Obama Goes OFF on GOP governors

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Chris Christie is winning the a**hole primary with his callous refugee stance: Not even “3 year old orphans” welcome
http://www.salon.com/2015/11/16/chris_christie_is_winning_the_ahole_primary_with_his_callous_refugee_stance_not_even_3_year_old_orphans_welcome/

[underpants]

1. BAM!

[spanone]

2. K&R...

[DetlefK]

3. There's only one word to describe that:

[Pisces]

4. I'm glad he is giving it to them straight. Don't hold back!!!

[earthside]

5. What is Pres. Obama's response to Paris massacre?

Is this it?

We are going to have a political debate with Repuglicans about Syrian refugees?

Did I miss an announcement about new initiatives to destroy ISIS or help the French track down the murdering terrorists?

[meaculpa2011]

6. It's disappointing. n/t

[bigtree]

15. strange criticism

President Obama at the G-20 Summit: "We Are United Against This Threat"
At the G-20 Summit in Antalya, Turkey, President Obama underscored the need for nations around the world to unite against the threat of terrorism. Here's a recap.


"The attacks in Paris remind us that it will not be enough to defeat ISIL in Syria and Iraq alone." —@POTUS https://t.co/Xs4fRRBaGp
— The White House (@WhiteHouse) November 16, 2015

[earthside]

19. And the action plan is ... ?

Let's have a Democrat vs. Repuglican spat about refugees?

Is the U.S. coordinating new bombing runs against Daesh with France and Russia?
Is the U.S. asking NATO to assist the French in the campaign against ISIS in Syria and Iraq?

Is Pres. Obama going to insist that Congress now pass a 'use of force' resolution on ISIS/Syria?

Sorry for my sarcasm, but big deal ... "We Are United Against This Threat" ... that doesn't bring justice to the 129 murdered in Paris or to the people blown-up in the airliner in Egypt or the 43 killed by ISIS terrorists in Beirut.

If Pres. Obama and Democrat leaders don't get off this refugee cat fight, then they are really going to look like they can't protect America or can get serious about taking on terrorism.

Really, I'm increasingly perplexed by just what Pres. Obama is up to.

[bigtree]

21. baseless complaint

...the U.S. will respond appropriately, in concert with the nation under attack and our regional partners. There really isn't a credible question that we won't.

You're vacillating between warmongering and concern about overreaction. I don't think I need to spend time informing you on what you're perfectly capable of discerning yourself.

[asjr]

22. I'm perplexed that you are perplexed.

[LanternWaste]

40. It's creative that you move the goalposts from implying a lack of response on the President's part

It's creative that you move the goalposts from implying a lack of response on the President's part to implying a lack of understanding on your part.

One would imagine that a sincere curiosity would quickly and easily find the President's public comments in regards to Paris-- so conveniently available to anyone with an internet connection.

[roody]

45. More violence has worked so well in the past.

It must be the solution now!

[ChisolmTrailDem]

46. I wake up, fire up DU over coffee, and the first thing I see is war-hawking. Thanks. nt

[gcomeau]

24. You understand the refugees are ISIS victims right?

That making sure that ISIS does not succeed in it's effort to TERRORIZE western governments into blocking the refugee flow is one of the best possible responses to the terror attacks?

Generally preventing terrorists from getting what they want from an attack is the best possible way you can respond to said attack. You have to demonstrate that those attacks are not effective tools to change your policies.

Don't slip into the idiotic Republican mode of thinking where the only time you're "doing something" is if something is blowing up.

[ProfessorGAC]

38. One Trick Pony

Apparently, you know just the one trick.

It made little impact on the other thread and it's making little here.

[iandhr]

7. This is the 21st century version

of

Hiring: No Irish, Negros, or Jews need apply.

[-none]

20. I'm afraid you are correct.

Why do we give in to easily to the mindless paranoia, reality challenged conservatives in this country, as if they knew what they were about? What is wrong with us, US?

[LittleGirl]

37. Or dirty italians etc...

same song, different year.

[Waiting For Everyman]

8. Because ISIS' message videos are always all about what we say.

Oh, wait. No they're not.

What complete crock of drivel. And he knows it. He also knows there's a reason for the orphan statement and for the Christian statement, yet he pretends there isn't a reason. So that means he's knowingly telling a self-serving lie, which is purely about political points.

Really? Using this crisis, and decisions about our security to score lying political points? He's the one looking bad. And it's nobody's fault but his, it's an unforced fail.

[lonestarnot]

10. Whut you fucking babbling on about? Not clear to me.

[treestar]

42. what possible rationalization could there be

for the orphan statement?

[lonestarnot]

9. Mr. President mad too!

[FSogol]

12. A country that spends $600 Billion on the military every year should be able to spare a few nickles

to keep dead 3-year olds from washing up on the beaches.

Bye-bye.

[lonestarnot]

13. I'm off to manage time wisely. Snort

[meaculpa2011]

14. This statement makes the President look foolish...

and petty.

The political discourse involving the resettling of Syrian refugees has devolved into idiocy. This is a humanitarian disaster that requires bold and decisive action that resettles these refugees as efficiently and humanely as possible, while also recognizing that ISIL is already boasting that they have implanted more than 4,000 of their members into refugee groups.

Clearly, any viable solution is beyond the talents and abilities of today's crop of political buffoons.

[bigtree]

16. 'foolish and petty' falls to the republican bigotry

...which the president properly and splendidly dispatched with these comments.

[lame54]

33. boasting or lying

[ProfessorGAC]

39. That's Just Utterly Wrong

I have to believe you're missing the point on purpose to make a point. Seems like a futile exercise.

[Punkingal]

17. Mike Huckabee is on MSNBC now talking about this and called Obama delusional.

What a POS Huckabee is.

[Renew Deal]

18. Obama beat them up big time

I loved it.

[B2G]

23. According to the UN, 65% of the refugees are men

14% women, 20% children.

[timdog44]

25. Actually

according to FactCheck.org you are wrong. They tell this "Ben Carson said that the majority of Syrian refugees are “young males.” But the United Nations’ figures show women outnumber men, and children 11 years old and younger, male and female, account for 38.5 percent of all refugees."

There is also this. UNHCR’s data show that 50.5 percent of refugees are women. Females age 18 to 59 make up 23.9 percent of the refugees, while males in that age group make up 21.8 percent.
Even younger males — age 12 to 17 — represent 6.5 percent of refugees, while females that age are 6.1 percent. The majority of refugees — 51.1 percent — are under age 17, including 38.5 percent who are younger than 12 years old. These numbers were as of Sept. 6.

[B2G]

26. Really? Because UNHCR shows the numbers I stated

http://data.unhcr.org/mediterranean/regional.php

[bigtree]

29. I've heard the 50% number and assumed that was solid

[B2G]

30. According to the UN Refugee Agency, 2/3 are men. nt

[timdog44]

34. Here is where I got mine

http://data.unhcr.org/syrianrefugees/regional.php

These are the Syrian refugees, where I think the data you post, not wrong, is for the entire Mediterranean.

[B2G]

36. Yep, that appears to be the case. Thanks!

[bigtree]

27. not sure what your point is, but Obama was responding to Christie and others

Chris Christie is winning the a**hole primary with his callous refugee stance: Not even “3 year old orphans” welcome

___In an apparent reversal of his position from two months ago, Christie now says that the United States is not capable of accepting any Syrian refugees for fear of importing terrorism, not even “three year old orphans.”

Christie’s callous dismissal of the plight of war orphans stands in stark contrast to his own sentiments from weeks ago. “We saw the image of that 4-year-old little boy drowned in Syria,” Christie said back in September, referring to the harrowing image of a young child laying motionless on a beach shore. “We can’t have those kinds of things.”

But in an interview with conservative talk radio host Hugh Hewitt, Christie gave these revised comments:

Because he lacks confidence in Administration's vetting ability, @ChrisChristie says no Syrian refugees now, not even "3 year old orphans"

— Hugh Hewitt (@hughhewitt) November 16, 2015

[B2G]

28. Well the OP didn't provide that context. nt

[bigtree]

31. sorry for that

...haven't been in this forum for a while and assumed the Christie remark was already well-known here.

[B2G]

32. No worries. I hadn't heard them.

[lonestarnot]

44. NPR 2% men of combat age.

[Bluenorthwest]

35. It is interesting to me, the US kept a ban on any immigation by people with HIV for 22 years

and nary a word of objection was ever raised by straight or religious communities on our behalf. I am glad to see DU be swift to express support for these refugees considering this community has been so sanguine about discriminatory immigration policies in the past.

[SammyWinstonJack]

41. Ha!

[Jon Fogerty]

43. This Democratic governor is an embarassment

Democratic Governor of Roanoke, Virginia, David Bowers, uses Japanese Internment camps during WWII to defend rejection of Syrian Refugees

http://www.vox.com/2015/11/18/9757638/refugees-internment-camps