Listen to this witness who saw three people dressed in all black and witnessed them

[mfcorey1]

entering the building in San Bernandino. WTW?

http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/witness-describes-the-san-bernardino-shooting/

[TwilightGardener]

1. Yeah, that's a weird discrepancy. But sometimes people are just wrong.

[philosslayer]

5. The description she is giving is quite detailed

Down to the zippers on the cargo pants. She said there were 3 dressed exactly the same. And she said they looked white, with athletic builds.

[Igel]

22. It's an evergreen topic in some courses.

Professor is lecturing.

Somebody runs into the lecture hall. Does something surprising or shocking--takes a backpack or purse, for instance. Then stops, stands, counts to 5 or 10 while facing the students, perhaps says something, and then runs out.

Immediately the professor asks for a description. Some say long hair, some short; some say red, blond, brunet. Mostly they get the sex right, but only if obvious. What was said varies by witness. What was done, closing, series of actions, varies.

That short blond guy wearing plaid button-shirt and long jeans is the same tall brown-haired guy wearing glasses, a tee-shirt, and shorts.

It's worse, much worse, if the professor decides to shape the discourse by offering his own description for the weak-minded to adopt.

Notice: "3 dressed exactly the same." Perhaps they lined up for her all at the same time. Wearing black, pale brown = white. (Note for those who aren't into the racial divisions of the last 20-30 years or so most Middle Easterners were considered swarthy, but not black. There was no racial division "brown." They were white. Italians and Greeks and S. Slavs were all "swarthy.&quot

[Hundred Rads]

2. Early reports had three attackers.

[philosslayer]

3. Very odd

Perhaps there is more information coming out that we don't know yet.

[2pooped2pop]

4. It won't play for me but let me guess

3 large males? No small one? I'm gonna guess that at least one of the large males was the brother in law or a provocateur. We can't go to war if we aren't afraid of ISIS now can we?

I know I will get crap for CT but really if our government didn't constantly lie, constantly provoke this kind of shit (look it up) and need a false flag for war...then maybe I wouldn't think the worse all the time.

[Dr Hobbitstein]

25. Look what up? nt

[CanonRay]

6. My friend is convinced it is a false flag operation

but that's a bridge to far for me. I'd need a lot of evidence. Witness statements, especially under duress, are particularly unreliable.

[2pooped2pop]

8. It's a bridge I don't want to cross

but a bridge that I would not doubt much either.

3 gunmen large-not 90lb
one rolled out of the car. Now enough people saw that roll to conduct a house to house,
Let people into the house same day.
They said they had them on their list,
found them very quickly
made sure they were dead
handcuffed in the back seat?
had cameras, no cameras.

I don't know. I just wish our govt and our media were trustworthy so I don't have to suspect them all the time.

[ananda]

14. So that would mean that two escaped.

Who and where are they?

[2pooped2pop]

18. I don't know if it means that or not

but whenever we listen to just the official explanation, I feel we are fools.

[LuvNewcastle]

32. That's about how I feel.

I don't trust our government or mainstream press as far as I can spit. Looking back over the last hundred years or so, it seems to me that the warmongers usually get what they want. It's just a matter of causing enough outrage. Sometimes they get what they want even without all the outrage.

[951-Riverside]

7. I'm sure all of this will be debunked as soon as building security camera footage is released...

any ...day ...now.

I mean the FBI was so eager to release the shooters apartment and allow hundreds of reporters and citizens into it in less than 48 hours after the shooting so I'm sure they'll release footage of these two and only TWO shooters exiting the black SUV and entering the building ...any ...day ...now

[Warren Stupidity]

9. eye witnesses are massively unreliable.

There was no third shooter. That will not stop a SB-Truther movement from developing.

On edit. I listened. Her initial account was almost entirely "we saw" this and that, her only reference to herself was "I called ". She was later interrogated by the news reader as to exactly what she saw and she then shifted to "I", but that was not how she originally described the events. I'll go out on a limb and say that she didn't see much of anything but was instead relaying her account of what somebody else with her said he saw.

[951-Riverside]

10. +1000. Thankfully most government buildings have security cameras...

so I'm sure this will be debunked any day now once screenshots from security cameras are released that shows these TWO and only TWO entering or exiting the building.

We should see those photos ...any ...day ...now.

[philosslayer]

11. Perhaps they were inoperative that day

It happens

[2pooped2pop]

17. yes everytime there are major attacks it seems

like the pentagon
the buses during the London subway attacks
almost everytime a cop kills someone

I would sure like to see a whole list of those malfunctions.

[spanone]

12. were there no video cameras at the venue?

[malaise]

19. Apparenntly not

I think I heard that

[Nye Bevan]

13. Hmmm. She said she never saw his face; he was dressed all in black with a black hat;

but somehow she knows he was a white man.

Some people are quite prepared to tell outright lies in pursuit of their 15 minutes of fame.

[still_one]

26. That in and of itself speaks volumes. I have no doubt a few will come and say it was the government

not them, regardless what the victims say happened

[elias49]

15. At least twice I heard -'... the third person was not charged

and was released by authorities...'. I know what I heard the journalist say. And he said just that.
What is it? Misspeak, flat-out error, someone misinformed?, outright lie?
May never know.

[randome]

27. I believe the person who ran out of the Amazon building was the third person held, then released.

But it turned out he was just fleeing for his life because it was thought the gunner was nearby. I was listening to the San Bernardino police scanner at the time. There was no third shooter.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]You’re cheating yourself if you don’t accept the same benefit of a doubt you’d offer anyone else.[/center][/font][hr]

[malaise]

16. Yes many witnesses saw three white males in all black

Interesting was that the media all said this could change. It was all very odd and I am clueless about what to make of it.

[2naSalit]

21. If they were pretty well covered

with face masks and all,I wonder how the distinction of "white" was made. Some folks can't tell when the skin is not very dark.

Just wondering.

[2naSalit]

20. Video is now unavailable.

[ucrdem]

24. Sally Abdelmageed interview:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/san-bernardino-shooting-witnesses-describe-terror-inside-inland-regional-center/

[2naSalit]

34. Thanks

that worked.

[MowCowWhoHow III]

23. Well let's hope the witness is wrong

Because if she is right, then there are one or more lunatics in the wind, who must realize that law enforcement will be closing in on them*, and will probably be planning to go out in a 'blaze of glory' before they are apprehended.

*crime scene incompetence notwithstanding.

[hobbit709]

28. Eyewitness accounts are notoriously inaccurate.

[mythology]

29. Eyewitness testimony isn't really reliable

http://www.apa.org/monitor/apr06/eyewitness.aspx

Of note from the above link:

"Mistaken or flawed identification has assumed a newfound prominence in recent years: It's been cited as a factor in nearly 78 percent of the nation's first 130 convictions later overturned by DNA testing, according to the New York-based Innocence Project, which works to free the wrongly convicted. As a result, a number of researchers are turning their attention to helping police departments and juries better understand the circumstances under which eyewitnesses observe crimes and later identify a suspect."

http://www.innocenceproject.org/causes-wrongful-conviction/eyewitness-misidentification

People make mistakes, especially under stress.

[arcane1]

30. That, and the "telephone" game, are why initial news reports should be viewed with heavy skepticism.

[LiberalArkie]

31. Might I point out something very simple. Perhaps there were indeed 3 shooters.

Perhaps 1 lived and was grabbed. Perhaps no one outside of the Feds know that now. Perhaps the feds would like to find out who that person talked to without anyone else knowing that person is alive.

Perhaps 1 lived and was not grabbed but is allowed to think that he got away with it, but the feds know who it is and is thus under constant monitoring.

Perhaps there were only 2 and no one alive to say anything.

[Nevernose]

33. A list of weird things about the SB shootings:

Let me preface this by saying that I'm not a conspiracy theorist, nor am I espousing any theories.

Multiple witnesses reported three shooters (other posters are correct in saying how terrible eyewitness ID is).
The wife's "allegiance to ISIS? Not made on her regular FB account, but one that was pseudonymous and no one else knew about.
The post was deleted, which makes it, at the very least, pretty shitty terrorism.
There were pipe bombs found at the house, but none were ever used. Is it normal for terrorists to build bombs they're not planning on using?
No major organizations took believable credit.
They only killed the husband's coworkers.
They killed them within an hour of him arguing with the coworkers.