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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOfficer who killed Tamir Rice says he believed 12-year-old was in fact 18
Source: The Guardian
Officer who killed Tamir Rice says he believed 12-year-old was in fact 18
In his first public account of the shooting, Timothy Loehmann told grand jurors
he thought he was facing an active shooter situation
Oliver Laughland and Jon Swaine in New York
Tuesday 1 December 2015 23.28 GMT
The officer who shot and killed 12-year-old Tamir Rice in Ohio has delivered his first public account of the killing, over a year after the incident occurred, arguing his actions were justified as he was engaged in an active shooter situation and believed Tamir was 18 years old.
Cleveland police officer Timothy Loehmann told grand jurors he shot because Tamir pulled a gun which turned out to be a pellet gun from his waistband. The suspect had a gun, had been threatening others with the weapon and had not obeyed our command to show us his hands, he said.
Loehmann fatally shot Tamir, who was black, within two seconds of arriving at a local park on 22 November last year, after a 911 caller reported that there was a juvenile in the area with a weapon that was probably fake. The full details of the call were not passed on to the officers, according to other accounts released by Cuyahoga County prosecutor Timothy McGinty.
A Cuyahoga County grand jury is currently considering whether to bring charges against Loehmann, 27, and his partner, 47-year-old Frank Garmback, both of whom are white. Garmback was the driver of the patrol car on the day of the shooting.
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In his first public account of the shooting, Timothy Loehmann told grand jurors
he thought he was facing an active shooter situation
Oliver Laughland and Jon Swaine in New York
Tuesday 1 December 2015 23.28 GMT
The officer who shot and killed 12-year-old Tamir Rice in Ohio has delivered his first public account of the killing, over a year after the incident occurred, arguing his actions were justified as he was engaged in an active shooter situation and believed Tamir was 18 years old.
Cleveland police officer Timothy Loehmann told grand jurors he shot because Tamir pulled a gun which turned out to be a pellet gun from his waistband. The suspect had a gun, had been threatening others with the weapon and had not obeyed our command to show us his hands, he said.
Loehmann fatally shot Tamir, who was black, within two seconds of arriving at a local park on 22 November last year, after a 911 caller reported that there was a juvenile in the area with a weapon that was probably fake. The full details of the call were not passed on to the officers, according to other accounts released by Cuyahoga County prosecutor Timothy McGinty.
A Cuyahoga County grand jury is currently considering whether to bring charges against Loehmann, 27, and his partner, 47-year-old Frank Garmback, both of whom are white. Garmback was the driver of the patrol car on the day of the shooting.
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Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/01/tamir-rice-shooting-cleveland-police-timothy-loehmann-grand-jury
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Officer who killed Tamir Rice says he believed 12-year-old was in fact 18 (Original Post)
Eugene
Dec 2015
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Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)1. They gave no time to show his hands
What a piece of shit. So I guess the shooting would have been fine had Tamir been 18.
marble falls
(57,204 posts)2. They didn't even have the time to even tell him to put his hands up.
Rex
(65,616 posts)5. I guess the idiot is forgetting it is all on video camera.
And his racist dogwhistle is BS.
Rex
(65,616 posts)3. I see, so that makes it all right.
Cause all POC are ageless ie very hard to tell the age. Gee, where have I heard that one from before? I don't believe him.
LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)4. A study a while back found that white people routinely overestimate black kids' ages by 4-6 yrs
starting from around age eight.
Then, of course, they judge the kids badly for behaving in ways that are entirely appropriate to their actual ages. This is a particularly egregious example, but it's a systemic problem that effects the ways black kids are treated in the educational system as well as by police.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)6. heck, even 3 yos aren't allowed to be seen as kids at all
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/03/cops-tend-to-see-black-kids-as-less-innocent-than-white-kids/383247/
http://newsone.com/2962437/american-psychological-association-black-boys/
http://www.salon.com/2014/03/11/study_police_see_black_children_as_less_innocent_and_less_young_than_white_children/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/in-america-black-children-dont-get-to-be-children/2014/11/26/a9e24756-74ee-11e4-a755-e32227229e7b_story.html
http://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2014/03/black-boys-older.aspx
http://newsone.com/2962437/american-psychological-association-black-boys/
http://www.salon.com/2014/03/11/study_police_see_black_children_as_less_innocent_and_less_young_than_white_children/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/in-america-black-children-dont-get-to-be-children/2014/11/26/a9e24756-74ee-11e4-a755-e32227229e7b_story.html
http://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2014/03/black-boys-older.aspx