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lovuian

(19,362 posts)
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 12:15 AM Dec 2015

War of Words escalating between Turkey and Russia




and this


CNN statement that Turkey may have blocked the movement of Russian ships
on the Dardanelles and the Strait of Bosporus.


Is this statement true?

because if it is ......Turkey blocking Russian ships would be an act of war and frankly where does the USA stand .....from Obama's statement Turkey has a right to defend itself

Russia isn't going to like Turkey war ships aiming their guns on their ships

I'm hoping CNN is wrong

Oh I'll add this link because there is a way to track ships through the Dardanelles
http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:32/centery:43/zoom






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PufPuf23

(8,791 posts)
1. That would be extremely serious for Turkey to block Dardanelles and the Strait of Bosporus to Russia
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 01:03 AM
Dec 2015

That is Russia only direct route to the Mediterranean.

I have not seen other reports but have no TV.

PufPuf23

(8,791 posts)
2. Under the 1936 Montreux Convention Turkey can close the Bosporus Straits and the Dardanelles to wars
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 01:09 AM
Dec 2015

I do not know anything about this source. There is a video at the link.

Putin's Black Sea fleet to be bottled up by Turkey. #BlackSeaMatters



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Part of channel(s): Syria (current event), Ukraine (current event)

Under the 1936 Montreux Convention Turkey can close the Bosporus Straits and the Dardanelles to warships. If Turkey feels it is under threat of attack it can close the straits at any time. This would cut the supply lines to Syria and Iran from Russia. The only thing Russia could do is attack the straits thus committing an act of war and bring the full force of NATO against them.

Read more at http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ab6_1448912689#g20qzj38SzJvAf5J.99

lovuian

(19,362 posts)
4. That's basicly the chatter going around the web
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 01:41 AM
Dec 2015

We know that Turkey shot first

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/25/middleeast/syria-turkey-russia-warplane-shot-down/

Istanbul (CNN)Tensions in the Middle East ratcheted up dangerously Wednesday, a day after Turkey shot down a Russian warplane, with the Turkish President accusing Russia of deceit and Russia announcing it would deploy anti-aircraft missiles to Syria.

Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoygu said on his ministry's Twitter feed that the country would deploy S-400 defense missile systems to its Hmeymim air base near Latakia, on Syria's Mediterranean coast.

The missiles have a range of 250 kilometers (155 miles), according to the missilethreat.com website. The Turkish border is less than 30 miles away.

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
5. If in fact this is actually happening, Turkey is a member of NATO...
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 10:13 AM
Dec 2015

this could get very interesting for us.

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