11 people at hospitals, 5 of them cops. no final #s yet, no confirmation of fatalities. nt

[magical thyme]

[Xipe Totec]

1. I hope the shooter is alive - We want to get names of accomplices. nt

[LiberalElite]

2. Another post said he surrendered -

and LE rep at press conf. said they will be pressing charges (or words to that effect).

[magical thyme]

3. afaik, shooter is alive. surrendered.

[csziggy]

4. Yes, he surrendered and is in police custody.

Now they have to clear the building - some kind of "devices" were brought in by him and left in and around the building.

[annabanana]

5. Yes.. surrendered himself apparently. . .n/t

[Xipe Totec]

7. Good police work. And I say that with no sarcasm. nt

[Horse with no Name]

14. Plus he likely wasn't black or brown

it was pretty much up to him if he wanted to suicide or not....

[Xipe Totec]

16. That goes without saying, my friend. He waved the white skin.. er, flag.

But a lot of the militant pro-life terrorists are white. We now have an opportunity (no guarantees) to expose the organization.

[Horse with no Name]

18. Agreed. But I have no illusions

that white skin is a powerful barrier against bullets...

[Xipe Totec]

19. He's alive. nt

[valerief]

6. Mentally ill lone gunmen don't have accomplices.

You know that's the narrative we're going to be fed.

[Xipe Totec]

8. That's precisely why we need him alive. That will dispel that narrative. nt

[valerief]

10. Only if they let us hear him talk. nt

[Xipe Totec]

12. A trial means public records. nt

[valerief]

13. Not if he's declared insane first. nt

[Xipe Totec]

15. That is a public record as well.

I have no wish to start a quibble war with anyone.

I just want to point out the advantages of having captured the perpetrator alive.

Kudos to the police for that. Now the judicial power has an opportunity to weigh in.

[valerief]

17. I agree with you. I'm glad they got him alive, too!

I'm just anticipating the superspin of this case where facts will be distorted.

[HereSince1628]

20. Unfortunately, even in the absence of mental illness, an insanity defense may be the "best"

defense that his attorney can provide. Attorneys don't seem to worry about the stigma they generate, only their clients' interests.

[Robbins]

9. he may have been solo shooter

but the right wing caused this with their attacks on planned parenthood.

[valerief]

11. Definitely. RW nurtures Christian terrorism. nt

[moondust]

21. CNN: One officer has died. n/t

[magical thyme]

22. also one civilian

report I saw made it sound like in addition to the 11 known injured.