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onecent

(6,096 posts)
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 08:56 PM Dec 2015

I'm am spending the night at my friend's sister's house SUNDAY EVE and she is an Obama hater, and I

am going to need some ammunition to help me if she starts on her rants about what Obama HAS NOT DONE.

Now I KNOW he has done a lot of good things while in office, would someone be so kind as to post a few things for me to be able to back myself up. i wish I didn't have to go, she is even nastier about hiliary, and I get so SICK OF IT.

Every morning when she wakes up she yells to her husband, "Well Jon has ANYBODY ASSASSINATED HILIARY YET?" I MAY have to just leave and sit in the car until my friend is ready to go...I can't handle this shit any longer. She is also super religious which I ONE DAY WILL point out to her.."christans are not suppose to act like that"...I am not particularly a bible person and don't plan to change for her....

If you have time, it would certainly be appreciated. I am a senior citizen, and my thoughts don't all pull together quite as
quickly as they use too, but I would LOVE TO BE ABLE TO BOMB HER WITH 5 OR 6 GOOD THINGS....but having a cheat sheet by my side would certainly made me feel alot better!!

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL!!!!

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I'm am spending the night at my friend's sister's house SUNDAY EVE and she is an Obama hater, and I (Original Post) onecent Dec 2015 OP
You are gonna be up all night telling your friend about his accomplishments randys1 Dec 2015 #1
How about this? vt_native Dec 2015 #2
Make Sure to Tell Her Obama Has a +1 Approval Rating 48-47 (Gallup-December 5) Stallion Dec 2015 #3
Particularly when compared to George W Bush's numbers gratuitous Dec 2015 #23
As one senior citizen to another, I suggest, very seriously, that Divernan Dec 2015 #4
You want them to pop a cork, agree with everything they say. LiberalArkie Dec 2015 #5
Oh! Wait! Show Us a Picture of the Friend's Sister and Then We'll Answer Stallion Dec 2015 #7
It's impolite to engage in political discussions with house guests of a different political bent Gormy Cuss Dec 2015 #6
Why put yourself through that? demmiblue Dec 2015 #8
I don't associate with relatives or anyone like that. Manifestor_of_Light Dec 2015 #9
This is a no-win situation Boomer Dec 2015 #10
You are looking at this wrong. Snobblevitch Dec 2015 #11
+100 peace13 Dec 2015 #27
Avoid talking politics with stupid assholes. tabasco Dec 2015 #12
I moved in with my father in October to keep him safe. roody Dec 2015 #13
Just get sick or dizzy and either stay home or if forced to go get sick or dizzy or a bad headache Person 2713 Dec 2015 #14
Only solution is not to talk about politics. Nye Bevan Dec 2015 #15
people like her are too stupid to debate with Skittles Dec 2015 #16
I have one MFrohike Dec 2015 #17
Thanks everyone, I did get lots of ideas... onecent Dec 2015 #18
Aren't manners just as important as "ideas"? Boomer Dec 2015 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author onecent Dec 2015 #24
If you were a true conservative - edgineered Dec 2015 #19
You know I hate to say this...but I HAVE NOT A CLUE WHAT YOU JUST SAID. I DON'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE onecent Dec 2015 #20
I see what happened here - edgineered Dec 2015 #21
sorry if I misinterpreted....having a bad december.... onecent Dec 2015 #25
Yeah, getting this human nature thing down gives me fits edgineered Dec 2015 #28
don't go Facility Inspector Dec 2015 #26

Stallion

(6,476 posts)
3. Make Sure to Tell Her Obama Has a +1 Approval Rating 48-47 (Gallup-December 5)
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 09:06 PM
Dec 2015

that always sets them off

I'm sure you'll be the only one she knows who likes Obama so this always comes as a great shock. I love it

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
23. Particularly when compared to George W Bush's numbers
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 10:09 PM
Dec 2015

At this point in his administration, Bush was something like 30 points underwater.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
4. As one senior citizen to another, I suggest, very seriously, that
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 09:07 PM
Dec 2015

you save yourself the stress of dealing with this person. Bad enough when you're stuck at a meal with someone like that, but stuck in their house overnight? If she goes on political rants with any house guests she does not know to agree with her, she's a crap hostess.

Come up with some last minute illness/family obligation/whatever. Don't enable this horrid person to bully you. Just don't go there.

A bit off topic but her morning shoutouts as to whether anyone has assassinated HRC yet is a strong example of the level of hatred for HRC that is out there salivating to storm the polls and vote against her in a general election.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
6. It's impolite to engage in political discussions with house guests of a different political bent
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 09:13 PM
Dec 2015

and it's even more impolite to engage hosts. If you have to stay there, avoid her as much as you can without being obvious and just keep your face neutral when you're trapped near her during a rant.

Trying to counterpoint someone like that will only escalate the rant.

demmiblue

(36,899 posts)
8. Why put yourself through that?
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 09:22 PM
Dec 2015

I wpuld never impose my political beliefs on a house guest in such a manner.

My advice: don't go, change the subject, or wear earplugs.

Also, how do you know what she yells every morning? Strange scenario, to say the least.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
9. I don't associate with relatives or anyone like that.
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 09:32 PM
Dec 2015

My wish for friends to stay with would be someone who's not a slob with a stinking house and too many cats.

Someone who has a house clean enough to not set off my allergies and make me miserable.

Trust me, I am not an obsessive-compulsive cleaner. I used to think I was a real slob, but comparatively speaking it looks like I am.

I guess it's too much to ask. I have two cats that spend most of their time outside, and stay inside on the patio when it's cold.

Boomer

(4,169 posts)
10. This is a no-win situation
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 09:33 PM
Dec 2015

You're a guest in their house. If you can't get through a visit without gritting your teeth the entire time or if you feel you have to arm yourself with political ammunition for some showdown, you really shouldn't go. Why put yourself through that stressful experience and why subject your hosts to such an ungracious response to their hospitality? In turn, that they would put you, their guest, in such an intolerable position shows that they are not people worth your time.

I'm not sure what hold this friend has on you that could be enough to drag you into that woman's house, but there's no way I would do that for anyone, not even my wife.

Snobblevitch

(1,958 posts)
11. You are looking at this wrong.
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 10:19 PM
Dec 2015

You'll be a guest. Just refuse to engage her. Reply to her with non-sequiters.

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
27. +100
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 10:14 AM
Dec 2015

Talk about anything but politics and religion. You can never educate a hater.....not possible.

roody

(10,849 posts)
13. I moved in with my father in October to keep him safe.
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 11:25 PM
Dec 2015

He is an Obama hater. Long ago, my father was a nice person. Whatever he rants, I say uh-huh, and make no comment. He ran out of steam after two weeks. Obama rarely comes up now. I have to admit that we don't have a tv. He is too cheap to buy one, thank goodness. I am happy to live without Fox. Also I stopped the right wing fundraiser hate mail. I suggest you save your energy and not reply to your sister. Just ok or uh huh. Meanwhile be reading or playing with your phone.

Person 2713

(3,263 posts)
14. Just get sick or dizzy and either stay home or if forced to go get sick or dizzy or a bad headache
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 11:38 PM
Dec 2015

and immediately disappear to your room . Bring some reading you were looking to catch up on now for a while . I really like to say no to situations like this . People like that are toxic. Has any one killed HRC yet? Wow creepy
Also do tell her what you told us. That you are not a bible person and not looking to change that. If they continue to talk about the bible I ask them if they have anything else to talk about since it's a one sided conversation and they are being quite rude

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
15. Only solution is not to talk about politics.
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:37 AM
Dec 2015

You are never going to agree, and there are a million other things to talk about.

Skittles

(153,212 posts)
16. people like her are too stupid to debate with
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:39 AM
Dec 2015

tell her you refuse to discuss politics with a teabagger

MFrohike

(1,980 posts)
17. I have one
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 04:13 AM
Dec 2015

It's both the biggest one and also the most pathetic thing: he hasn't invaded any countries on trumped up evidence. It's big for obvious reasons and it's pathetic because, honestly, that shouldn't be a selling point for any president. Thanks to Bush and Cheney, the bar for presidential accomplishment is permanently set a lot lower.

If she mentions ISIS, kindly inform her that the group that would become ISIS was in tatters and nearly kaput in early 2003 after their failed uprising in Jordan. Ask if she recalls anything important in the early part of that year that would have given that bunch a chance to regroup and rebuild.

onecent

(6,096 posts)
18. Thanks everyone, I did get lots of ideas...
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 09:27 AM
Dec 2015

NOT going is not an option. I have been going for 8 years and love the farm with all the kitty kats running around. If I cannot handle one little person just by using some knowledge that I have learned here on DU...then I should hide in a closet for the rest of my life....

Won't do that..so I am ready for the crap to begin...Also depends on other people that are there, i'll do great...ha I plan to use
what I have learned here.
'you're a great group.....
all have a Merry Christmas.

Boomer

(4,169 posts)
22. Aren't manners just as important as "ideas"?
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 10:00 PM
Dec 2015

If you're accepting someone's hospitality because you love the amenities they offer you, their guest, surely it's incumbent upon you to keep the peace while you're there playing with the kitty kats.

In that context, "handling one little person" would mean just ignoring them, not fighting with them. If ignoring them is not an option, if their views offend you that much (and they certainly would me), then declining an invitation to their farm would carry the strongest message of all.

Response to Boomer (Reply #22)

edgineered

(2,101 posts)
19. If you were a true conservative -
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 09:51 AM
Dec 2015

you would not have ANY muslin in the house AND you would not touch food with dates. I think you are a closet liberal.

onecent

(6,096 posts)
20. You know I hate to say this...but I HAVE NOT A CLUE WHAT YOU JUST SAID. I DON'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 11:14 AM
Dec 2015

BETWEEN A TRUE CONSERVATIVE, NOR BETWEEN THAT AND A CLOSET LIBERAL.

ALL I KNOW, I don't like to be pissy around people, I don't push my political and religious ideas to othres, and I think it is
rude to do so.

So whatever I am I am still a voter, and can't even tell you you I'm going to vote for yet, cuz we don't even know who is running.

So if this sentence you wrote is an insult...considered me too dumb to be insulted...
it it is NOT AN INSULT...thanks for the advice.

edgineered

(2,101 posts)
21. I see what happened here -
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 11:30 AM
Dec 2015

Post was written in your voice, as if I were speaking to your hosts, and NOT directed at you. My apologies for not being clear.

(Now, a chuckle)

edit: hosts, not guests

onecent

(6,096 posts)
25. sorry if I misinterpreted....having a bad december....
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 09:52 AM
Dec 2015

TOO MUCH GOING ON...
have a Merry Chrisetmas.

edgineered

(2,101 posts)
28. Yeah, getting this human nature thing down gives me fits
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 01:08 PM
Dec 2015

It seems like only moments ago that I was off on something, wish I could remember what it was. . .

 

Facility Inspector

(615 posts)
26. don't go
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 09:53 AM
Dec 2015

life is too short to spend it with boorish company.

Do they have any hotels/motels in the area you can stay at?

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