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Egnever

(21,506 posts)
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 12:56 AM Dec 2015

Celebrated hunter crushed to death by baby elephant

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3046075/Celebrated-hunter-crushed-death-baby-elephant-tried-measure-ivory-U-S-client.html

A celebrated Texas-born hunter was crushed to death by a baby elephant in Zimbabwe as he tried to measure its ivory tusks for an American client.

Ian Gibson, 55, was a lauded figure among U.S. safari enthusiasts, who would commission him to slaughter prized animals near his home in South Africa.

On Wednesday, he was tentatively approaching the young bull elephant in Zimbabwe's Zambezi Valley when the animal charged, and knelt on Gibson until he died.



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Celebrated hunter crushed to death by baby elephant (Original Post) Egnever Dec 2015 OP
That's a shame HERVEPA Dec 2015 #1
Yep cpwm17 Dec 2015 #3
RIP. Horrible for the loved ones. yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #26
. . . of the elephants he murdered Maru Kitteh Dec 2015 #37
I don't belittle the death of a human being no matter what they have done. yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #48
Good for you atreides1 Dec 2015 #51
That idiot brought it upon himself. hobbit709 Dec 2015 #58
Hitler? chalmers Dec 2015 #61
While yet others won't belittle the deaths of endangered animals killed for mere sport.. LanternWaste Dec 2015 #63
I hope someone turned Ian's teeth into a fan or a piano key. Arugula Latte Dec 2015 #2
Touché . . . Journeyman Dec 2015 #6
!! Egnever Dec 2015 #7
..or the world's smallest violin. TimeToEvolve Dec 2015 #82
+1,000 !!! delete_bush Dec 2015 #92
"as he tried to measure its ivory tusks for an American client" PSPS Dec 2015 #4
It's just a shame his client didn't go with him. n/t bvf Dec 2015 #16
+10000000000000 2naSalit Dec 2015 #32
Absolutely right. n/t Judi Lynn Dec 2015 #45
I'm siding with Baby E here! leftofcool Dec 2015 #5
Can anyone give me any reason why I should feel bad for this guy?? nt Logical Dec 2015 #8
No, nada, none! leftofcool Dec 2015 #9
I can't. SammyWinstonJack Dec 2015 #19
I have none rpannier Dec 2015 #31
... 2naSalit Dec 2015 #33
You have a rye sense of humor. nt msanthrope Dec 2015 #47
And the pastrami helps as well. GoneOffShore Dec 2015 #94
See response to comment above... 2naSalit Dec 2015 #105
It gets even better 2naSalit Dec 2015 #104
Actually.... Xolodno Dec 2015 #67
i got nuthin for him. restorefreedom Dec 2015 #77
Not mutually exclusive. Precisely. n/t nomorenomore08 Dec 2015 #97
What a terrible tragedy. LeftyMom Dec 2015 #10
I know! Poor baby!! n/t Tess49 Dec 2015 #12
Justice. spooky3 Dec 2015 #11
Unfortunately the animal will be slaughtered anyway. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #13
Say nothing but good about he dead! Tommy2Tone Dec 2015 #14
Moms Mabley, right? Nt JudyM Dec 2015 #22
Yes indeed.. Tommy2Tone Dec 2015 #64
Ha. Yeah that "he dead, good" is one my dad loves to tell. Amazing, he told it again tonight! Nt JudyM Dec 2015 #91
YAY, elephant! kath Dec 2015 #15
I tell ya, there are a lot of ways I would not want to die and being crushed to death is way Rex Dec 2015 #17
The elephant said... HassleCat Dec 2015 #18
Think of the hubris involved... catnhatnh Dec 2015 #20
Agreed. And it's done on farms all the time. And much worse than that. Nt JudyM Dec 2015 #24
+1000 (nt) a2liberal Dec 2015 #40
Now I'm worried about the elephant. pa28 Dec 2015 #21
I don't believe in Karma as an external force... TipTok Dec 2015 #23
Is the elephant ok??? 840high Dec 2015 #25
Hmmm angrychair Dec 2015 #27
Iggo....are you here? I am waiting for your patented reply!! (eom) StevieM Dec 2015 #28
GO Elephants! Beat the Hunters! Iggo Dec 2015 #35
I was wondering if you would show. StevieM Dec 2015 #62
Well done that baby elephant. Boudica the Lyoness Dec 2015 #29
Damn. If I were a baby elephant... DreamGypsy Dec 2015 #30
... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #34
I feel bad RandySF Dec 2015 #36
April news? rjsquirrel Dec 2015 #38
Late Breaking News is another forum. We like this thread. This is the forum for it. n/t Judi Lynn Dec 2015 #46
Barely one step above shooting a caged animal. keithbvadu2 Dec 2015 #39
I hope the elephant wasn't hurt in this. nt arthritisR_US Dec 2015 #41
uh yeah...that's just too bad.... dhill926 Dec 2015 #42
Some days you git the bar, other days the bar gits you nt MrScorpio Dec 2015 #43
Fuck him Fearless Dec 2015 #44
My only regret is that the baby elephant malaise Dec 2015 #49
Not a pleasant way to die. Inkfreak Dec 2015 #50
Not like he was asking for it or anything. Crunchy Frog Dec 2015 #70
The question of hunting aside. Laughing at his death is gross. Inkfreak Dec 2015 #74
slaughtering elephants is gross. Crunchy Frog Dec 2015 #78
Well, I'll just check with you in the future to see who deserves what. Inkfreak Dec 2015 #79
a certain subculture of humans only exists to make the Earth shittier for all the other people. TimeToEvolve Dec 2015 #81
bullshit of the highest order. Inkfreak Dec 2015 #83
Whoa! darkangel218 Dec 2015 #89
Whoa! Finding a mans death sad is not defending poaching. Inkfreak Dec 2015 #95
That said man went out to kill a baby elephant. darkangel218 Dec 2015 #98
I think I'll let Curly Bill deliver the eulogy Miles Archer Dec 2015 #52
Good fucking riddence madokie Dec 2015 #53
An elephant's life is worth far more than his. RedCappedBandit Dec 2015 #54
What's worth more than yours? Inkfreak Dec 2015 #75
Elephants are endangered. This was a human needlessly killing elephants. RedCappedBandit Dec 2015 #86
+1 darkangel218 Dec 2015 #90
Team Elephant!!! dorkzilla Dec 2015 #55
Good. One less asshole in the world. CharlotteVale Dec 2015 #56
I heard that he enjoyed squash and lived in a sprawling flat Orrex Dec 2015 #57
I hope the little elephant wasn't hurt. NaturalHigh Dec 2015 #59
Divine Justice. OregonBlue Dec 2015 #60
See my user name for how I feel abut this. ohheckyeah Dec 2015 #65
I remember the nuns telling us all lives mattered that all of us were here for a reason... joeybee12 Dec 2015 #66
I'm with you on this. nt TeamPooka Dec 2015 #69
Hard not to think otherwise after living through George W. Bush...nt joeybee12 Dec 2015 #71
RIP Crunchy Frog Dec 2015 #68
Roll Tide! KamaAina Dec 2015 #72
That works for me... TeeYiYi Dec 2015 #73
maybe the other sociopathic murderer, restorefreedom Dec 2015 #76
+1 million darkangel218 Dec 2015 #99
This message was self-deleted by its author tularetom Dec 2015 #80
good.. TimeToEvolve Dec 2015 #84
Karma Faux pas Dec 2015 #85
I have zero sympathy for this low life. avebury Dec 2015 #87
this happened in april. niyad Dec 2015 #88
That makes my heart smile! Coventina Dec 2015 #93
Guy was an asshole, but I wouldn't go so far as to say he "deserved" this. nomorenomore08 Dec 2015 #96
Baby elephants have tusks? JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2015 #100
I see it now - his head is mounted on a board in the elephants den liberal N proud Dec 2015 #101
The circle of life LuvNewcastle Dec 2015 #102
... Photographer Dec 2015 #103
Was he going to eat the tusks? Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #106
 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
48. I don't belittle the death of a human being no matter what they have done.
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 04:46 AM
Dec 2015

It will never happen in a million years for me.

atreides1

(16,089 posts)
51. Good for you
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 07:22 AM
Dec 2015

But this man wasn't human...he murdered animals for sport! That in itself shows his complete lack of humanity!!!

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
58. That idiot brought it upon himself.
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 08:56 AM
Dec 2015

There's a big difference between hunting for food and hunting for trophies.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
63. While yet others won't belittle the deaths of endangered animals killed for mere sport..
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 12:55 PM
Dec 2015

While yet others won't belittle the deaths of endangered animals killed for mere sport... no matter what they have done, either.

PSPS

(13,608 posts)
4. "as he tried to measure its ivory tusks for an American client"
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 01:03 AM
Dec 2015

So, in other words, the elephants won this round and this guy now resides where he belongs.

rpannier

(24,333 posts)
31. I have none
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 03:11 AM
Dec 2015

But, I'm sure someone will show up to admonish people for grave dancing.
That thbe guy was human being and so on

2naSalit

(86,748 posts)
33. ...
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 03:15 AM
Dec 2015
guy was human being


Just barley, and it was purely biological and nothing more.

Obviously the elephant knew what he was about. They know far more than most credit them.

Karma.

2naSalit

(86,748 posts)
105. See response to comment above...
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 03:50 PM
Dec 2015

Just got back from my 40 mile drive in a blizzard, had to help a friend and ended up sleeping on the sofa and now look what happened!

2naSalit

(86,748 posts)
104. It gets even better
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 03:48 PM
Dec 2015

when my fingers can spell, no?



Good catch, I was in a hurry to go drive 40 miles in a blizzard, wasn't fully concentrating!

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
77. i got nuthin for him.
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 02:22 PM
Dec 2015

if his family is not sociopathic like him, i feel bad for them in their grief of their relative.

as i feel bad for the millions of slaughtered elephants and THEIR loved ones in their grief.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
13. Unfortunately the animal will be slaughtered anyway.
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 01:10 AM
Dec 2015

But at least he took out one trophy hunter before that happens.

Tommy2Tone

(1,307 posts)
64. Yes indeed..
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 01:02 PM
Dec 2015

Another one of my favorites from her.

An old man went to a funeral. The preacher asked him "sir how old are you?" The old man responded "I am 87 years old." The preacher then said "there's no need of you going home."

Badda Bing

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
17. I tell ya, there are a lot of ways I would not want to die and being crushed to death is way
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 01:40 AM
Dec 2015

up there in the top 3.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
18. The elephant said...
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 01:41 AM
Dec 2015

"As long as you're estimating the size of my tusks. guess how much I weigh. What's that? Can't hear you. All I'm getting is some wheezing. Can you speak up?"

catnhatnh

(8,976 posts)
20. Think of the hubris involved...
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 01:42 AM
Dec 2015

...in walking up to a living animal to measure if it is big enough to kill.

 

TipTok

(2,474 posts)
23. I don't believe in Karma as an external force...
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 01:55 AM
Dec 2015

... but I do get a warm fuzzy from stuff like this.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
62. I was wondering if you would show.
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 12:51 PM
Dec 2015

Sometimes people go inactive on DU and they miss a thread that was tailor made for them.

But according to your profile you have 30,000 posts since 2007. So I should have known better.

DreamGypsy

(2,252 posts)
30. Damn. If I were a baby elephant...
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 03:02 AM
Dec 2015

...I wouldn't want this up on the wall:



The Dave Mallett song, You Say That The Battle is Over

With the wild in their eye
It is they who must die
And it is we who must measure the loss..



malaise

(269,157 posts)
49. My only regret is that the baby elephant
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 05:44 AM
Dec 2015

didn't take a selfie...and caption it - for all the elephants you killed for sport.
Freaking perfect.

Crunchy Frog

(26,610 posts)
70. Not like he was asking for it or anything.
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 01:37 PM
Dec 2015

If you don't want to get squashed by an elephant, don't go up to it to measure it for the slaughter. Fairly basic common sense.

Crunchy Frog

(26,610 posts)
78. slaughtering elephants is gross.
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 02:27 PM
Dec 2015

Slaughtering tame elephants is putrid.

Feeling sorry for "teh poor hunter", laughable. There are so many people so much more deserving of sympathy.

JMHO.

Inkfreak

(1,695 posts)
79. Well, I'll just check with you in the future to see who deserves what.
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 02:31 PM
Dec 2015

I'm sure you're contempt for him is comforting for his family, too.

TimeToEvolve

(303 posts)
81. a certain subculture of humans only exists to make the Earth shittier for all the other people.
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 04:39 PM
Dec 2015

the reactionary, dominator alpha-male culture is killing the planet and all other forms of life for its own shallow utility; all without a hint of scruples or empathy of those affected.

to see these dominators eat it when they finally reap the negative karma they willfully sowed should not evoke sympathy, but celebration; always curb your empathy when dealing with a sociopath.

Inkfreak

(1,695 posts)
95. Whoa! Finding a mans death sad is not defending poaching.
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 06:55 AM
Dec 2015

Get outta here with that silly ass shit. I find the cheering of his death gross. ymmv.

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
98. That said man went out to kill a baby elephant.
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 08:30 AM
Dec 2015

You're missing the key part of why people react the way they do in this thread.

RedCappedBandit

(5,514 posts)
86. Elephants are endangered. This was a human needlessly killing elephants.
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 10:15 PM
Dec 2015

Might be difficult for you to understand, but this isn't complicated.

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
55. Team Elephant!!!
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 07:50 AM
Dec 2015

Yay for the elephant! Measuring the little guy's tusks? Such a great ending to this story.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
66. I remember the nuns telling us all lives mattered that all of us were here for a reason...
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 01:12 PM
Dec 2015

I no longer believe that...clearly some people do more harm than good on the planet...and clearly some elephants were put here for a reason.

Crunchy Frog

(26,610 posts)
68. RIP
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 01:32 PM
Dec 2015

to all the elephants that he's slaughtered. I guess once in awhile, there's a little justice in the world.

Just kind of wondering what sort of elephant lets someone measure its tusks. I'm guessing this is a canned hunt of semi tame animals. Disgusting.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
76. maybe the other sociopathic murderer,
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 02:20 PM
Dec 2015

also known as the "client", will think twice...

elephants 1
murdering scumbag humans 0

and no i am not celebrating a human death, i am celebrating the survival of a beautiful sentient creature. the fact that baby had to kill in self defense was the result of a HUMAN decision.

Response to Egnever (Original post)

avebury

(10,952 posts)
87. I have zero sympathy for this low life.
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 10:33 PM
Dec 2015

He made his living slaughtering innocent animals all in the name of the all might dollar. He was part of the problem of the human race driving more and more species into extinction. Karma came a calling.

They only thing that would have made it better would have been if the Amereican who was paying for the guy to slaughter him a trouphy wasn't taken out by the elephant as well.

When it comes to big game trophy hunting my sympathy will always be on the side of the animals.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
96. Guy was an asshole, but I wouldn't go so far as to say he "deserved" this.
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 07:41 AM
Dec 2015

Rather, I just see it as nature doing its thing - this time the prey survived, while the predator didn't.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,362 posts)
100. Baby elephants have tusks?
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 08:45 AM
Dec 2015

It seems that tusks would get in the way of birth and nursing.

Anyone know the age when tusks erupt?

Anyway, Ian Gibson's head will look great stuffed and mounted on an elephant's wall.

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