I find the "comments" section on conservative sites to be an entertaining insight into

[pampango]

the way the far right thinks.

This is from a Brietbart article on why a Trump primary victory would be bad for the republican party.

I have a strange optimism that the time has come for Americans to be heard. Then again, that's why the Dems keep importing the rest of the world to vote here ... so American citizens get drowned out. Thats what worries me most. No liberal cares about immigrants - they care about votes. No establishment GOPer cares about immigrants - they care about cheap labor - but commit electoral suicide in the process.

Since the RNC New World Order neo-con establishment couldn't beat Trump by trying to make him look like a (pick any name they have thrown at him), they decided to throw in a shill ringer - enter Cruz, who now pretends to be strong on immigration. Until you actually read his immigration plan that leaves out exactly what he has supported in the past.

The control of the democratic party is a small progressive wing mostly in New York and Hollywood who gave big sums and control the media, the other democrats like you said are not happy with the way this country is going especially on trade, and border control.

Progressives care about votes. Liberals care about their pocketbook. Liberals if they can get past their personal greed and resentment will vote Republican this time because they can see the effects of open borders. I think this time liberals will see that the supply of labor does effect the demand and therefore their wages.. Although many will hold that the employers are all colluding together to keep wages low. HA! HA!

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/11/30/sununu-if-trump-is-the-nominee-the-gop-will-lose-senate-house-and-presidency/

Their fixation on 'open borders' and their belief that liberals only support immigration for partisan reasons is amazing.

"The control of the democratic party is a small progressive wing ...". Wish that it were true.

"the RNC New World Order neo-con establishment"

[ShrimpPoboy]

1. I've found that conservatives are about as clueless

at understanding liberals as liberals are at understanding conservatives.

Most interparty bickering, especially online, is just knocking down strawmen (like "open borders&quot .

[Freddie]

2. "Establishment GOP only cares about cheap labor"

Interesting to hear a "true conservative" actually admit this.
What they don't get is that wages will never go up as long as there's an oversupply of labor, which now seems eternal with automation and jobs going overseas. The Dem answer is to somehow force big business to pay more (unions, higher minimum wage) and be a little less greedy, and care for employees as much as shareholders. The R answer is no employee protections and a race to the bottom.

[pampango]

5. Their comments seem to focus on the effect of 'others' (immigration and trade) on wages, hence

their support for Trump's wall and tariffs. The fact that he also supports right-to-work and regressive taxes does not penetrate with them.

What they don't get is that wages will never go up as long as there's an oversupply of labor, which now seems eternal with automation and jobs going overseas.

They don't ever seem to mention automation but they have lots of complaints about globalization and the 'new world order'.

Of course, progressive countries have a much better record with wages than the US has so it may be possible to help the working class with the right policies.

[forsaken mortal]

3. Projection

Liberals care about their pocketbook. Liberals if they can get past their personal greed and resentment will vote Republican this time because they can see the effects of open borders.

Textbook psychological projection.

[ProfessorGAC]

4. I Was Thinking. . .

. . .that the piece you quoted might be the dumbest effort at intellectualizing i've ever seen.

You're right in that it's projection. But, it's really stupid first.