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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 01:55 PM Nov 2015

One of the Nation’s Largest Catholic Hospital Systems Says It Can Deny Women Emergency Care

Because of Its Religious Affiliation

https://www.aclu.org/blog/speak-freely/one-nations-largest-catholic-hospital-systems-says-it-can-deny-women-emergency

I suppose it shouldn’t really have come as a surprise. But there it was in black and white in a recent court document: Trinity Health, one of the largest health care systems, saying that because of religious exemption laws, its Catholic affiliation allows it to violate the law and refuse to provide pregnant women with emergency medical care.

In response to a lawsuit we filed against Trinity for systematically refusing to treat pregnant women in emergencies, the hospital giant recently submitted a brief that argues (incorrectly) that state and federal law allow Trinity to “refuse to allow abortions to be performed on hospital premises,” in the context of emergency miscarriage treatment when the woman’s life or health is at risk....

But it’s also completely consistent with everything else we know about Catholic hospitals. We know, for example, that the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, which sets the rules for all Catholic hospitals, has said that its hospitals should let a woman die rather provide an emergency abortion. The bishops made their policy crystal-clear when a Catholic hospital in Phoenix defied the bishops’ rules and saved a woman’s life by providing an abortion. The bishops excommunicated a nun who was on the committee that approved the abortion, and the hospital was stripped of its Catholic status.

We also know that there have been countless women that have rushed to Catholic hospitals when something started to go horribly awry with their pregnancies, only to be turned away, allowed to deteriorate, or worse. Tamesha Means was one of those women. She was in the 18th week of pregnancy, happily awaiting the birth of her child, when her water broke. She rushed to the hospital, but unfortunately because of the bishops’ rules, the hospital didn’t tell Tamesha that the pregnancy was doomed and that the safest course was an abortion. The hospital sent her home — not once, but twice — while she was in excruciating pain and developing an infection. Only once she began to deliver during her third visit did the hospital start providing care.


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One of the Nation’s Largest Catholic Hospital Systems Says It Can Deny Women Emergency Care (Original Post) KamaAina Nov 2015 OP
Then they need to have their operating license yanked. hobbit709 Nov 2015 #1
Tax them. nt misterhighwasted Nov 2015 #2
Remove all public funding venues including tax privileges. Charge them with glinda Nov 2015 #3
Back in '95 we miscarried our 2nd child,,, benld74 Nov 2015 #4
We can stop providing Medicaid and Medicare reimbursement to them. yardwork Nov 2015 #5
The Church is unfit to run health care providers, they let their ideology get in the way of... Humanist_Activist Nov 2015 #6
There's a big difference between voluntary abortion and emergency care for a doomed pregnancy bklyncowgirl Nov 2015 #7
+100 nt restorefreedom Nov 2015 #9
Exactly! smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #13
But Francis and climate change!!! Where ARE all the 'pro choice' Francis fans when these stories Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #8
K&R Solly Mack Nov 2015 #10
they better start wearing kevlar dembotoz Nov 2015 #11
What is it they don't quite grasp about the word "emergency"? lpbk2713 Nov 2015 #12
How ryan_cats Nov 2015 #14
As a woman, I say fuck the dangerous Catholic church CharlotteVale Nov 2015 #15
Seton is pretty bad too .. ananda Nov 2015 #16

glinda

(14,807 posts)
3. Remove all public funding venues including tax privileges. Charge them with
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 02:20 PM
Nov 2015

violating the first Law of medical care which is do no harm. Charge them with abuse and negligence. Close them down.

benld74

(9,904 posts)
4. Back in '95 we miscarried our 2nd child,,,
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 02:25 PM
Nov 2015

but the wife works in the health field and knew her doctor worked in a Catholic hospital.

She knew they would not provide the needed D&C.

We went to another hospital to have the procedure done. I didn't realize at the time and was surprised.

 

Humanist_Activist

(7,670 posts)
6. The Church is unfit to run health care providers, they let their ideology get in the way of...
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 02:29 PM
Nov 2015

medical care, that is unacceptable.

They need to be regulated, and if they can't take the regulation, then they need to quit the health care system and let others take over.

bklyncowgirl

(7,960 posts)
7. There's a big difference between voluntary abortion and emergency care for a doomed pregnancy
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 02:31 PM
Nov 2015

I can understand Catholic hospitals refusal to provide abortions. I cannot understand or support their refusal to intervene in a doomed pregnancy that threatens the life or health of the mother.

If they do not follow standard medical procedure they should have their licenses yanked or face large fines. This is not religious freedom.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
8. But Francis and climate change!!! Where ARE all the 'pro choice' Francis fans when these stories
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 02:51 PM
Nov 2015

come out?

dembotoz

(16,808 posts)
11. they better start wearing kevlar
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 04:10 PM
Nov 2015

i actually went thru this some 30 years ago.
quite pregnant wife develops quite aggressive form of leukemia...
you have not experienced panic until your obgyn introduces you to your new oncologist.
Pregnancy had to end one way or another...she was dropping like a rock.
after a bunch of testing it was determined that the fetus has developed enuf.
a c section produced my son and chemo could begin....

i know my emotional state at the time
had i received bullshit instead of help i would have sought revenge.

this is not to be considered a threat. it is an accurate description of my emotional state at the time in full protect my wife mode.


lpbk2713

(42,759 posts)
12. What is it they don't quite grasp about the word "emergency"?
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 04:20 PM
Nov 2015



"Sorry honey, we can't take you. Can I call you a cab?"


ryan_cats

(2,061 posts)
14. How
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 05:14 PM
Nov 2015

How is that possible?

They deny care and it costs the lives of the mom and baby and this is OK? They sleep well, at night?


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