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Planned Parenthood: "Extremists are creating a poisonous environment that feeds domestic terrorism" (Original Post) kpete Nov 2015 OP
K&r uppityperson Nov 2015 #1
Switch out "are creating" with "have created" and I'm all in. ScreamingMeemie Nov 2015 #2
Exactly..... daleanime Nov 2015 #7
Media Will Never Called It That And The GOP Quietly Condones It. TheMastersNemesis Nov 2015 #3
Excellent statement from Vicki Cowart. Kath1 Nov 2015 #4
And the MEDIA -- Feeds that Environment... LovingA2andMI Nov 2015 #5
Look to me like James O'Keefe and some GOP members of Jarqui Nov 2015 #6
Agree ^^^^^^ Bill of Attainder houston16revival Nov 2015 #10
here's limbaugh on PP july 31. what's amazing is that 90 universities (at least) endorse this certainot Nov 2015 #27
forthose blaming fox, remember he didn't have electricity so battery powered certainot Nov 2015 #29
This kind of thing just keeps the public in a state of fear. jalan48 Nov 2015 #8
The truly backward drag on civilization is "uniquely American." maddiemom Nov 2015 #9
and remember, it was a COUP MisterP Nov 2015 #16
I lay all of this at the feet of the Plutocrats and their propaganda machines! Dustlawyer Nov 2015 #20
I stand with Planned Parenthood. Hekate Nov 2015 #11
damn right ibegurpard Nov 2015 #12
I could only picture Carly Fiorina and her verbal assaults. SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2015 #13
K & R SoapBox Nov 2015 #14
K&R suffragette Nov 2015 #15
Stochastic terrorism. Scuba Nov 2015 #17
The freepers are jumping up & down cheering Jester Messiah Nov 2015 #18
I would add "extremists aided and abetted by right wing corporate media" nt LiberalElite Nov 2015 #19
Not just RW corporate media malaise Nov 2015 #23
Republican candidates for President promote hatred for Planned Parenthood B Calm Nov 2015 #21
K&R ck4829 Nov 2015 #22
Yes and there's 14 or 15 running for president. I can't tell you how angry I am about sinkingfeeling Nov 2015 #24
Absolutely! KNR n/t Hepburn Nov 2015 #25
k and r niyad Nov 2015 #26
Have always supported Planned Parenthood and will Duval Nov 2015 #28
K&R smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #30

Jarqui

(10,128 posts)
6. Look to me like James O'Keefe and some GOP members of
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 09:47 PM
Nov 2015

congress have a little blood on their hands for falsely demonizing Planned Parenthood as being something they are not.

houston16revival

(953 posts)
10. Agree ^^^^^^ Bill of Attainder
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 11:00 PM
Nov 2015

demonizing exactly the word

They've done everything but pass a bill against PP, and that bill would be a

"bill of attainder (also known as an act of attainder or writ of attainder or bill of pains and penalties)
is an act of a legislature declaring a person or group of persons guilty of some crime and punishing
them without a trial."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_of_attainder

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
27. here's limbaugh on PP july 31. what's amazing is that 90 universities (at least) endorse this
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 02:24 PM
Nov 2015

kind of shit 5 days a week by renting their sports nmascots and school logos to 270 + limbaugh stations. and most of those stations would flop if those schools started honoring their mission statements. they need to start.

one of the 90 universities on this list is the university of colorado, who the deceased cop worked for.

here’s some from one limbaugh show….. i cut it up a bunch

The Lack of Outrage Over the Horrors of Planned Parenthood Tells Us What's Happened to Our Culture

July 31, 2015

I'll tell you, I'm really having a tough time getting past something, and that's this Planned Parenthood butchery. The thing that I'm having trouble with is the attitude of the White House, the Democrat Party and leftists. None of it surprises me, but it nevertheless sickens me to stop and think about what is really happening here, that is incontrovertibly true.

I don't know how graphic you are comfortable with me being in describing what we have learned in the past three weeks and what we have suspected for much longer than that about what's going on at Planned Parenthood. And then after having learned it, to listen to people try to make excuses for it, to try to justify it, to try to explain it. And others, such as people in the White House, trying to deny it. It's stunning.

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I know that the left is depraved. I know that the left is perverted. I know the left is miserably unhappy. I know that they're constantly angry. But, man, if this is that we have learned about what is happening to human beings and that taxpayer dollars are paying for it doesn't get a rise out of some people, it's so instructive that it is literally almost paralyzingly shocking.

And then after that, I become overtaken by just sheer anger. What are we talking about here? We're talking about infants at a stage in the womb that were they to be born they would be considered babies and they would be alive, and they would be able to open their eyes and laugh and cry and pee and poop and smile and exhibit every aspect of the complete total innocence that they are.

We would be embracing them and cuddling them and showing them off to our family and talking about the miracle of life. We would be thanking God. But there is a group of people that just days, seconds, hours before that miracle occurs are inserting forceps into the womb of the mother where this little angel of innocence is awaiting birth, and that little bundle of joy and love -- that little miracle -- is extracted while it's capable of knowing what pain is.

The forceps are inserted in such a way as to extract a full functioning brain, and then, in order to extract the remainder of what used to be what everybody who experiences it calls a miracle, a gift of God, the skull is crushed so that the remainder can be easily removed, and from there, an organization in the academician of Josef Mengele takes over. Actually, they start the whole process.

Smiling, laughing, crying, peeing, pooping, everything that happens. Just moments, days, weeks from being shown off proudly to members of family, the liver, the lungs, other body parts, are attempted to be taken whole, and then those items -- the heart, the liver, whatever they can get -- are sold. The White House says nothing to see here.

Selling these body parts -- the life -- for medical research. And yet, there isn't one medical advancement that any of the people responsible for this can point to and say, "Look what we've done! Look at the advances that we've made!" It's purely for money and profits. It's barbaric beyond any ability I have to describe it. I have waited. Two weeks, three weeks have gone by. There's no room for equivocation on this. There's no room for, "Well, what if there's something we don't understand here?" There's no room for that. This is clear-cut depravity, murder.
so he all that time to use his god-like truth-seeky-ness to realize the video was a propaganda piece but he’s OUTRAGED at the ‘buchery’-


well, i suppose that could be expected from one of the main voices to lie us into iraq and get thousands killed.

And that human beings are doing this to one another and claiming that people who oppose this somehow are conducting a War on Women or are unaware and unfeeling of another person's rights? Are you serious? Seriously, are we to be told -- are we to believe -- that the people doing this procedure and this extraction, they're the ones that have the monopoly on human rights? And that those of us who are repulsed by this, we're the ones that don't care about human rights?

Everything about this is not only upside down and inside out, it is literally sick. And because there are no pictures, actual pictures of what these people are doing, it is hard for a society which is conditioned to be shocked only by what they see, to really understand it. Because it's been so successfully portrayed as women's rights, freedom, liberty, equality, or what have you. We learned just yesterday that some of what I just described happens after, if somebody at Planned Parenthood makes a "mistake" and the baby is born.

They don't call it that.

They call it "arrives intact."

The low-information crowd is not supposed to know what's going on. Even after you have a baby outside the womb, the same procedure's happened, and excuses are made for that. And the same people who understandably... By the way, this is not a criticism, per se. But the same people who have their hearts melted over cruelty to animals seem unmoved at all by this. In fact, if you make this analogy and comparison, they attack you for making the analogy and not being sophisticated enough to understand what's really going on here.

Well, if this is sophistication, if you have to be sophisticated to properly understand what's going on here, then who wants it? All I know is that's not what this country used to be.

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These are not our values. "This is not who we are," as the president loves to say. We come to find out that Hillary Clinton has profited, benefited handsomely from donations from the group that conducts this barbarism.

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Their entire effort is to suppress the videos of Planned Parenthood officials admitting, smiling, laughing, admitting, eating and drinking, describing what they do. And describing the pricing and the profit. The crisis PR firm wants to suppress that. The crisis PR firm has scrubbed from its own website its own involvement with Planned Parenthood. But there is a large, functioning, intact political entity doing everything it can to make sure this does not damage its political agenda.

This party claims to care about little people. This party claims to care about the defenseless. This party claims, the Democrats, to be bonding and at one with the innocent and the helpless and the poor, the little guy. Look at what they're doing to the essence of the little guy, the essence of the poor, the essence of the defenseless. Look at what they're doing and look at what they're doing to make excuses for it. And then taxpayer dollars are used to pay for this.

It's just sick.

It's just sick.

The lack of outrage about it kind of tells us a lot that we need to know about other cultural decay and depravity that's happening.

xxxxx

See, this is another great example of just how far, just how low our culture is that the wanton killing of babies and harvesting their body parts is a partisan issue. Really? Life and death is a partisan issue? The sanctity of life is a partisan issue? Really? This is something about which we need to be able to cross the aisle and compromise?

Where do you compromise with this kind of evil? I've never been able to have that explained to me. How do you compromise with evil? That's what this is. But that it's viewed as a partisan issue. The death of innocent babies! I just... And here's Hillary. She tweeted, "Proud to stand with Planned Parenthood and for access to quality, affordable health care for women, men and young people." Is that what's going on in there, "quality, affordable health care"? That's what we're talking about?

You see how we bastardize our language even?

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Look at what the left tried to do to this country and continues to do over the notion of torture. "Oh, yeah! We were a reprobate country! We were horrible! We were just the worst, because we engaged in enhanced interrogation techniques. We tortured terrorists like Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. We waterboarded 'em! That's not who we are. That was horrible, that was rotten. We deserved to lose the Iraq war. We deserved a couple of terrorist hits! We deserve for the ranks of terrorist to expand because we're so filthy horrible that we engage in torture."

The very same people look at what's going on at Planned Parenthood, and they care so little they don't even shrug. And they don't even see the inconsistency or hypocrisy in their positions. These are the people that tell us they have the biggest hearts; they are the most compassionate among us. They are the ones to be trusted with caring for people because people are not able to do that for themselves. Well, you can't get a more striking example of helplessness than a child in a womb.

And here come the forceps of Planned Parenthood.

I know this makes a lot of people nervous, and damn it, it should! This is a nation losing its soul, and this is not happening in a vacuum. We've got single-digit kids -- nine years old, eight years old -- killing five-year-olds with guns in Chicago, and around the country. We have a crime rate that is out of control involving murder, violence. And the root of it -- I guarantee you at the root of it -- is the loss of appreciation for the sanctity, the uniqueness, the value of life, because it's cheap now.


so it’s criminal black kids in chicago, not kids getting loaded guns from home

You cannot remove that aspect from any of this aberrant criminal behavior that is reaching new lows and is expanding into new boundaries. Yeah, we've always had crime. Yeah, we've always had murder. We haven't had nine-year-olds shooting five-year-olds, knowing how to do it. That's just... I don't know, folks. The only time we hear of the term "gift of love" is when people talk about illegal aliens crossing the border. Yep, that's a "gift of love," and any outspokenness against that procedure?


and criminals streaming across the border

"Well, that's intolerable! We can't have that. That's discrimination. That is bigotry. Racism!" If you don't sit back idly and just let the border be overrun, you are the problem. Those are "gifts of love" crossing our border. "White House Says Planned Parenthood Videos Are Fake." From the place in our country where the leadership should be unquestionable, where the people who live and work, who have taken an oath to defend the Constitution -- including the right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness!

The very people we have elected to defend and protect all of us: Nah those videos? They're fake! There's nothing to see at Planned Parenthood, nothing going on there. "The White House expressed its firm belief Thursday that recently-released videos attacking Planned Parenthood are 'fraudulent.' Their source: Planned Parenthood." Planned Parenthood told the White House the videos are fake, so they must be fake.

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That group, USAID, gave millions of dollars to Planned Parenthood when Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State. The State Department's Agency for International Development. This is a group that's to deal with the development of third world countries. That's what the purpose of the AID budget is, and $100 million went to Planned Parenthood from Hillary Clinton's State Department while she was there. Hillary now says "Republican Efforts to Defund Planned Parenthood 'Regrettable.'"

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But again, I regret if you found this to be uncomfortable. It is, folks. My conscience... I just can't sit here and act like everything's normal. I'm infuriated.

I'm literally infuriated when I look at statements by Hillary Clinton or Barbara Boxer and the White House, and realize that killing certain people is okay to some people. I mean, this is just... It's become a partisan issue? I know it's always been one. Abortion is a partisan issue. But this isn't. This is above that. This is so far beyond abortion, and these people know it. That's why they're trying to contain it, make it all part of the abortion process.

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When I started the program today, I knew that I was going to lead off with the Planned Parenthood stuff because I finally reached my absorption limit with the things that the left is saying, the White House denying it, saying the videos are doctored. To me this is just, I don't understand how there's two sides to this.

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I'm not trying to guilt-trip anybody. Far from it. I'm trying to do just the opposite: Inspire, not guilt trip. But this says too much about us. What's happening in these clinics that we've learned is it says too much about where our culture is and it's got to stop.


trying to inspire, based on bullshit
 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
29. forthose blaming fox, remember he didn't have electricity so battery powered
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 08:55 PM
Nov 2015

radio is a good bet.

btw limbaugh mentions body parts a few times above - like they probably all do

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
9. The truly backward drag on civilization is "uniquely American."
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 10:47 PM
Nov 2015

For a couple of centuries the United States was in the vanguard of advancing civilization. Then something scary happened: the most reactionary among us achieved a powerful voice, with no reasonable, thinking considered. Take "Creationism": If one believes in the biblical God, why assume he adheres to our own limited imagination? Wouldn't he be bored just zapping the universe into being? Why not amuse himself by playing around with Evolution? A lot more interesting, wouldn't even the strictest fundamentalist agree? The rest of the world has advanced way beyond the "fundie" Americans who currently are the loudest voices. Disregard of their views by the more intellectual seems to be increasingly a mistake.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
20. I lay all of this at the feet of the Plutocrats and their propaganda machines!
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 10:05 AM
Nov 2015

They want to keep us divided and blaming each other for the problems created by TPTB. They have to ratchet up the misinformation and hate to keep their prpaganda victims on track. They don't care what happens to the victims of these tragedies and simply use it to their advantage. The hyper-partisanship they created fosters the us vs them climate. It is up to us to counter this and teach the more easily swayed as to how they are being manipulated. Not easy to do, but you can do it with some.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,126 posts)
13. I could only picture Carly Fiorina and her verbal assaults.
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 11:26 PM
Nov 2015

Her particular style of hurling insults towards her perceived enemies is cutting and personal and vicious. I think she is an accessory to this crime or any future attacks on PP.

 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
18. The freepers are jumping up & down cheering
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 09:13 AM
Nov 2015

Far as they're concerned the shooter is a hero. Makes me sick.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
19. I would add "extremists aided and abetted by right wing corporate media" nt
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 09:23 AM
Nov 2015

Flush et al, you own this.
Edit: This is just post #12 in other words.

malaise

(269,087 posts)
23. Not just RW corporate media
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 10:16 AM
Nov 2015

O'Keefe got lots of coverage from Joe Scum and others at GEM$NBComcast and CNN

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
21. Republican candidates for President promote hatred for Planned Parenthood
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 10:10 AM
Nov 2015

and in my opinion are creating the atmosphere for terrorism!

sinkingfeeling

(51,464 posts)
24. Yes and there's 14 or 15 running for president. I can't tell you how angry I am about
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 12:32 PM
Nov 2015

this shooting and how the media is pretending that PP wasn't the target.

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