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smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 04:28 PM Dec 2015

'You Are A Fat, Ugly Human' Cards Handed To Women On Subway

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/dec/01/fat-shaming-cards-tube-overweight-haters-ltd-police


Transport for London and British Transport police have urged commuters to come forward if they have received so-called fat-shaming postcards on the tube. Images of the leaflet, claiming to be from a group called Overweight Haters Ltd, have now been shared thousands of times on social media, with many speculating it could be a poorly judged publicity stunt.

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Kara Florish, 30, from Southend-on-Sea, shared on social media a picture of a card given to her by a stranger as she travelled on the tube that said: “It’s really not glandular, it’s your gluttony.”

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Though many on social media have pointed to the site as being behind Overweight Haters Ltd, it is unclear whether the Slimgur posts are from the cards’ organiser. The only images posted on the site are those circulated by Florish on Twitter and Facebook.

On Facebook and Twitter, Florish wrote: “I was handed this card this morning on the underground and I would appreciate if people tweeted, posted etc all over the internet. “I am not upset myself. I am smaller than the national average and not exactly obese, but this is hateful and cowardly and could potentially upset people struggling with confidence and eating disorders. Please tweet and share this if you are also outraged. Plus – to the person who wrote this card, go back to school, you can’t spell ‘beautiful’.”

She said the man was middle-aged and white, and placed the card on her lap as he got off the carriage.

Another commuter, Sean Thomas Knox, described a similar incident on his Twitter account, though giving a different description of the man involved. “Young man just got on train at Oxford Circus, gave printed card saying YOU’RE FAT to overweight girl. He jumped off. She read it, [and] cried.

“Am 99.9% sure this wasn’t staged. She didn’t even realise I was watching at first. Her stunned, desolate reaction was very real. Then tears.” Knox described the man who handed over the card as a “hipster.. smartly, trendily dressed” with a beard. “Perhaps it was a piece of conceptual art,” he tweeted

“It lasted a few seconds, but the card in that photo [Florish’s] is the same card I saw, in the girl’s hand. And her shock was real.”


What prompts people to be so cruel and hateful? Don't they think that overweight people already feel bad enough without having to pile on? These people are cowardly and disgusting whoever they are.
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'You Are A Fat, Ugly Human' Cards Handed To Women On Subway (Original Post) smirkymonkey Dec 2015 OP
There are people who leftynyc Dec 2015 #1
I can't wait until they pull this on somebody with a bad temper and mean right hook! smirkymonkey Dec 2015 #6
Are you willing to condone violence against speech dumbcat Dec 2015 #14
Good troll well played. REP Dec 2015 #15
Yes, I am willing to condone violence against these assholes Downtown Hound Dec 2015 #20
I also condone violence dumbcat Dec 2015 #21
LOL! Downtown Hound Dec 2015 #24
I feel the same way about dumbcat Dec 2015 #25
What? Are you going to go cry and feel bad about yourself because somebody Downtown Hound Dec 2015 #28
Thank you dumbcat Dec 2015 #30
Overly simplistic garbage. Downtown Hound Dec 2015 #35
Beautiful rationalization dumbcat Dec 2015 #37
Glad I could help. n/t Downtown Hound Dec 2015 #38
+1000 smirkymonkey Dec 2015 #39
Unfortunately you friend probably still thinks about this encounter form time to time. Cruel ass canosoviejo Dec 2015 #29
Fat people should have a safe space somewhere dumbcat Dec 2015 #33
I know for a fact that she does. n/t Downtown Hound Dec 2015 #36
A large can of red spray paint comes to mind. BlueJazz Dec 2015 #2
I know, what is the point of being cruel for the sake of it? smirkymonkey Dec 2015 #8
wasp spray is accurate to 10 meters elehhhhna Dec 2015 #27
Wasp spray in an enclosed space like a subway car? Reckless. LiberalElite Dec 2015 #44
Sounds like they don't have the nerve to stick around for a conversation... TipTok Dec 2015 #3
That's my impression from the story gratuitous Dec 2015 #13
Oh, but they're being "truthful, and edgy, and all that shit". Cowardly bullies. haele Dec 2015 #4
I know, I think that's what disgusts me more than anything. smirkymonkey Dec 2015 #11
I'm stunned Capt. Obvious Dec 2015 #5
Hand them a card that says "I can diet but you will ALWAYS be an asshole" hobbit709 Dec 2015 #7
The world is too full of hateful bastards nt MrScorpio Dec 2015 #9
I'd be a right b*tch to anyone I saw doing that. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #10
Something does not smell right with this story. Glassunion Dec 2015 #12
I bet it's some viral marketing campaign taught_me_patience Dec 2015 #16
FUcking fucking fucking fucking fucking assholes deluxe! Rex Dec 2015 #17
So why are they fearless in this society? hunter Dec 2015 #18
Same reason homophobes think they can beat LGBT people or racists think they can beat minorities. jeff47 Dec 2015 #19
Yep. hunter Dec 2015 #31
No shit! They are cruising for a bruising. Rex Dec 2015 #45
Something tells me they wouldnt have the balls to do that on US public transportation. Warren DeMontague Dec 2015 #22
I would love to see them try to pull that crap in NYC. smirkymonkey Dec 2015 #40
Statistically, I think Americans are way more likely to be armed, too. Warren DeMontague Dec 2015 #41
Pls. see my post #43 LiberalElite Dec 2015 #48
Chicken shit asshole jumps off the car at the last minute. lpbk2713 Dec 2015 #23
Not just a loser. Conch Dec 2015 #34
id mace the fuck outta that guy elehhhhna Dec 2015 #26
That is what mace is for imo. Rex Dec 2015 #46
Just women? Iggo Dec 2015 #32
I think we can all agree as to where the "ugly" really is. WinkyDink Dec 2015 #42
NOBODY on the NYC Subway better LiberalElite Dec 2015 #43
I would love to see them pull that in New York. smirkymonkey Dec 2015 #47
 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
6. I can't wait until they pull this on somebody with a bad temper and mean right hook!
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 04:41 PM
Dec 2015

I would love to see one of these little cowards flattened right in front of an audience full of tube riders.

dumbcat

(2,120 posts)
14. Are you willing to condone violence against speech
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 04:52 PM
Dec 2015

in all cases, or only when you deem it appropriate?

If right wingers do that too, is it OK with you?

dumbcat

(2,120 posts)
21. I also condone violence
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 05:47 PM
Dec 2015

against assholes. I just wondered how many others agree. I may want to bring it up again. Thanks!

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
24. LOL!
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 05:58 PM
Dec 2015

For a minute there I thought this was going to be quite the flame war.

But on a more serious note, there is someone very close to me who is overweight, and one time when I was out walking with her a car drove by and some asshole leaned out the window and shouted, "FAT F#$&!" to her. I couldn't believe it. She is the sweetest, kindest, most creative, hard-working person I know. Suffice it to say, by the time we got home she was totally in tears. And the incident bothered her for a long time afterwards.

I don't care if I'm right or wrong, on the side of the law or against it, or whether or not God will judge me harshly for it, if I ever caught the asshole who said that, oh yeah, one of us is going home with bruises, and I will do everything in my power to make sure it's not me.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
28. What? Are you going to go cry and feel bad about yourself because somebody
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 06:11 PM
Dec 2015

made fun of you for stockpiling weapons of death and contributing to the mass epidemic of gun violence in America? Sorry, I don't view that as being in the same category. So no, it's not okay.

Too bad.

dumbcat

(2,120 posts)
30. Thank you
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 06:14 PM
Dec 2015

That's what I thought you meant.

We are all for condoning violence in retaliation for speech we don't like. But not so much for speech others don't like.

It's OK, really. I totally understand.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
35. Overly simplistic garbage.
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 06:22 PM
Dec 2015

There are different kinds of speech. Speech that is designed solely to hurt those who society has deemed undesirable in one way or another is not the same thing as getting a little heated when attacking those on the other side of the political fence as you, especially when that other side is heavily armed. In the case you mention, it's literally the difference between attacking the helpless and defenseless and attacking the heavily armed.

Now as I said before, go cry to somebody who gives a shit.

canosoviejo

(15 posts)
29. Unfortunately you friend probably still thinks about this encounter form time to time. Cruel ass
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 06:13 PM
Dec 2015

people have no idea how they can hurt someone for a very long time. All we can really hope for is Karma or whatever you believe in will catch up to them. I feel sorry your friend had to go through this.

dumbcat

(2,120 posts)
33. Fat people should have a safe space somewhere
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 06:17 PM
Dec 2015

where they can be protected from such aggression. I'd like to find that place myself, being very overweight and diabetic.

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
2. A large can of red spray paint comes to mind.
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 04:34 PM
Dec 2015

No..not really but this is just a horrible thing to do to someone that is fighting a weight gain.

Read my Signature line. It applies.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
8. I know, what is the point of being cruel for the sake of it?
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 04:42 PM
Dec 2015

You have no idea how vulnerable and fragile someone might be. It's sick.

 

TipTok

(2,474 posts)
3. Sounds like they don't have the nerve to stick around for a conversation...
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 04:40 PM
Dec 2015

... and drop their cards as they exit.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
13. That's my impression from the story
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 04:51 PM
Dec 2015

It's classic flame-and-fade trollery. Drop their little stink bomb then skedaddle like the craven little fucks they are.

Just one time, you hope there's a door malfunction on the train, and they get held up for a few seconds while their victim figures out what they just did and lets the rest of the car know.

haele

(12,660 posts)
4. Oh, but they're being "truthful, and edgy, and all that shit". Cowardly bullies.
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 04:40 PM
Dec 2015

Compensating for their shortcomings and failures by anonymously shitting on people they don't know and hadn't done them any harm - then running away before they can actually see the damage they're doing - or get the shit beat out of them once a bystander realizes they're indulging in drive-by sucker punches.

Yeah, it takes a real strong, intelligent, brave person to drop a hurtful card in a stranger's lap as they're running away.

Haele

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
11. I know, I think that's what disgusts me more than anything.
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 04:45 PM
Dec 2015

It's just a hit and run. They don't even stick around for the fall out, they just run away like the rotten, cowardly little candy-asses that they are. I really hope someone catches them before they can flee next times and gives them a good pummeling.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
10. I'd be a right b*tch to anyone I saw doing that.
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 04:43 PM
Dec 2015

I'm not likely to get one of those cards: I'm scrawny (the body shaming I get instead involves "eat a sammich" and "no tits" asshattery). But I'd have a fair bit to say to someone I saw handing out a card like that to anyone. That's purest douchebaggery.

 

taught_me_patience

(5,477 posts)
16. I bet it's some viral marketing campaign
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 04:55 PM
Dec 2015

if not, these guys are pure cowards. I wouldn't shed a tear if they got their ass beaten.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
17. FUcking fucking fucking fucking fucking assholes deluxe!
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 04:58 PM
Dec 2015

You must live a miserable and pathetic life if you have to troll people in REAL LIFE. All these good people should realize that no matter what that card said, the person that gave it to them lives a horrible existence dominated by hate and fear.

Poor lady...this kind of stuff raises my blood pressure.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
19. Same reason homophobes think they can beat LGBT people or racists think they can beat minorities.
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 05:11 PM
Dec 2015

If you're in the "in" group, you can generally abuse an "out" group without much danger.

hunter

(38,317 posts)
31. Yep.
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 06:15 PM
Dec 2015

I've never enjoyed an "in" group. I tend to be autistic spectrum loner, except when I'm not.

In middle and high school the "in" group were calling me queerbait.

So I quit high school.

I can't forget that. There are a few I could never forgive. Some others are dead to me, many actually dead.

The rest are funny stories.

There was this kid who frequently tormented me in middle and high school; he'd spit on my bicycle seat, a bicycle I still ride, a bicycle my dad bought in the 'seventies, and worse a kid who had beaten me bloody a few times.

Just one more reason to quit high school, so I did.

By perverse random chance I met him a few years later and he was the boy-toy-slave of an affluent Hollywood cougar. Imagine your worst. One great awesome day of my life, we both pretended not to know one another.

He was a toy in a cage, I was not.










lpbk2713

(42,759 posts)
23. Chicken shit asshole jumps off the car at the last minute.
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 05:56 PM
Dec 2015



He waits and then drops it in the recipient's lap so there is a delay before they read it. By that time he's out the door. One of these days I hope his reactions are just a bit slow, or he trips or the crowd is in his way and he doesn't make it to the door on time. At that time I hope kharma takes over.

They say beauty is only skin deep, but stupid goes right to the bone as is this loser's case.

Conch

(80 posts)
34. Not just a loser.
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 06:20 PM
Dec 2015

A coward. If you have something inflammatory to say, at least have the pride to stand with your opinion. The drop-and-run thing? I hope a friend or neighbor finds out who it is and lets it be known so that he can receive the treatment he so richly deserves.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
43. NOBODY on the NYC Subway better
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 09:43 PM
Dec 2015

get any ideas about copycat cards. It will get real ugly real fast. Hipsters are doing this? How would they like to get a card saying "get out of town gentrifiying parasite"???

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
47. I would love to see them pull that in New York.
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 09:50 PM
Dec 2015

They would get their little hipster asses handed back to them so swiftly they wouldn't know what the hell hit them.

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