Death in US caused by: Terrorists = 24 Citizens w/Guns = 280,024

[tecelote]

We're worried about letting terrorists into our country but we do not want to address an issue that is over 10,000 times more lethal?

How much do we spend protecting America from terrorists? Yet, we terrorize our own country at a rate 10,000 times higher?

It's not them. It's us. We're the problem.

---

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/oct/05/viral-image/fact-checking-comparison-gun-deaths-and-terrorism-/

http://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2015/10/02/u-s-deaths-from-gun-violence-and-terrorism-in-comparison-infograpic/

http://www.vox.com/2015/10/1/9437187/obama-guns-terrorism-deaths

[Waiting For Everyman]

1. So if a few terrorists slip in among the refugees it won't matter much?

Or are you saying we don't have enough psychos with guns yet, and could use a few more should they slip in?

What kind of logic is this? You think this is effective?

[tecelote]

3. I should ask you... are you saying we should not take the refugees in?

“Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me: I lift my lamp beside the golden door.”

---

To answer your question, we have a history of accepting refugees and terrorism from them is not as big an issue as so many other issues we face today.

How about this issue brought up by three US Air Force drone pilots:

Obama's drone war a 'recruitment tool' for Isis
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/18/obama-drone-war-isis-recruitment-tool-air-force-whistleblowers

Let's understand our priorities.

[Scuba]

2. And just what has that to do with MIC profits?

[tecelote]

4. Expenditures, not profits.

We spend a lot of money defending ourselves against terrorism when we should have higher priorities.

I'm not ant-military but I am against wasting lives in an effort proven to increase the problem not reduce it.

[Scuba]

5. Perpetual war is needed to ensure the MIC's perpetual profits. This is simple to see.

[tecelote]

6. True. Point made. Profit above all.

[Helen Borg]

7. Shhh!

That is not polite talk.

[Jarqui]

8. 280,000 died from guns in the last decade - I can beat that

?w=560&h=406
Number of uninsured over the last 10 years
2014 33,000,000
2013 42,000,000
2012 48,000,000
2011 48,600,000
2010 49,900,000
2009 49,000,000
2008 46,300,000
2007 45,700,000
2006 47,000,000
2005 46,600,000
Total 456,100,000

2009: Harvard: New study finds 45,000 deaths annually linked to lack of health coverage
http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2009/09/new-study-finds-45000-deaths-annually-linked-to-lack-of-health-coverage/

About 0.1% of Americans without health insurance die each year because they don't have health insurance.

So 0.1% of 456,100,000 without healthcare is 456,000 Americans died in the last 10 years because they didn't have healthcare. We spend trillions on wars and homeland security because terrorists took out 3,000 Americans on 9/11 but we won't help 456,000 Americans get the proper medical care they need to survive. That simply blows me away - it won't compute or make any sense to me ever.

EDIT: Important point: in spite of Obamacare, tens of millions of Americans will remain uninsured

If you think pandering health care tax cuts to the middle class to get GOP votes is going to significantly reduce Americans dying because they don't have health care, please think again. On this issue, Bernie Sanders has it right. Single payer saves significantly more American lives than taking away every American gun and killing every terrorist on the planet. Those are the facts as I see them.

If a politician panders tax cuts to solve this problem, then I wonder what they care about most: Americans lives or getting elected.

[mountain grammy]

10. Yes, there's that too..

It's not in interests of the corporate media to share these facts with the public. The fear and loathing of Obamacare is much more effective for ratings. But the facts are out there. I have three friends who are here today thanks to the Medicaid expansion that gave them access to lifesaving healthcare, and quite a few more who aren't because it didn't come soon enough.

[bigwillq]

9. Slim chance of being killed by either one (nt)