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http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/dec/01/fat-shaming-cards-tube-overweight-haters-ltd-policeTransport for London and British Transport police have urged commuters to come forward if they have received so-called fat-shaming postcards on the tube. Images of the leaflet, claiming to be from a group called Overweight Haters Ltd, have now been shared thousands of times on social media, with many speculating it could be a poorly judged publicity stunt.
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Kara Florish, 30, from Southend-on-Sea, shared on social media a picture of a card given to her by a stranger as she travelled on the tube that said: Its really not glandular, its your gluttony.
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Though many on social media have pointed to the site as being behind Overweight Haters Ltd, it is unclear whether the Slimgur posts are from the cards organiser. The only images posted on the site are those circulated by Florish on Twitter and Facebook.
On Facebook and Twitter, Florish wrote: I was handed this card this morning on the underground and I would appreciate if people tweeted, posted etc all over the internet. I am not upset myself. I am smaller than the national average and not exactly obese, but this is hateful and cowardly and could potentially upset people struggling with confidence and eating disorders. Please tweet and share this if you are also outraged. Plus to the person who wrote this card, go back to school, you cant spell beautiful.
She said the man was middle-aged and white, and placed the card on her lap as he got off the carriage.
Another commuter, Sean Thomas Knox, described a similar incident on his Twitter account, though giving a different description of the man involved. Young man just got on train at Oxford Circus, gave printed card saying YOURE FAT to overweight girl. He jumped off. She read it, [and] cried.
Am 99.9% sure this wasnt staged. She didnt even realise I was watching at first. Her stunned, desolate reaction was very real. Then tears. Knox described the man who handed over the card as a hipster.. smartly, trendily dressed with a beard. Perhaps it was a piece of conceptual art, he tweeted
It lasted a few seconds, but the card in that photo [Florishs] is the same card I saw, in the girls hand. And her shock was real.
What prompts people to be so cruel and hateful? Don't they think that overweight people already feel bad enough without having to pile on? These people are cowardly and disgusting whoever they are.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)are seriously looking for an ass kicking. I wont cry when they get it.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I would love to see one of these little cowards flattened right in front of an audience full of tube riders.
dumbcat
(2,120 posts)in all cases, or only when you deem it appropriate?
If right wingers do that too, is it OK with you?
REP
(21,691 posts)Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)Now go cry to somebody who gives a shit.
dumbcat
(2,120 posts)against assholes. I just wondered how many others agree. I may want to bring it up again. Thanks!
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)For a minute there I thought this was going to be quite the flame war.
But on a more serious note, there is someone very close to me who is overweight, and one time when I was out walking with her a car drove by and some asshole leaned out the window and shouted, "FAT F#$&!" to her. I couldn't believe it. She is the sweetest, kindest, most creative, hard-working person I know. Suffice it to say, by the time we got home she was totally in tears. And the incident bothered her for a long time afterwards.
I don't care if I'm right or wrong, on the side of the law or against it, or whether or not God will judge me harshly for it, if I ever caught the asshole who said that, oh yeah, one of us is going home with bruises, and I will do everything in my power to make sure it's not me.
dumbcat
(2,120 posts)assholes that call other people gunhumpers and ammosexuals. Is that OK?
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)made fun of you for stockpiling weapons of death and contributing to the mass epidemic of gun violence in America? Sorry, I don't view that as being in the same category. So no, it's not okay.
Too bad.
dumbcat
(2,120 posts)That's what I thought you meant.
We are all for condoning violence in retaliation for speech we don't like. But not so much for speech others don't like.
It's OK, really. I totally understand.
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)There are different kinds of speech. Speech that is designed solely to hurt those who society has deemed undesirable in one way or another is not the same thing as getting a little heated when attacking those on the other side of the political fence as you, especially when that other side is heavily armed. In the case you mention, it's literally the difference between attacking the helpless and defenseless and attacking the heavily armed.
Now as I said before, go cry to somebody who gives a shit.
dumbcat
(2,120 posts)One can learn so much here. Thanks again.
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)canosoviejo
(15 posts)people have no idea how they can hurt someone for a very long time. All we can really hope for is Karma or whatever you believe in will catch up to them. I feel sorry your friend had to go through this.
dumbcat
(2,120 posts)where they can be protected from such aggression. I'd like to find that place myself, being very overweight and diabetic.
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)No..not really but this is just a horrible thing to do to someone that is fighting a weight gain.
Read my Signature line. It applies.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)You have no idea how vulnerable and fragile someone might be. It's sick.
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)Just saying
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)Just saying.
TipTok
(2,474 posts)... and drop their cards as they exit.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)It's classic flame-and-fade trollery. Drop their little stink bomb then skedaddle like the craven little fucks they are.
Just one time, you hope there's a door malfunction on the train, and they get held up for a few seconds while their victim figures out what they just did and lets the rest of the car know.
haele
(12,660 posts)Compensating for their shortcomings and failures by anonymously shitting on people they don't know and hadn't done them any harm - then running away before they can actually see the damage they're doing - or get the shit beat out of them once a bystander realizes they're indulging in drive-by sucker punches.
Yeah, it takes a real strong, intelligent, brave person to drop a hurtful card in a stranger's lap as they're running away.
Haele
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)It's just a hit and run. They don't even stick around for the fall out, they just run away like the rotten, cowardly little candy-asses that they are. I really hope someone catches them before they can flee next times and gives them a good pummeling.
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)anyone on the train actually read a pamphlet.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)I'm not likely to get one of those cards: I'm scrawny (the body shaming I get instead involves "eat a sammich" and "no tits" asshattery). But I'd have a fair bit to say to someone I saw handing out a card like that to anyone. That's purest douchebaggery.
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)taught_me_patience
(5,477 posts)if not, these guys are pure cowards. I wouldn't shed a tear if they got their ass beaten.
Rex
(65,616 posts)You must live a miserable and pathetic life if you have to troll people in REAL LIFE. All these good people should realize that no matter what that card said, the person that gave it to them lives a horrible existence dominated by hate and fear.
Poor lady...this kind of stuff raises my blood pressure.
hunter
(38,317 posts)They deserve serious bruising.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)If you're in the "in" group, you can generally abuse an "out" group without much danger.
I've never enjoyed an "in" group. I tend to be autistic spectrum loner, except when I'm not.
In middle and high school the "in" group were calling me queerbait.
So I quit high school.
I can't forget that. There are a few I could never forgive. Some others are dead to me, many actually dead.
The rest are funny stories.
There was this kid who frequently tormented me in middle and high school; he'd spit on my bicycle seat, a bicycle I still ride, a bicycle my dad bought in the 'seventies, and worse a kid who had beaten me bloody a few times.
Just one more reason to quit high school, so I did.
By perverse random chance I met him a few years later and he was the boy-toy-slave of an affluent Hollywood cougar. Imagine your worst. One great awesome day of my life, we both pretended not to know one another.
He was a toy in a cage, I was not.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Fools.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Just a hunch
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)They'd never get out of the subway alive.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)I mean, make of that what you will.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)lpbk2713
(42,759 posts)He waits and then drops it in the recipient's lap so there is a delay before they read it. By that time he's out the door. One of these days I hope his reactions are just a bit slow, or he trips or the crowd is in his way and he doesn't make it to the door on time. At that time I hope kharma takes over.
They say beauty is only skin deep, but stupid goes right to the bone as is this loser's case.
Conch
(80 posts)A coward. If you have something inflammatory to say, at least have the pride to stand with your opinion. The drop-and-run thing? I hope a friend or neighbor finds out who it is and lets it be known so that he can receive the treatment he so richly deserves.
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)Seriously. Mace the fuck out.
Rex
(65,616 posts)And right in the face too. Cowardly fucks.
Iggo
(47,558 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)get any ideas about copycat cards. It will get real ugly real fast. Hipsters are doing this? How would they like to get a card saying "get out of town gentrifiying parasite"???
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)They would get their little hipster asses handed back to them so swiftly they wouldn't know what the hell hit them.