Will the US have another black president?

[NYCButterfinger]

I'm hearing some of my co workers saying that GWB was the last white president that the country will ever see again. They believe that Clinton, O Malley, and Sanders are wasting time running for president and that Deval Patrick, Cory Booker, and Kasim Reed will be the Democratic nominee in July, and likely win the presidency. Do you think so, or are they delusional? Regardless of what they say, will we have another African American president?

[tularetom]

1. What? In 2016? No way! Ever? Probably

[yeoman6987]

2. One is currently running on the GOP side and a few Hispanics as well

Who knows. The future is unknown.

[NYCButterfinger]

5. They feel that the Democratic Party is "beholden" to AA

That's what they tell me. They feel that the party is "alienating white voters".

[sufrommich]

7. Hmmmm. nt

[cali]

10. Sounds like they're racists.

[NYCButterfinger]

11. I don't think so. One of them dated an African American.

[sufrommich]

13. How convienient that your racist friend

can claim a relationship with an AA as protection against being called out as racist.

[NYCButterfinger]

16. He can't be a racist, and have a relationship with an

Black woman. It can't be like that.

[sufrommich]

19. There's a long history of "I have a black friend"

racism,your OP is skirting it right now.

[NYCButterfinger]

21. It's not about me. It's about my friends.

They're delusional.

[awoke_in_2003]

33. Of course he can still be a racist...

Plenty of people are capable of thinking "this one is okay, it is all the others who are not". Then, of course, there is the long history of white men treating black woman as property for their pleasure.

[brush]

40. Wrongo! Racist slave owners loved to make trips to the back quarters when missus wasn't around.

Why do you think AAs come in so many shades.

[FrodosPet]

52. Just because someone's penis is not racist

It doesn't mean the rest of them cannot be.

[NYC Liberal]

56. My counter to that is always...

"So a man in a relationship with a woman can't be a misogynist?"

[Number23]

60. Excellent rebuttal, NYC

[sufrommich]

3. Your friends are delusional. nt

[WillowTree]

9. Ditto.

[cali]

4. Yes, they're delusional idiots. Obviously.

[NYCButterfinger]

8. I know they're crazy, but this is how they feel

[brush]

42. Delusional, yes. But maybe not idiots

None of those mentioned are even running so it is delusional for 2016.

Booker is very ambitious and probably has his eye on the VP slot at the 2016 convention, and the top slot in 2020.

Patrick, inexplicably signed on with Bain Capital of all places after he left office so that kind of eliminated his presidential ambitions on the dem side. He may switch to repug though (ugh) and run with Mitt, his new employer, in 2020.

Reed may be worth keeping an eye on in 2020.

[951-Riverside]

6. When will we have have the first Native American President?

Enough of the European, Spanish and African descendants getting first dibs to control land they have no right to.

I think its only right that this country get its first Native American President and I'm not talking about some person claiming to be 1/1000th Cherokee.

[VanillaRhapsody]

14. Can we have a woman first?

We are over half the population...

[951-Riverside]

36. Sure, I would love to see the first Female Native American president

[VanillaRhapsody]

37. Why?

We haven't had a female of ANY persuasion yet. And I say this as a part Cherokee.....

[951-Riverside]

38. Why not?

[VanillaRhapsody]

44. because one is not running for office?

[Dale Neiburg]

12. Ever? Certainly.

Relatively soon? Probably.

2016? Almost certainly not.

[riversedge]

15. After Hillary has served her tems as Madam President--the US will no longer

have Whites as the majority POC could in all likelihood be President.


For U.S. Children, Minorities Will Be The Majority By 2020, Census Says. Updated March 4, 20157:18 PM ET Originally published March 4, 20158:05 AM ET.
America is heading toward the day when whites will no longer make up the majority of the population.Mar 4, 2015
For U.S. Children, Minorities Will Be The Majority By 2020 ...
www.npr.org/.../for-u-s-children-minorities-will-be-the-majority-by-20...NPR

[davidn3600]

39. Not exactly

Whites alone will eventually drop below 50%, but they will still make up far more people in this country than any other group, and will for well over a century. Also, it gets more complicated in the future. As Latinos grow, they and whites will begin to have more interracial children. Moreso than whites and blacks.

My girlfriend is 1/2 hispanic. Her father is German and mother is Venezuelan. But she looks white. Is she counted as white or hispanic in the Census? And if we have kids, how are they counted? It's going to get confusing and irrelevant eventually.

It also doesn't necessarily change the social dynamics. Whites were a minority in South Africa that oppressed a black majority for many years. It all depends on who holds the wealth. Whites still have massive control of wealth and land in the western hemisphere. And that won't change for a long time since much of wealth and property is passed down and inherited.

[Matariki]

58. I think that more than one boxes can be checked on the census form

I don't know who decides when a particular ancestry is too far back. I'm 1/8 Asian but don't check it on the census or really identify with it much.

[Throd]

17. Yes.

[Blue_Tires]

18. Sure...We'll have Kanye in 2022 if every DUer do their part

[MohRokTah]

20. Deval PAtrick, Cory Booker, and KAsim Reed are NOT running for president.

Is cannabis legal in the state where you work?

[MohRokTah]

23. Hence my question about the legality of cannabis in your state.

I figured they were high at first.

[obnoxiousdrunk]

24. You need

new friends.

[NYCButterfinger]

25. Eh, they're just concerned and crazy.

[sufrommich]

27. What are they "concerned" about? nt

[cali]

26. Your friends are disgusting racists. Period.

[Agnosticsherbet]

28. Deval Patrick, Cory Booker, and Kasim Reed are not running, have no organization, have not

moved to put their names on any primaries, have not raised any funds. They are woefully ignorant as to how the system works.

Yes, there will be another black President, though not in this election.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

29. After having read your entire participation in this thread, I have to conclude that...

...your "friends" don't actually exist.

A belated welcome to DU, by the way.

[sufrommich]

35. Thank you and ditto. nt

[NYCButterfinger]

46. You don't know them. How can you say that

they don't exist. This is America, people say whatever they want.

[NYCButterfinger]

47. People can say whatever they want. That is what happens

at work.

[Mr Dixon]

30. IMO

IMO it will be Hillary 8 years then Cory Booker 8 year the maybe a Latino candidate seems like a logical progression.

[liberal N proud]

31. A black republican president - NOT in 2016

Since there is only one black in the field currently and he is republican, I don't see the blacks voting republican.

[marmar]

32. This post.....and a couple of the responses ...........

...... really have me shaking my head.

[Half-Century Man]

34. None are currently running as far as I know.

I can think of a couple of people who might be good candidates.

Cory Booker for one. Elijah Cummings might be another.

[brush]

43. Elijah Cummings, yes. Booker, no. I've heard unflattering things about his ambition and ties to

hedge funds.

And remember, he also criticized the Obama campaign in 2012 for it's attacks on Romney and Bain Capital when he was a surrogate for the Obama camp.

Whatever the fu_k he was thinking to side with repugs against his own candidate will not be forgotten.

[Half-Century Man]

45. Just a hurried response to a post.

As I do not know the ambitions of any AA as to the Presidency; I picked 2 people I respect what I know of them as an opening suggestion.
I do not want to rule out any of the younger more fiery advocates of BLM, I see strength, intelligence and leadership in some of them. That's coming from an European American layperson.

[TexasProgresive]

41. A bumper sticker poll in my area would give the winner to Carson.

All on vehicles driven by whites. Carson are the only current stickers I see.

[octoberlib]

48. Yes.

[NYCButterfinger]

49. If that is the case, they might have a tougher road than

Obama. A lot of people feel that the president "lowered the bar"

[octoberlib]

54. This is one of the more bizarre OP's I've seen on DU.

"A lot of people feel that Obama lowered the bar". Yeah, Republicans and racists.

[KamaAina]

50. Of course!

[whatthehey]

51. Delusional sure. Not sure how racist comes into it

Unless of course they are not just saying that Patrick et al will be nominees (that's the delusional part) but also that if they were it would be terrible because they are black (that would be the racist part). I'd be fine with a Patrick nomination personally, but 7 weeks before IA is a bit beyond cutting it fine. Do your friends understand the nomination process and that most delegates are pledged?


As to the headline question the answer is of course, and maybe even one of the names listed. Just not in 2017. FWIW here's my guess on "minority POTUS super accumulator" sequencing.

Female
Black (yes we've had Obama, I mean the next one)
Hispanic/Latino/a
Jewish
GLBT
Significant NA %

Probably all in the next 100 years

Muslim? Beyond fortseeable horizon most likely. Certainly generations.

The one we'll really have to wait for is atheist, or rather open atheist. We've probably already had more than one private nonbeliever. I truly cannot see the US electing a known unbeliever any earlier than Iran or Iraq doing the same.

[BainsBane]

53. Yes, at some point

Why wouldn't we?

Clearly your coworkers are disturbed about the decline of the white male's exclusive grip on power and are concocting conspiracy theories. The only AA who is running is on the GOP side. There is no indicated any of the candidates listen have any intention of entering the Democratic primaries.

As for the folks who can't see how those comments are racist, that is a problem in and of itself.

[whatthehey]

55. Then explain it to the "folks"

What that we have been told indicates anyone's opinion on the desirability of black Presidents? I can pretty much guarantee for example that all the remaining Presidents in my lifetime will be nominal Christians. I don't think that makes them undesirable as Presidents, unless of course they pursue theocracy (I would find a black President who espoused black supremacy undesirable too, just like a white one espousing white supremacy). I'm not against Christian Presidents. Heck every single President I revere in any way has been ostensibly at any rate a committed believer. I'm predicting more of the same, not expressing bigotry against or loathing of more of the same. I'm also predicting that Obama wants other Christians to follow him in office

What are the third party folks described doing differently? With the evidence presented that is not kneejerk guesses about their unstated opinions?

[Major Hogwash]

57. Nina Turner in 2020!

Why not?

She has everything we need, guts, brains, and a backbone!!!

[JI7]

59. your have idiot racist coworkers