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AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 01:38 AM Dec 2015

Who here is advocating for gun confiscation?

Gun control is not the same thing as gun confiscation. Any of you here advocate for the stuff that gun nuts are fearful of and of which fear makes them to give their undivided loyalty to Wayne Lapierre?

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Who here is advocating for gun confiscation? (Original Post) AZ Progressive Dec 2015 OP
I am not in favor of gun confiscation. Snobblevitch Dec 2015 #1
I for one... MrWendel Dec 2015 #2
I guess you haven't been reading any of the recent guns threads? EX500rider Dec 2015 #3
I do. CBGLuthier Dec 2015 #4
Me. 951-Riverside Dec 2015 #5
Fantasy pipoman Dec 2015 #17
I only call for gun confiscation from gun trolls who push gun nuttery in liberal forums. onehandle Dec 2015 #6
In other words ... Straw Man Dec 2015 #9
Arguing for gun rights on a liberal forum.... jack_krass Dec 2015 #18
Are you from 17th-18th century America? onehandle Dec 2015 #20
Lack of sleep due to Hemeroids causes 114 billion dollars in lost wages and 34 suicides each year jack_krass Dec 2015 #21
People who haven't the foggiest clue what they are talking about pipoman Dec 2015 #7
Right, because "if you come fer our guns you're gonna die!"... "Molon labe", "1776 will commence" 951-Riverside Dec 2015 #8
No, because until there is a constitutional amendment on the table pipoman Dec 2015 #14
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #10
problem is Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #11
We can't have true control unless we have removed all their firearms. ileus Dec 2015 #12
Not me bigwillq Dec 2015 #13
No one is but don't let that stop gun nutters from thinking so. tenderfoot Dec 2015 #15
Or the control fanatics from publicly fantasizing.... pipoman Dec 2015 #16
Slippery slope is a real argument in this case davidn3600 Dec 2015 #19

Snobblevitch

(1,958 posts)
1. I am not in favor of gun confiscation.
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 01:54 AM
Dec 2015

I do not believe the goal is able to be accomplished, I do not noeve ot is legal, and I also believe the only thing such talk accomplishes is to sell more guns.

MrWendel

(1,881 posts)
2. I for one...
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 01:54 AM
Dec 2015

would not lose any sleep if that happened. Hell I would sleep even better, but we know that would never happen.

EX500rider

(10,849 posts)
3. I guess you haven't been reading any of the recent guns threads?
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 01:54 AM
Dec 2015

Most of them have several people calling for that.

 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
5. Me.
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 02:02 AM
Dec 2015

Gun control does not work and will never work with so many firearms on the street and in private hands.

I support a total gun ban, no sales, no transfers, nothing with confiscation/buy back/amnesty program and if those die hard holdouts think that a piece of metal is worth more than their lives then so be it.

...Cold dead hands and all that jazz.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
6. I only call for gun confiscation from gun trolls who push gun nuttery in liberal forums.
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 02:04 AM
Dec 2015

Collect their screen names, posts, and IP addresses to Homeland Security.

Straw Man

(6,625 posts)
9. In other words ...
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 05:25 AM
Dec 2015
I only call for gun confiscation from gun trolls who push gun nuttery in liberal forums.

Collect their screen names, posts, and IP addresses to Homeland Security.

... no one here, right?
 

jack_krass

(1,009 posts)
18. Arguing for gun rights on a liberal forum....
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 09:42 AM
Dec 2015

Is natural and fitting. I can't think of a better place to do so...

The right to keep and bear arms.

The right to have the means to defend oneself

These are *liberal* ideas, inseparable from other individual liberties...

It is the position of the gun controllers (and ideas like reporting people you disagree with to homeland security) that is illiberal and authoritarian.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
20. Are you from 17th-18th century America?
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 10:14 AM
Dec 2015

Because I would agree with you up to the signing of The Treaty of Ghent in 1814.

After that, guns became nothing but a symbol of oppression and a codpiece that now costs us tens of thousands of lives and $229 billion dollars each year.

 

jack_krass

(1,009 posts)
21. Lack of sleep due to Hemeroids causes 114 billion dollars in lost wages and 34 suicides each year
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 01:06 PM
Dec 2015

Last edited Wed Dec 9, 2015, 06:48 PM - Edit history (1)

My statement carries about as much weight and is about as easy to prove as yours...

Saying that "Guns did this", or "guns costed that" is meaningless, because if you had took all the guns away, many of those people would have still killed each other by other means, and found other ways to cause the economic damage you mention.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
7. People who haven't the foggiest clue what they are talking about
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 02:15 AM
Dec 2015

And that goes for the one's who think they are onto something about banning ammunition or any kind of gun. It goes for those who don't understand the difference between gun ownership (an enumerated civil liberty) and public transportation (a privilege)...even the latter being questionable for denial without some form of due process...

Bottom line, those who are advocates of gun confiscation will be disappointed for a very long time because of their ignorance...

 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
8. Right, because "if you come fer our guns you're gonna die!"... "Molon labe", "1776 will commence"
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 03:24 AM
Dec 2015

"from muh cold dead hands"

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
14. No, because until there is a constitutional amendment on the table
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 09:30 AM
Dec 2015

AND the possibility of 37 states supporting that amendment, its all just a fantasy in the minds of the ignorant.

Response to AZ Progressive (Original post)

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
11. problem is
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 07:37 AM
Dec 2015

This has not been enforced for some time and you should also say the same about the dozens of other gun posts not related to any big news event.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
12. We can't have true control unless we have removed all their firearms.
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 08:08 AM
Dec 2015

Don't the NRA any credit, they're only 5 million strong, and if we take everyone's guns they won't have anything to be loyal to Wayne for.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
16. Or the control fanatics from publicly fantasizing....
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 09:36 AM
Dec 2015

Oh, and yes, plenty of constitutionally ignorant are doing just that...

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
19. Slippery slope is a real argument in this case
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 09:53 AM
Dec 2015

Laws like more background checks and watch lists would not have stopped a single mass murder that has happened. So when the next murder happens, then what? We demand more laws, right? And we keep going and going with this cycle until we start talking about confiscation. That's the ultimate goal of gun-control advocates. And that's why a wall has formed in Congress that prevents the cycle from even starting.

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