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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 12:40 AM Dec 2015

After Trump Then Who?

If Trump goes down and he possibly will, who will take the lead. Cruz? Rubio? It is like being in a mine field. They are equally crazy and dangerous. Kasich is supposedly a moderate and he is a God greek. Who is their best candidate in the bunch?

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After Trump Then Who? (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Dec 2015 OP
I am hoping they will all yuiyoshida Dec 2015 #1
Should Trump go down - expect Cruz to rise quickly. imo 840high Dec 2015 #2
He's waning. I too expect Cruz to have his moment. morningfog Dec 2015 #5
Not a lot of time left for "moments. First primaries are only 8 weeks off BlueStreak Dec 2015 #15
With this crowded field, January is just the beginning morningfog Dec 2015 #16
This time a brokered convention really does look like a possibility BlueStreak Dec 2015 #18
I expect tRump to go down one way or another.... daleanime Dec 2015 #7
Cruz seems to be the stealth "real" candidate... TreasonousBastard Dec 2015 #3
If he goes down, it will be the candidate that Republicans think appeals to the center. Agnosticsherbet Dec 2015 #4
Don't count out Jeb! just yet. world wide wally Dec 2015 #6
! hibbing Dec 2015 #10
Maybe even stupider (if that is possible) world wide wally Dec 2015 #13
If The Donald and Sleepy Eyes fade, and I am not sure they will in time... CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #8
Robert Lewis Dear Fozzledick Dec 2015 #9
God help us if its Carson 951-Riverside Dec 2015 #11
I think he is another Dubya Skittles Dec 2015 #12
Trump never expected or wanted to be in it this long BlueStreak Dec 2015 #14
As you say, they are all equally dangerous. Any "difference" is just personal style. phantom power Dec 2015 #17
I'm really hoping trump doesn't fizzle out soon Victor_c3 Dec 2015 #19
+1 I think he was promised a position in the Clinton admin flamingdem Dec 2015 #20

yuiyoshida

(41,832 posts)
1. I am hoping they will all
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 12:43 AM
Dec 2015

come to their senses, and admit the job is too hard, they are too lazy and none of them want to be President, really. No chance, but...one can wish for it.

 

840high

(17,196 posts)
2. Should Trump go down - expect Cruz to rise quickly. imo
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 12:46 AM
Dec 2015

I don't see Trump going doen unless the party screws him somehow.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
5. He's waning. I too expect Cruz to have his moment.
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 12:54 AM
Dec 2015

How long it will last, is yet to be determined.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
15. Not a lot of time left for "moments. First primaries are only 8 weeks off
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 10:44 AM
Dec 2015

and half of that time is lost to the Holidays. Basically nothing will happen in December. That gives us 4 weeks of January for people to have their "moments".

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
18. This time a brokered convention really does look like a possibility
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 10:56 AM
Dec 2015

I know it always looks that way before the first vote, but I just don't see anybody in this field that is going to rise to consensus. I think Trump's poll support is a mirage. I don't think he backs that up on the ground.

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
7. I expect tRump to go down one way or another....
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 01:12 AM
Dec 2015

even if he has to chop a hole in his own boat. The only part of running for president that he doesn't want is the part where he actually wins.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
3. Cruz seems to be the stealth "real" candidate...
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 12:48 AM
Dec 2015

he's been making moves on conservative Midwest churchgoers and getting traction on the way to Iowa.

I just don't know how we got to the point where Cruz is seen as a "sane" candidate.



Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
4. If he goes down, it will be the candidate that Republicans think appeals to the center.
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 12:50 AM
Dec 2015

They flirt with crazies, but they tend to vote for a corporate conservative who has some appeal to the political center.

I think Rubio has a better chance to get that than Cruz.

world wide wally

(21,744 posts)
6. Don't count out Jeb! just yet.
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 01:08 AM
Dec 2015

He has the money and the machine behind him and that usually does it.
Ability and character have nothing to do with it. If they did, they wouldn't even have one candidate.

hibbing

(10,098 posts)
10. !
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 01:49 AM
Dec 2015

If he just sticks to a script his handlers give him instead of going off on his own, that is when he gets in trouble because he's just as stupid as his brother.


Peace

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
8. If The Donald and Sleepy Eyes fade, and I am not sure they will in time...
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 01:23 AM
Dec 2015

Cruz (the anti-establishment insider) is the natural inheritor of their supporters.

The Year of the Anti-establishment Candidates

Fozzledick

(3,860 posts)
9. Robert Lewis Dear
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 01:34 AM
Dec 2015

He's shown a willingness to lead in taking action on the policies the other Republicans implicitly advocate but are afraid to take personal responsibility for, similar to the way Trump says out loud the things the others coyly imply but are afraid to state explicitly.

Plus he's a political outsider with no government experience who perfectly embodies the values of the current Republican party.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
14. Trump never expected or wanted to be in it this long
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 10:42 AM
Dec 2015

He's an attention whore. This is not a serious run for the Presidency. I doubt that he even has a substantial operation on the ground. But the rest of the field is so piss-poor that Trump just keeps leading. See
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016_republican_presidential_nomination-3823.html

The Party has a real problem. The only ones the Party would want to run are Bush, Walker, Kasich or Christie, and those guys are all dead in the water.I always assumed Bush would make a late move and take the nomination, but that doesn't look very likely now.

So they have a real mess on their hands. The only halfway sane one that is polling over 5% is Rubio and he is a real lightweight that could never win in the General. Rubio could be a VP on the ticket, but what kind of sense would Trump/Rubio or Carson/Rubio make?

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
19. I'm really hoping trump doesn't fizzle out soon
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 11:12 AM
Dec 2015

The longer he stays in the lead, the more damage he does to the entire Republican Party.

When he does fizzle, I hope he doesn't drop out entirely and goes the independent/3rd party route

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