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struggle4progress

(118,350 posts)
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 11:36 AM Dec 2015

Can we drop the birther BS on Cruz for now?

Yes, we're all royally pissed about the ignorant noise we've heard about our President not being a real US citizen cuz he was born in Hawaii, which too many people pretend to believe is somewhere in Kenya or whatever part of South America he's from

If Cruz gets the GOP nomination, which I think unlikely, then IMO there's not much of a chance he'd be elected -- but if it happens and you're really worried, feel free to knock yourself out having fun calling rightwing talk-radio and sounding horrified that he picked up the nomination:

Why the bloody blue blazes -- scuse my French: I don't usually talk like this -- but why the heck are the Republicans nominating another foreigner for President? I mean, this is the third time, isn't it? 2008, they ran McCain, not born in the US! Then 2012, Romney, not born in the US! And now, it's Cruz, again not born in the US! What's up? There are millions of real Americans in this country! Can't they find anybody from here to run? Cruz is a Cuban from Canada! That's not one but two socialist countries, there, Cuba and Canada. Romney was born in Mexico for the love of pete! Did the Trilateral Commission secretly take over our country when nobody was paying attention? It's like something you'd see on the X-files!

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Can we drop the birther BS on Cruz for now? (Original Post) struggle4progress Dec 2015 OP
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in fairness, maybe he should stop the birther stuff on Obama first... JCMach1 Dec 2015 #2
I don't think we are full on birthers. trumad Dec 2015 #3
Just goes to show, politial ideology does not preclude the nutburgers. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #4
Grayson likes to seperate idiots from their money n/t MosheFeingold Dec 2015 #6
That's why WND went full metal Birther, too. eom MohRokTah Dec 2015 #7
Absolitely MosheFeingold Dec 2015 #8
It's not Birther BS, it's using their own hypocrisy as a weapon against them. cleanhippie Dec 2015 #5
No. It will keep coming up. I just tune it out. WillowTree Dec 2015 #9
Yeah, no. Fuck that guy. truebrit71 Dec 2015 #10
I'm not sure I see an analogy to birthers DefenseLawyer Dec 2015 #11
True though the documentation demand treestar Dec 2015 #12
Naaaa. Javaman Dec 2015 #13

Response to struggle4progress (Original post)

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
3. I don't think we are full on birthers.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 12:01 PM
Dec 2015

I think we enjoy giving them a taste of their own medicine. We like showing their hypocrisy.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
4. Just goes to show, politial ideology does not preclude the nutburgers.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 12:04 PM
Dec 2015

Alan Grayson is a Cruz Birther, for goodness sake, which simply solidifies what I always thought of Grayson.

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
11. I'm not sure I see an analogy to birthers
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 01:24 PM
Dec 2015

"Birthers" make false claims about the President having been born in a foreign country. Ted Cruz WAS born in a foreign country. There is no conspiracy theory or dispute about that. Because that is not in dispute, the only question to be answered is whether he meets the Constitutional requirement to become President, i.e. that he is a "natural born citizen". Most agree that Cruz's situation meets the requirement, although there is no precedent that I know of directly on point to definitively resolve the question. I don't see it as unworthy of exploration, even if, in my opinion Cruz meets the requirement. If he wasn't born in a foreign country (if he had been born in say, Hawaii and not Canada) those seeking clarification would be "birthers".

treestar

(82,383 posts)
12. True though the documentation demand
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 01:26 PM
Dec 2015

would be fair enough. They kept demanding Obama's birth certificate. He produced it. Anyone who continued with birtherism after that is a nut bar.

Cruz's birth certificate and his mother's are fair game to ask for.

I used to ask right wingers why they did not need to see McCain's and one of his parents' (which would have documented citizenship for him) and never got an answer.

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