General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHere's how to end terrorism:
1. Withdraw US/NATO troops from foreign countries and give the bases to the host country. Stop sending religious missionaries to non-Christian countries. Curb the Vatican's outreach. Start a global public information program to end xenophobia, misogyny and racism. Improve early childhood education everywhere.
2. Disband the IMF. Forgive all the loans they have handed out to third world countries and dissolve the extortive contracts. Set up a non-partisan assistance network in these countries to start getting families out of poverty and slave labor.
3. Put a clamp on US international investment so that corporations are forced to fairly compensate citizens for their resources and labor, rather than just stealing them and making lavish payoffs to the brutal dictators. This policy should extend to mineral resources in the US. Make the 1% pay for the social safety net in every country where they make billions.
4. Nationalize the banks and regulate the hell out of them. End secret international transactions. End use of derivatives. Separate the community consumer banks from the financial casinos. Shut down the Federal Reserve and start printing our own money for the price of the labor and ink rather than pay interest to the richest for every dollar. This will give us the money to do what I am suggesting.
5. End the militarized police force. Take away their tanks and use them to make reefs in the gulf. Encourage a massive gun buy off in every country.
END ALL WARS FOR CORPORATE PROFIT OR TERRITORY. HAND ME MY MAGIC WAND AND MAKE IT SO!
Even if we do all this there will still be soreheads who will blow themselves up on the main stage at Madison Square Gardens, but at least we will have the reins on the legal terrorism the global financial/miliotary gang put us through every day with impunity.
And sorry, anarchists, I'm afraid we have to use government to do all this. If the People truly control the democracy, I am in favor of socializing it.
But of course, most of this is unthinkable given our current political situation. I await your pointless hatred of my silly speculative ideas.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)And the Kurds their own state.
They don't care about the IMF.
And what exactly do the Tamil Tigers want? Hell, I don't even know...
librechik
(30,674 posts)Give them their own country, and split Iraq back up into ethnic sovereigns. That'll pacify them until they grow up into the 21st century.
My magic wand can do that, sure. And save the Tamil Tigers, too. If we cooperate instead of go to war, anything can be accomplished! (Magic wand-wise)
bklyncowgirl
(7,960 posts)If this map is correct, they want what are the countries now known as Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, India, Turkey, Israel, Jordan, a big chunk of Eastern Europe, all of north Africa not to mention Spain and Portugal. Essentially they want everything that was ever under Muslim rule any time in the past. Now the map may be a fake--opinions are divided--but what's absolutely clear is what they do to people who do not subscribe to their particular version of Islam.
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=isis+map+of+the+world&view=detailv2&&id=F8500001D2570BD0F131AF581CAE1FB1FA775932&selectedIndex=0&ccid=8Nid%2b7Rg&simid=607996945602183848&thid=OIP.Mf0d89dfbb460fc11a731004895a9c141o0&ajaxhist=0
librechik
(30,674 posts)but you would have to prove ISIS has standing to negotiate for what they desire. WTF are they? If there is a legitimate need, why can't the muslims have an official state, just like Israel?
I just don't believe ISIS represents anybody except the secret global hegemony of death and greed.
el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)Are we going to force countries elsewhere o do so as well? And if we are going to force that, how are we going to do it without troops in the nations?
If non-Christian nations resent Christian Missionaries aren't they also going to resent Secular Missionaries?
Bryant
librechik
(30,674 posts)Everybody loves and obeys the magic wand, especially if they get carrots instead of sticks, so to speak.
el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)librechik
(30,674 posts)I don't see why most of this can't be done by highly motivated folks with the right attitude and at the right moment. Like a post-apocalyptic hells cape where the banks are already in ruins and IMF is but a memory.
But I am a very cynical person as far as govt is concerned. They are utterly dedicated to doing the opposite of the OP.
librechik
(30,674 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)Not to mention that there's little evidence to support that those measures would stop terrorism.
As you say, it's unthinkable.
And disagreeing with you is not hatred, pointless or otherwise.
librechik
(30,674 posts)but in the spirit of the game, want to comment?
cali
(114,904 posts)for a non-aggressive, non-interventionist country. It's just not the country we live in.
librechik
(30,674 posts)But I understand your strict stance. What on earth would happen if people like me went off with the wrong idea? Magic wands would be just the beginning. Soon there might be thousands of actual people in the streets, demanding the unthinkable. And they would be thinking about it. And then it wouldn't be unthinkable anymore.
God we liberals can't let that happen! How silly would we look if somebody grabbed the magic wand and said IT'S JUST A STICK!
But you are right. That's not the country we live in. We live in a world where the right thing to do is simply impossible to do.
PufPuf23
(8,792 posts)in part over time.
Even with a magic wand, other actors intent on exploiting common people would occupy the vacuums.
Examples include transnational corporations, China, Russia, domestic oligarchs, megalomaniacs, and so on.
Human nature is not going to change alas.
Cruelty, hatefulness, and greed occurs in families. What solves this?
librechik
(30,674 posts)and a program to end xenophobia etc. Nothing can be done while hatred and marginalization is rampant, and you have to teach the kids not to do it. I'm thinking a generation with the internet will do the job sloppily with or without our help. Millennials don't want to make the same mistakes we did.
RobinA
(9,894 posts)Not that those ideas aren't mostly good in general. But I'm wondering who exactly these ISIS people are. People going from other countries to Syria to join ISIS. What is that? These Paris terrorists seem to be from France and Belgium. As such, they've experienced about as much war for corporate profit as I have living on the east coast of the US. None. Yet they are willing to blow themselves up after being recruited by some fast talker who has never been willing to blow himself up for the cause.
I just need some deeper explanation for this.
librechik
(30,674 posts)Deep politics posits that there are many more connections in politics that the ones on public record. For example, the CIA used to hire people in the Mafia to do things for them. That way they have plausible deniability.
Deep politics scholars would follow the money trail ISIS leaves and would be open to shocking answers. Where did ISIS get all the brand new TOYOTA trucks they drive around in? It's a similar question to Where did Hitler buy his tanks and gasoline during WWII? We know the answer to that question, he got the engines from Ford and the gas from Rockefeller throughout the war.
So what do you suppose the answer is to the ISIS question? They will never tell you outright, you have to go looking for the names and companies and entities. But that information can be found.
If you are at all interested in this deeper digging into the undocumented realities of world domination, read Peter Dale Scott,
"The War Conspiracy: JFK, 911, and the Deep Politics of War (2008 reissue and expansion of 1972 edition) (July 2008, ISBN 978-0-9801213-6-0)"
or better yet, view his lectures on Youtube. He knows as much as anyone about the deeper politics of the last 60 years.