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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 05:12 AM Nov 2015

One Syrian refugee without whom our modern economy would not be what it is



Immigration is our nation's greatest resource. It's more valuable than our farmland or natural gas reserves or helium reserves or...

These refugees deserve protection and hospitality simply out of principles of morality. But. It is also to our advantage to take them in.

How many future electrical engineers are in that population? How many poets? Teachers? Artists? Mathematicians? Chemists? Doctors?

I completely and utterly reject the conservative idea that immigrants and refugees are a "drain" on our nation: they are a vital part of our nation.

The world is young and brown. The US, nearly uniquely among nations, has the capacity to shape itself to the character of the world. And we should. If you love America, you should push for us to accept as many refugees as possible. They are our future.
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One Syrian refugee without whom our modern economy would not be what it is (Original Post) Recursion Nov 2015 OP
You really aren't going to tug at my heart strings TM99 Nov 2015 #1
Our modern economy would be more or less what it is if Steve Jobs had never been born. (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Nov 2015 #2
Jobs conspired to keep down wages in Silicon Valley Fumesucker Nov 2015 #3
Steve Jobs was not a Syrian refugee oberliner Nov 2015 #4
I lulz'd KG Nov 2015 #5
 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
1. You really aren't going to tug at my heart strings
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 06:26 AM
Nov 2015

putting up Jobs as example.

He was by all accounts a sociopathic narcissist who stole from even his friends, verbally and even physically abused his employes, and his company keeps billions in off-shore accounts avoiding taxes that really should go to this country and its citizens.

I don't dispute that assisting refugees can be an important part of civil duty but you might want to rethink using Jobs as example.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
3. Jobs conspired to keep down wages in Silicon Valley
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 06:51 AM
Nov 2015

All those immigrant engineers and scientists would be making more money without Steve Jobs.


http://www.businessinsider.com/an-overarching-conspiracy-against-silicon-valley-employees-could-expose-how-steve-jobs-did-business-2014-8

Judge Lucy H. Koh of the US District Court in San Jose rejected a proposed $324 million settlement in a class action antitrust case that accused Apple, Google and other tech companies of agreeing not to poach each other’s engineers, calling that sum “insufficient.”

With lawsuit going to trial, The New York Times' David Streitfeld says the case "threatens to expose to further scrutiny the business practices of Steve Jobs of Apple. The blunt emails of Mr. Jobs, an unquestioned genius, could prove to be his company’s undoing."

Judge Koh said she found “ample evidence” of an “overarching conspiracy” among those Silicon Valley companies, and those companies should either require their secrets to be exposed to the public, or pay much more than the $324 million proposal.

One antitrust professor at University of Michigan’s Law School told NYT he could not recall a judge ever saying “the amount of settlement [in a class-action case] is too low and you need to go back and go for broke at trial.”
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