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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 10:38 AM Nov 2015

Doctors Call for Drug Advertising Ban, Reversing Their Position

Pharmaceutical marketers in 2014 spent an estimated $4.8 billion on U.S. measured-media advertising, according to the Ad Age Datacenter.

In a vote Tuesday at its annual meeting in Atlanta, the association called for an end to TV commercials and magazine spreads that pitch prescription drugs.

The ads often push patients to more expensive treatments and inflate demand for therapies, the AMA said.

That's a change from the AMA's previous position, which said the ads were fine as long as they were educational and accurate. The U.S. is one of the few countries that allows direct-to-consumer drug ads.

http://adage.com/article/media/doctors-call-drug-advertising-ban/301404

The Feds need to step in and stop drug advertising. Those ads are extremely misleading.

(I've worked for Big Pharma in advertising, btw. I know their strategies.)

Also, I could watch live TV again.

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Doctors Call for Drug Advertising Ban, Reversing Their Position (Original Post) onehandle Nov 2015 OP
About fucking time. nt bemildred Nov 2015 #1
I support that call. PatrickforO Nov 2015 #2
The U.S. is one of the few countries that allows direct-to-consumer drug ads. ...NO SHIT spanone Nov 2015 #3
US and New Zealand are the only 2 countries that allow this. kath Nov 2015 #8
As someone who works for a pharma sharp_stick Nov 2015 #4
Yep. onehandle Nov 2015 #5
Some of the drugs ads, edhopper Nov 2015 #6
Seriously spinbaby Nov 2015 #9
So i asked my doctor... MindPilot Nov 2015 #14
But on the plus side, Nye Bevan Nov 2015 #22
Congress would have to do it. Rose Siding Nov 2015 #7
About. Freakin'. Time. meow2u3 Nov 2015 #10
I have also worked on DTP campaigns but on the agency side GreatGazoo Nov 2015 #11
I don't watch "commercial" TV but when I catch part of one of these logosoco Nov 2015 #12
Oh please no!! Those things are comedy gold! MindPilot Nov 2015 #13
It's about time some credible group publcly called this stuff out spiderpig Nov 2015 #15
"New or worsening heart failure" and "death-like symptoms" are my favorite side effects. displacedtexan Nov 2015 #16
When you fill a prescription, there is a paper that comes with it shraby Nov 2015 #18
Reading all that small print about the side-effects always gives me a headache, Nye Bevan Nov 2015 #21
Side effects may include bribery, threats, and character assassination in the near future. n/t dogknob Nov 2015 #17
OK guys, while we're at it how about ambulance-chasing legal spots spiderpig Nov 2015 #19
God, that would be nice. Doctor_J Nov 2015 #20

PatrickforO

(14,578 posts)
2. I support that call.
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 10:41 AM
Nov 2015

That $4.8 billion in advertising cost gets passed directly to patients, who often can't afford the huge, swollen, inflated drug prices.

And health insurance itself is rising at 10% per year, WAY outpacing inflation. Why???????

That's why I'm for Bernie. He wants single payer. I want single payer.

kath

(10,565 posts)
8. US and New Zealand are the only 2 countries that allow this.
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 12:05 PM
Nov 2015

It needs to stop, NOW (and should never have been permitted in the first place).

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
4. As someone who works for a pharma
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 10:59 AM
Nov 2015

company I can tell you that almost all of us, as scientists, would welcome the ending of drug advertising. The only people who actually support this kind of marketing is "marketing" and sales. It makes the job a lot easier if patients are asking for medication before the Doctor really thinks it's a good idea.

Doctors don't like the idea of contradicting their patients and sometimes it's really hard to do but they have to spend the time explaining why they don't think their patient is a good fit for a certain medication. Patients too, need to go to the Doctor with questions instead of demands. Tell the Doc that you heard about a certain medication and were wondering if it might be a good fit, don't go in telling him that you want this now.

By the time a drug hits the airwaves the risk/benefit is usually pretty well known but completely downplayed by the marketing teams.

edhopper

(33,590 posts)
6. Some of the drugs ads,
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 11:33 AM
Nov 2015

for very serious illnesses, are absurd. Besides needing to spend half the commercial telling you why the drug can kill you, you have to ask; Should a severely or even terminally ill person go to their Dr and say, "I saw this ad last night on TV..."

spinbaby

(15,090 posts)
9. Seriously
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 12:06 PM
Nov 2015

Those ads that say something like, "Ask your doctor if Fixitall is right for you." Do they expect your doctor has no idea what she's doing?

meow2u3

(24,764 posts)
10. About. Freakin'. Time.
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 12:08 PM
Nov 2015

IMHO, prescription drug ads never should have been legalized. All they do is drive up the price of meds and pressure doctors to prescribe the newer, advertised brand names over the cheaper, older generics, which work just as well if not better.

Then the pharma companies turn around and call the inflated prices the cost of research and development. I call bullshit on that excuse because the government pays them for the real R&D.

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
11. I have also worked on DTP campaigns but on the agency side
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 12:09 PM
Nov 2015

Prior to direct-to-patient advertising, the marketing had been designed by doctors. By doctors for doctors.

What is needed IMHO is a transition to preventative medicine and to curing rather than managing disease. Also the elimination of made-up conditions (for example "binge eating disorder&quot which conveniently have a pill as their solution. Since both of these would be far less profitable for hospitals, insurance companies and pharma, a transition to single-payer is a likely prerequisite.

logosoco

(3,208 posts)
12. I don't watch "commercial" TV but when I catch part of one of these
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 12:10 PM
Nov 2015

ads while I am walking through where my husband is watching, I love to make fun of them!

I especially like the line "Ask your doctor if XYZ is right for you!". I always thought the doctor was the one to tell you what was right for your condition.

And the ones for "ED" are just ridiculous!

 

MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
13. Oh please no!! Those things are comedy gold!
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 12:10 PM
Nov 2015

Especially the dude who who needs a boner pill even though he can't be much over 40, has a full head of hair and a hot young wife . And all those side effects that in many cases are way worse that the thing you're trying to cure.

The pill that keeps you from having to pee so often give you the shits, and the most common side effect of a drug that purports to cure flu is diarrhea, vomiting and fever. How do you know it's working?

And of course the perennial "call your doctor right away" like she's just sitting by the phone waiting to take calls from patients who just saw a TV commercial.

spiderpig

(10,419 posts)
15. It's about time some credible group publcly called this stuff out
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 12:18 PM
Nov 2015

Mr. pig and I just hit our heads when these ads pop up. Endlessly.

"Ask your doctor about..." Duh. That's why we go to a doctor. If we're not happy with treatment we go to another doctor.

The most ridiculous is the ad for something claiming relief from fibromyalgia. The patient/performer says "Now that my pain has been reduced, I feel better". DUH x a million.

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
16. "New or worsening heart failure" and "death-like symptoms" are my favorite side effects.
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 12:22 PM
Nov 2015

I'm in a quandary here, though. How many people would take these horrible drugs without knowing about the possible side effects if they just trust the physician who's getting kickbacks for pushing them on patients?

shraby

(21,946 posts)
18. When you fill a prescription, there is a paper that comes with it
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 12:29 PM
Nov 2015

listing the harmful side effects. Read it.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
21. Reading all that small print about the side-effects always gives me a headache,
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 01:19 PM
Nov 2015

which is ironic because "headache" is usually one of the first side-effects listed.

spiderpig

(10,419 posts)
19. OK guys, while we're at it how about ambulance-chasing legal spots
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 12:37 PM
Nov 2015

There's one for (I forget the medical issue) that says "If you or any of your family have experienced" (long list of symptoms) "including death, call 800 *** ****"

Mr. pig and I so want to dial that number and say "Um, we saw your ad and we've both experienced death, so what can you do for us?"

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