Zombie Attack: Officials misleading the public, saying it's LSD related when it's not

[garybeck]

I'm sure you've seen the stories about the Zombie attack, where a crazy guy bit the face off another guy.

Today the reports took a twist where they keep trying to say he was on a drug that is "the new LSD."

just one example from CNN

A naked man who chewed off the face of another man in what is being called a zombie-like attack may have been under the influence of "bath salts," a drug referred to as the new LSD, according to reports from CNN affiliates in Miami.
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/05/29/reports-miami-zombie-attacker-may-have-been-using-bath-salts/?hpt=hp_t2

Just google "zombie attack LSD" and you'll get tons of articles inferring the guy was on a new form of LSD.

These reports are nothing but an effort to make people think LSD makes you want to kill people or jump out windows.

Yesterday the reports never even mentioned what the drug was, it just said it's a new form of LSD.

Today they say the person was on "bath salts" and they list the components as being amphetimines.

"Doctors and clinicians at U.S. poison centers have indicated that ingesting or snorting 'bath salts' containing synthetic stimulants can cause chest pains, increased blood pressure, increased heart rate, agitation, hallucinations, extreme paranoia, and delusions," according to the NIDA report.

In October, the Drug Enforcement Administration made possession of the stimulants in bath salts, Mephedrone, 3,4 methylenedioxypyrovalerone (MDPV) and Methylone, illegal under an emergency order. The order lasts for a year with a possible six-month extension.

But they still refer to it as "the new LSD."

Let's be clear. LSD is not an amphetimine. LSD does not produce any of those effects. LSD does not make you want to bite someone's face off. In fact, in the vast majority of cases, it makes you more peaceful, happy, and insightful.

LSD and bath salts are not related in any way.

This is either an honest / stupid mistake, or an intentional effort to mischaracterize LSD and make people think it induces violence when it does not.

[librechik]

1. Thank You. n/t

[Politicalboi]

2. Maybe he was a Rmoney supporter

And they meant to say LDS, but mixed it up and said LSD.

[Woody Woodpecker]

3. It could be angel dust

otherwise known as PCP.

I understand PCP effects are similar to what the naked zombie-like man had.

[garybeck]

4. yes and LSD and PCP are not related in any way.

sometimes I think they do this stuff on purpose because LSD actually opens people's minds and it shows them how messed up the world is and it makes you want to do something about it, in a positive way. the powers to be just want to keep everyone in line, keep things the way they are, and close people's minds, status quo.

[felix_numinous]

13. +1000!

Thanks--this seems to be one giant purpose of the drug war IMHO, besides profits. To link all substances together, meth (or PCP) and LSD, cocaine with pot--they create associations where there are none. Authoritative types follow suit and the sheeple mentality is maintained....Ba-aa-aa-aa-aah!

[tclambert]

23. They are too related! They're both illegal hippie drugs.

First, the hippies smoke marijuana, then they do heroin, PCP, and LSD. Then they go crazy and jump off buildings trying to fly, or they eat each others' faces off.

It's scientifically proven. I saw it in a filmstrip in school. (Oh, no, did I say "filmstrip?" I meant video. Damn, I'm old.)

[hifiguy]

14. PCP will mess your shit up.

I did it once back in about 1975. Once was more than enough and never, ever again. Though I didn't get violent. LSD never made me anything but dreamy and giggly.

[Mnemosyne]

17. 1976, did it one time, spent three days crawling on the floor, believing world was my alter ego and

not in any fun way. It was horrifying then, and in remembering.

It was sold to me as mescaline.

[EOTE]

29. For future reference...

Pure mescaline is active at ~250mgs (and a low dose like that can be an incredibly nice way to spend 8 hours or so). 250mgs would be almost an entire large 0 size pill. A large dose of PCP is ~10mgs which would only fill around 5% of larger pills like that. Being familiar with dose ranges and having a mg scale are really handy if you're gonna take pills of somewhat unknown origin. This from someone who has had a fair share of somewhat shaky trips . Glad you made it through OK.

[Mnemosyne]

34. Thanks EOTE, but got much wiser immediately after that.

Scared the hell out of me and stuck to weed only ever after.

[Romulox]

28. PCP is a "dissociative" drug, while LSD is a euphoric hallucinogen/stimulant.

That's a huge difference.

[morningfog]

5. I knew the headline was bullshit the moment I read it.

I had no interest in the story, so I didn't read further. Thanks for confirming what I suspected, LSD has not been implicated in any way.

[Quixote1818]

6. Here is some background on "Bath Salts"

http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/features/bath-salts-drug-dangers

[Archae]

7. "Stay away from the brown acid..."

See what it did to Jefferson Airplane?

[progressoid]

12. Damn you.

I didn't even click on the play button and I have that ear worm in my head.

[OffWithTheirHeads]

8. Well Goddamnit, they are putting SOMETHING in the water!

How else can you possibly explain teabaggers?

[KurtNYC]

9. "When bath salts go Bad!"

He was just trying to exfoliate that guy's face and the fruit acid peel wasn't getting it done...

[drokhole]

10. Well put. nt

[Egalitarian Thug]

11. K&R. n/t

[Robb]

15. The new LSD is EMCVMPTC.

Instead of a limited slip differential, many are switching to electronically managed continuously variable multi-plate transfer clutches.

...Take THAT, zombies.

[Hugabear]

16. My money is on Marijuana. I've seen the documentary "Reefer Madness".

I know all about how Marijuana can turn individuals into raving psychotics.

WARN YOUR CHILDREN.

[Mnemosyne]

18. I'm betting on it too! Saw that film!

Seriously, if that guy smoked a doob in the last month, you know it will get press and implied blame.

[Martin Eden]

24. I saw "Reefer Madness" as a double feature with "Groove Tube" in 1974

Yeah, I was high

[KamaAina]

19. The story I saw mentioned "a new, extra-powerful form of LSD"

BS, as well as even sloppier than usual science reporting. LSD is LSD. If there were a way to make it "extra-powerful", you can bet that Owsley or Tim Leary or someone would have figured it out back in the day.

[EOTE]

26. LSD is already extra-powerful :)

It's active at a few micrograms. 100 micrograms is a fairly strong dose for most peopple. I believe that MDPV is active at around 10mgs or so, so LSD is about 100x more potent by weight. Only, I've seen people take massive doses of LSD (at around the 1mg range) and they've never considered munching someone's face off, usually they're more preoccupied listening to their hands.

This horrific event has given way to some insanely sloppy reporting. Because the difference between LSD-25 and MDPV isn't how strong they are, but they have completely different effects. But they need to scare people and what better way to do that than by comparing it to a drug that's already been demonized (but still could stand to be demonized further).

[Tiggeroshii]

20. So... it was an actual zombie?

=P

[Sea-Dog]

21. it was excited delirium

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3088378/

[Rod Mollise]

22. And...

So it begins.

[Romulox]

25. Only one solution to this "bath salts" problem: Crack down on Medical marijuana!

[Ruby the Liberal]

27. They are playing to the lowest denominator.

A chunk of this country will be like WTF if you say "bath salts" unless an incident has been in their local news.

They are calling it the "new LSD" for the % of the population who aren't paying attention and get their news from bumper stickers.

[Romulox]

30. Oh, and the gov't is *powerless* to regulate this crap, but perfectly capable

of checking your ashtrays, your urine, your hair for traces of THC. Hell, the government can even comitt itself to "eradicate" naturally occurring plants in far away lands.

But items sold at gas stations? The government is simply powerless to control it!

[Archae]

31. It's pretty much confirmed now, it was those "bath salts."

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012/05/30/153989768/bath-salts-drug-suspected-in-miami-face-eating-attack

The Internet is circulating a photo of the chewing victim.

I'm not going to even describe it.

[Marrah_G]

33. I saw the picture...........

It was worse then any horror film.......i hope the man mercifully passed out at some point.

To those who haven't seen it.... this went WAYYYY passed a few bite marks.

This would make George Romero cringe.

[cecilfirefox]

32. I tell everyone, if it doesn't grow out of the ground its not going in me. Thx but no thx!