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dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 06:06 PM Dec 2015

France is "considering blocking" Tor and banning public Wi-Fi connections,says blog.

French article translated:



The services of the Interior Ministry are considering a number of measures to strengthen once more security at the expense of freedoms. Compulsory cutting of any open Wi-Fi network , blocking anonymizing networks and provision of messaging encryption keys are among the tracks submitted to arbitration.

The list of measures considered by the government to strengthen security at the expense of freedom and privacy extends.
While the government is already considering new security laws that would allow eg to cross all personal data files held by the state, to force the installation of GPS transmitters on leased cars, lengthen the retention of connection data or to facilitate the use of IMSI catchers - Le Monde Saturday reveals new measures identified by the Interior Ministry .

http://www.numerama.com/politique/133795-wi-fi-ouvert-interdit-tor-bloque-les-nouvelles-idees-de-la-police.html

This is from a French blog, the same info. has been floating around for a few days on the internet.
But,
apparently the Paris attackers `were using non-encrypted communications.

There is some serious concern that the attacks are being used to limit use of internet.
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France is "considering blocking" Tor and banning public Wi-Fi connections,says blog. (Original Post) dixiegrrrrl Dec 2015 OP
Some US leaders are also concerned about terrorist use of internet 6chars Dec 2015 #1
Gah. Fuck the 'other side'. Law enforcement would happily do away with miranda, due process, X_Digger Dec 2015 #2
Fascists like to talk about "evolving threats." LuvNewcastle Dec 2015 #5
That might well be the standard bearer of our party 6chars Dec 2015 #6
Someone doesn't understand technology TampaAnimusVortex Dec 2015 #3
Aye. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2015 #4
2011 attempt in Denmark. moondust Dec 2015 #7
Remember right after 9-11 how fast the Patriot Act was passed? dixiegrrrrl Dec 2015 #8
If the RW parties in Europe make big gains, moondust Dec 2015 #9
them worms are all over the place now nadinbrzezinski Dec 2015 #10
We've got Trump over here, and it looks like the French have their fascists too. backscatter712 Dec 2015 #11
You mean the few civil liberties we have left after Bush/Cheney reign? dixiegrrrrl Dec 2015 #13
TOR? yesterday's news... JCMach1 Dec 2015 #12

6chars

(3,967 posts)
1. Some US leaders are also concerned about terrorist use of internet
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 06:40 PM
Dec 2015
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hillary-clinton-calls-facebook-youtube-twitter-fight-isis/story?id=35607324

“If you look at the story about this woman and maybe the man, too, who got radicalized, self-radicalized, we’re going to need help from Facebook, and from YouTube and from Twitter.”

"They cannot permit the recruitment and the actual direction of attacks or the celebration of violence by this sophisticated Internet user,” she said about the social networking sites.

"They're going to have to help us take down these announcements and these appeals,” Clinton added.

Stephanopoulos pressed Clinton further, asking whether companies like Apple should be allowed to continue proving encryption to customers which prevents the company from reading user’s text messages.

"This is something I've said for a long time, George,” Clinton said. "I have to believe that the best minds in the private sector, in the public sector could come together to help us deal with this evolving threat.”

She added: "I know what the argument is from our friends in the industry. I respect that. Nobody wants to be feeling like their privacy is invaded. But I also know what the argument is on the other side from law enforcement and security professionals.”

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
2. Gah. Fuck the 'other side'. Law enforcement would happily do away with miranda, due process,
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 06:44 PM
Dec 2015

reasonable suspicion, and inadmissible searches.

Boo-fucking-hoo.

TampaAnimusVortex

(785 posts)
3. Someone doesn't understand technology
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 08:11 PM
Dec 2015

Any blocks to Tor would be bypassed in about 5 mins. Data could be port or protocol shifted, encoded in images and linked on Twitter, or Facebook messages, or about a billion other methods.

Anyone on the side of controlling the dissemination data in a digital world is completely clueless as to what is going on.

moondust

(20,014 posts)
7. 2011 attempt in Denmark.
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 10:27 PM
Dec 2015
Denmark Police Propose Ban On Anonymous Internet Use

I've wondered how hard it would be just to find the ISPs hosting ISIS videos and propaganda and "deal" with them directly.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
8. Remember right after 9-11 how fast the Patriot Act was passed?
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 10:41 PM
Dec 2015

It was written and ready to go, just witting for the right reason to use.

Various countries are using the by now decades long terror card to curb rights and liberties.
And yet, strangely enough, with all the spying they already have been doing, they were surprised by the most recent attacks?
Even tho they can, a day after the attacks, claim to have tracked down the evil doer's communications???

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
11. We've got Trump over here, and it looks like the French have their fascists too.
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 11:55 PM
Dec 2015

Fuck that shit. If we start curbstomping our civil liberties over Daesh, that means they won.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
13. You mean the few civil liberties we have left after Bush/Cheney reign?
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 06:15 AM
Dec 2015

I wish supporters of free speech, civil rights were as loud and persistent as the NRA has been.

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