math majors Gman Nov 2015 #9
Are you sure they don't mean the business definition? Blue_Tires Nov 2015 #10
The business definition is the same as the mathematical -- nothing wrong there. eppur_se_muova Nov 2015 #11
that's fine... Blue_Tires Nov 2015 #13
I literally died laughing when I read the OP. DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2015 #15

eppur_se_muova

(36,269 posts)
4. They mean "a lot". It's just another superlative to them.
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 09:53 PM
Nov 2015

Speaking to reporters at the residence of the U.S. ambassador to France, Kerry said the ceasefire envisioned by the political process agreed upon in Vienna on Saturday would exponentially help efforts to fight the Islamic State group, which has claimed responsibility for the Paris attacks that killed 129 people, as well as end the drawn-out Syrian conflict, which has gone on for over four years.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141263234

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
5. Yea, in the context as you show they mean "a lot"
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 09:59 PM
Nov 2015

Perhaps they should use hyperbolically instead of exponentially. I think that would be accurate.

As in hyperbole, and not hyperbola.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
7. Interesting thing about hyperbole vs hyperbola
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 10:36 PM
Nov 2015

There are six conic sections: point, line, ellipse, circle, parabola, hyperbola. Each of those is a manner of argument:

pointed argument, linear argument, elliptical argument (leaving things out), circular argument, parabolic argument (using parables), hyperbolic argument (using hyperbole).

The etymologies of hyperbole and hyperbola are identical, from the Greek word meaning "throw beyond" (parabola and parable are from "throw along" or "throw beside&quot . And this isn't just a coincidence; the geometers and rhetoricians of the time thought that studying rhetoric was a pre-requisite to studying geometry because of those connections they saw.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
8. The trivial and the quadrivial
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 10:45 PM
Nov 2015

The seven liberal arts and sciences are:

grammar, rhetoric, logic,

arithmetic, geometry, music, and astronomy.

The first three were considered the three basic paths to knowledge. Hence, trivia and trivial.

The advanced paths to knowledge were the quadrivium and were thought in advanced centers of knowledge, the cathedra; the chair.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
12. I'm pretty sure they don't.
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 05:18 PM
Nov 2015

"Increasing asymptotically" doesn't mean anything on its own; it's transitive. You can increase asymptotically to something, but you can't just increase asymptotically.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
6. Perhaps
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 10:14 PM
Nov 2015

I'm a journalist, however, and my undergrad degree is in mathematics. Minored in English.

Gman

(24,780 posts)
9. They have the math for non-math majors
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 03:58 PM
Nov 2015

Which is why retry popular. Many just want to get a grade and that's ok. But my perception is that too often the job title and even degree that says journalist is interpreted by the holder as qualified to speak and analyze just about everything with the authority of a journalist.

eppur_se_muova

(36,269 posts)
11. The business definition is the same as the mathematical -- nothing wrong there.
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 04:36 PM
Nov 2015

See response 4 for an example of how it's being used lately to mean "a lot" or "very".

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
13. that's fine...
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 07:50 PM
Nov 2015

forgive me, I usually enjoy a 'nuances of language' thread, but I'm not much in the mood today...

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
15. I literally died laughing when I read the OP.
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 08:48 PM
Nov 2015

But I seem to have recovered in time to post. Your OP makes a good point; I just wanted to throw one of my pet peeves on the pile.

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