And they finally outed that scammer OmahaSteve (update)

[Omaha Steve]

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for disability fraud with his false dementia claims, because he is still able to do things like make forum posts. Whoever created that site might have a legitimate disability claim, I would vouch for them, provided the authorities take away their internet privileges.

It seems I have dementia and still have a better mind than this POS!

OS

Update...I'm sure this is one of those from the other site. The story changed and wasn't consistent with the Act Blue books. When I had the info they stopped replying: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1311567

I retired: http://hr.cityofomaha.org/images/stories/public_documents/retirement/Civilian/2014/12-2014%20Minutes.pdf

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[rhett o rick]

1. Steve be proud that you these low-lifes disparage you. They are cowards hiding behind the

anonymity of the internet. They see you and the truth you share as a threat. They are bullies that try to use ridicule and mocking to silence those that don't meet their approval.

[passiveporcupine]

49. to silence those that don't meet their approval

Or who really really scare them.

[rhett o rick]

51. Good point. nm

[Autumn]

2. Steve, those assholes don't deserve a second thought from you and you don't need to explain anything

to those fucking low life pigs. Anyone who wants to know what Steve is talking about it's this nasty hate filled site that pretends to be Democrats, that support Hillary.

http://jackassradicals.com/forum/latest-news/387-omaha-steve-s-fake-dementia

[smiley]

35. I hadn't heard of this site...

They've seriously taken their politics to a new low. Truly sickening.

[abelenkpe]

45. Wow

Wish I'd never checked that link. 😞

[TheBlackAdder]

124. Same here. That is one dystopic site. It casts DSM-IV perversion akin to top Conservative sites. nt

[historylovr]

48. Oh. My. God.

[TIME TO PANIC]

55. So let me get this straight.

Some Clinton supporters actually have a website mocking Jackpine Radicals, where they talk shit about DU members who support Sanders? Are they all in junior high? How pathetic.

[Autumn]

57. You got that just right.

Beyond pathetic.

[LiberalElite]

62. Whoever of them that are on my ignore list

will stay there permanently. These are sick repulsive people.

[MissDeeds]

92. Agree on all counts

They are indeed sick and repulsive and should be banned from DU.

[Aerows]

71. They had set up another one

But in their lack of wisdom, most of the members used their DU names so we got the "opportunity" to see posts that were antisemitic and witness the discussion of how to effectively alert stalk DUers that support Bernie so that they are silenced.

So now, there are two places that they can gripe about how horrible DUers that support Bernie Sanders are.

[beam me up scottie]

82. Not just anti-Semitic, racist and homophobic as well.

Looking at the profile pictures posted at the new site it looks like more of the same bigotry, mocking Jews, lgbt people and PoC.

[Aerows]

98. Yep

Absolutely appalling displays of bigotry over there, same as on HCS. I'm sure they will continue denying it, but considering how much they know about DU, MIRT, and knowledge of well known Sanders supporters, they must think we are dumb as rocks over here.

[Autumn]

99. The avatar of Manny was really nasty.

[beam me up scottie]

102. Yep, first thing I noticed. They've hated him for years, now we know why.

[Autumn]

104. Reading those posts I understand where their hatred of Bernie is coming from.

A bunch of vile anti-Semitic trolls.

[beam me up scottie]

106. They're free to show their true colours there.

[Autumn]

108. They showed their colors, their asses, everything.

[William769]

86. Enough!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/110734060#top

[Aerows]

94. Oh please.

Did you think people wouldn't put two and two together when identical hit pieces and articles end up on the same site? In the About Us you make a reference to DU.

Not to mention that you folks are way to informed to be anything but DUers given how much you know about all of us.

I don't see a single person that is a DU Hillary supporter being mocked. But everybody mocked on there is certainly a Bernie Sanders supporter!

And in the same way you did it on the HCS site.

[William769]

97. Well I just laid it out for you.

You can believe what you want. I won't be the one looking like a idiot. I'm through here.

[Aerows]

100. I'll take that risk.

You know, you could always prove it, but I'm sure you are through here. Once again, it appears the kitchen got a bit too warm.

[NYC Liberal]

101. Sanders supporters have their own site as well, with similar content.

Same thing happened last primary season on both sides. It's par for the course.

[smokey nj]

109. This is a lie.

Trashing other sites or people who participate on other sites is not allowed at JackpineRadicals.

[NYC Liberal]

115. Not talking about that site

[Aerows]

111. Jackpineradicals is NOTHING

Like that site. The TOS at JPR strictly forbid bashing DU and DUers.

There is absolutely no comparison to be made and it is extremely disingenuous to imply they are the same.

[Autumn]

113. Jackpine is open for all to see. We do not allow trash talking about DU or DUers, there are no

hidden rooms where members post nasty shit and we do not allow DUers to be discussed and certainly not mocked. The content is certainly not similar, in any way shape or form.

[countryjake]

114. Link please?

I'm familiar with Jackpine Radicals and I would never have signed up there if it was a place to denigrate other DU members.

That place that has libeled Omaha Steve with lies about him also makes claims that certain DUers are pretending to be Black people or that certain DUers are insincere senile old women...its sole purpose is trashing other members of THIS community simply because of their choice of Democratic Presidential Candidates.

The day that bigotry and hate become "par for the course" amongst members of this community will be the day that I no longer support DU.

[NYC Liberal]

122. I'm not going to link to any such content, from any side.

It is out there and such sites are nothing new. There are also Facebook groups where DUers congregate -- I am not a part of that but I've seen it.

This stuff has happened on and off for years.

[countryjake]

129. I'm well aware that smear-DU offshoot groups have sprung up over the years ...

but you've specifically said that "Sanders supporters" have their own site to smear DUers, with similar content to that blasted place which sparked Omaha Steve to create this thread in the first place.

If there is such a place, why not name it, at least?

Your original comment, as it stands, makes it seem that the real Jackpine Radicals site is as vile and nasty as that disgusting take-off site is.

It most certainly is not and it's unfair to make such a comparison!

[NYC Liberal]

130. I never said that the Jackpine Radicals site had it,

although they do have a particularly vile thread accusing Bill Clinton of being a child rapist. So they don't have much class anyway.

[TIME TO PANIC]

118. I haven't seen anything slanderous about DU members on Jackpine Radicals.

[roody]

126. link please

[1StrongBlackMan]

3. Fuck them, Steve ... I just continue doing you for as long as you can. eom.

[Cassiopeia]

15. Well said

Fuck them, life is too damn short to worry about trolls like that.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

77. I could not agree more. Seriously, thank you.

[Metric System]

4. I denounce and reject this kind of behavior. Both sides need to chill.

[Autumn]

5. Both sides? That site wasn't started by a Bernie supporter

[Metric System]

9. I'm talking in general. There's plenty of bad behavior out there from Sanders supporters too.

[Autumn]

10. Sure.

[DirtyHippyBastard]

22. Bullshit. Prove it. Anything remotely as vile. Show me to be wrong. We both do it doesn't fly here.

[Autumn]

31. No, both sides don't do this. OS is a DUer and that site

was started by DUers, that's clear in the About Us section.

[Aerows]

33. Not to mention

this is the second such website set up for the purpose of mocking and belittling DUers - their fellow Democrats!

[Autumn]

36. A lot of that is very familiar isn't it. For them to go after Steve like that is beneath contempt.

A man who has done so much, even for Hillary. Pigs

[Texasgal]

32. I'm trying to understand

WHY this is even an issue between who you vote for in the primary???

This just looks like HATE. Very sad if you ask me. Fuck the primaries, we are human beings! UGH!

[draa]

66. Because they demand a purity test.

I've encountered it on DU and Kos quite a bit. You're either with Hillary Clinton or you're a Republican. I've heard them say that many times. Even going so far as to say Sanders isn't a Democrat because he used to be an independent and should be disqualified from running as a Democrat. Purity test plain and simple.

Her supporters are also pissed because they firmly believed it was her turn and just can't fathom how people would want someone else. That's the problem.

[madfloridian]

40. Whoa, ugliness like that can not be excused by primary choices...it's just plain vile and nasty.

It's sick.

[passiveporcupine]

53. Sorry...nothing like this

This is a sign of total assholery. And to accuse someone of disability fraud...a real person on this forum, is libel, if they didn't call their site a spoof and humor. It should still be libel. And while much of what is on that site is funny as hell when you consider what's behind it, that was not funny at all. And nothing on that site is really meant to be funny. They mean it from the bottom of their cold dark empty souls.

[rhett o rick]

16. I appreciate your first sentence and I believe you. Sadly you had to ruin it with the second

sentence that implies that both sides are doing this. That site is beyond the pale. I do not think for a minute that it represents the attitude or thinking of all HRC supporters, but does reflect some sentiments I've seen. Some believe that whatever it takes to win is ok.

[Aerows]

28. Please note that this is the SECOND

website that Clinton supporters have set up with no other intention but to mock and belittle their fellow Democrats on DU.

Do you know what the folks at the Sanders oriented site has to say about that type of behavior?

http://jackpineradicals.org/faq.php?faq=vb3_board_usage#faq_du

This:
Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people."
- Eleanor Roosevelt

Jackpine Radicals is about discussing good ideas and turning them into action. Attacking or complaining about other sites (or individuals on other sites) is a distraction, and diminishes our work. An occasional "It's great to see this site, Site X has become a swamp" is reasonable, but stuff like "Did you see what those idiots at Site X did?" are right out. Posts that violate this guideline will be deleted, and potentially action can taken against the poster. We ask that members point out problems of this sort to the offending poster, and report them to moderators for the good of our community."

From where I am standing, it is one side that is actively doing this to DU members.

[rhett o rick]

54. They hate us for our freedom and truths. nm

[a2liberal]

72. I honestly don't think that site is Clinton folks

Looks a lot more like the conservativecave crowd to me.

[beam me up scottie]

74. Of course it is, they link to the same right wing hit pieces on Jane Sanders posted here.

http://jackassradicals.com/forum/corrupt-jane

They have a whole forum dedicated to smearing Bernie's wife.

[Aerows]

78. Yes, they sure do. n/t

[Autumn]

89. They also whine about hides here too.

[Autumn]

76. No. The posts there are straight out of the complaint book here

about the people they lampooned and things that have been posted about Bernie and his supporters.

[Aerows]

81. Oh it most certainly is the same bunch.

They even allude to DU in the "About Us" section. They are saying the same exact types of things that they said on hillaryclintonsupporters.com They link the same articles.

[a2liberal]

116. Ok sorry

I think I see that now. I was just reacting with my gut feeling... the mock usernames and such reeked of caver to me at first blush.

[Aerows]

117. I can see why that would cause confusion.

I never in my wildest dreams would have imagined that Democrats would act this way just because other Democrats are supporting a different primary candidate.

[William769]

90. And which is the first?

[LiberalElite]

67. I'm glad you denounce and reject it but please drop the "both sides" bull -

The nasty behavior is heavily on the Clinton side.

[madokie]

6. You'll always

Be one of us
Worry not what the small people think, its the giants in this world who matter and you are one of the Giants. Don't ever forget that.

[Downwinder]

7. Steve, I don't know about you,

but speaking from 35+ years of MS, I have found the best therapy for the mind is to exercise it. DU is great therapy. Keep it up.

[rhett o rick]

8. With regard to the site that disparages Steve and mocks his illness, and mocks the memory of

JackpineRadical it and those that created it are the lowest of the low.

Sadly it looks like a lot of work went into that site. I personally have mixed feelings. I appreciate that I am hated by the crew that developed that site. I am fortunate that I have two mock-personalities there, rhett o ridiculous and RhettTheIdiot. They must have spent some time stalking me (I've been getting about a frivolous alert every couple of days) as they know that I often complain about the Oligarchy that they worship. I have lived a long time and had a lot of experience with bullies. The best way to deal with bullies is to laugh at their low-life mockery attempts. Keep to the upper road, they hate that.

This kind of low-life crap is what the People are fighting. It's typical of the wealthy 1% to fight dirty because they always get what they want (can buy). But we the People will prevail. Vote Sanders, vote for honesty.

[panader0]

13. I'm jealous that I wasn't mocked too.

[rhett o rick]

18. I do understand. nm

[liberalhistorian]

105. Me too! Perhaps

I should step up my Sanders support and post on it more often, lol.

Clinton and her supporters are pulling the same entitled "I/she is owed your vote and I/we demand that you give it" shit they did in '08. I remember all the names they called those of us who supported Obama, O-bots being the mildest. And I'm also seeing the same clueless, tone deaf, vindictive, thin-skinned bullshit also. I'd have thought they'd have learned better lessons than that from '08.

[panader0]

11. Steve..... way to go!

You must have pissed somebody off.

[msanthrope]

12. Steve....you and I disagree on much. If you need my legal advice, tell me. nt

[rhett o rick]

21. I appreciate your response. nm

[awoke_in_2003]

107. You are one

of my favorite DUers

[DirtyHippyBastard]

14. What a cowardly thing to do. Attacking from the shadows proves they are vile.

Steve, you are a hero to more than a few here. We love you and wish you the best. Fuck those who would say otherwise.

[mythology]

80. That isn't fair

They would be cowards even if they did this here.

If possible, the people behind that should be banned for DU.

[dreamnightwind]

17. I hope you didn't mind

that I brougt that post to the attention of others here. I did so because I was so outraged. You are one of our very best and I mentally thank you every day at least once for your posts.

Keep on truckin', things are looking up for Bernie, in part due to your efforts. Give 'em the truth and let 'em think it's hell.

[Omaha Steve]

23. Not at all

Right now somebody is squirming, and it ain't me. They are

[dreamnightwind]

43. Great, and sorry I didn't ask you before posting, didn't occur to me.

I hope we find out who the person, people, or corporate "persons" are that made that site.

[Aerows]

19. I laughed about some of the things they said about me

I don't give two shits what people who are juvenile enough to set up a website to mock others think about me. I seriously doubt that they could possibly come up with anything to say about me that I haven't heard before!

What they said about you, though, Steve, honestly that pissed me off.

Creating an entire website to mock and personally attack fellow Democrats because they prefer a different Democratic candidate than they do - seriously? It's mind boggling.

It certainly says a hell of a lot more about those participating in it than anything they say about anybody else, and what it says is not flattering.

[Autumn]

24. The rest was silly and childish, the post about OS crossed a line.

[Aerows]

37. I absolutely agree

It crossed the line so far, the line isn't even in the rear view mirror any more.

[Autumn]

41. I think that the posters they went after there is a real tell as to who they are.

Stop and think about it.

[Aerows]

59. It's patently obvious

I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that it was started by the same group that created hillaryclintonsupporters.com to mock DUers, and they had to close parts of the forum because they were saying the same kinds of things over there under their DU names. I suppose once the antisemitic post was made and allowed to stand, and the ones bragging about alert stalking DUers, things got too hot for them to handle.

Considering the users they have apparently targeted, one site to bash DUers that want to vote for Bernie Sanders in the primary wasn't enough for them.

I like politics, and I support Bernie - but I wouldn't dream of starting up a website just to mock Hillary supporters.

To be fair, though, I don't have to since Hillary and her campaign are shaping up to be perfectly capable of making a mockery without anyone interfering. Every where I look on the internet, I see comments like this.

[kath]

103. FWIW, that site hcsupporters.com was startedby William769, and he has stated here several times that

That he is proud of it.
Jurors - others have linked to those posts here on DU in the past -both that he started that first site, hillaryclintonsupporters.com, and posts saying that he was proud that he had done so. This is not an original call/out on my part-- it is part of the DU record. In fact he admits starting it in a current thread in the protected HRC group

[rhett o rick]

26. I also laughed. They put in a lot of work and I welcome their ridicule. I do not like their

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ridicule of some others like Steve and Calif Peggy. Ridicule me all you want but leave the nice people alone.

We are dealing with bullies. They get their kicks out of hurting people. The best remedy is to not accept their hurt. Keep the upper road and expose them for what they are. Cowards.

[Odin2005]

20. What a bunch of assholes!

[wilsonbooks]

27. Steve, thank you for everything that you do.

And those cowardly cretons can go fuck themselves.

[daleanime]

29. Screw them....

[retrowire]

30. Meanwhile on Jackpine Radicals

we have the self respect to not allow our community to become one that primarily exists to bash other online communities.

Because we have a common goal that is to get Bernie to the White House!

Those who create and make such elaborate websites like that, are truly insane and not worth anyones time.

Remember, the internet contains everyone. Think about that.

So in the eternal words of Iron Chef Geoffrey Zakarian... Don't suffer fools. We love you OS!

[navarth]

44. Yup. Jackpine Radicals has way more class than that.

[hobbit709]

34. I wonder who those people really are.

And in which group they post mostly here.

[beam me up scottie]

52. Seems like it's been really quiet here yesterday and today.

Things that make you go hmmmm...

[hobbit709]

56. Whois says site was registered Dec. 31, 2015

and they were smart enough to keep the info private. Probably because the HRC supporters one wasn't private.
But the hosting site has been hit with hundreds of complaints.

[Autumn]

60. It has been quiet. Almost like people are taking time off... or something.

[hobbit709]

61. I found this interesting as to who someone else is TRYING to blame.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/110734060

[Autumn]

63. OMG.

[LiberalElite]

68. "Started by someone who hates Hillary"

OH the denial is STRONG there.

[Aerows]

91. Oh for goodness's sake

They can sit there and deny it all day long, but it is plain as day who is involved in that site. Same articles, same hit pieces, same old shit they were saying on the other site before they were discovered. At least this time, they weren't dumb enough to use their own DU names.

[Change has come]

121. Such Drama! (from the link)

Skinner must be so proud

[merrily]

38. Steve, you don't owe anyone a thing and certainly not your personal info. Please consider self-

deleting or deleting at least the personal stuff.

[dorkzilla]

58. Merrily is right Steve...you really ought to delete it

Who knows what scum like that is capable of? They sure seem angry in a psychopathic kind of way. Political bunny-boilers.

[Omaha Steve]

64. Breitbart & the Conservative Cave posted all my info when I ran for office

That is how probably one of these DUers got me upset with the "OS has been targeted for termination" personal email 6 weeks ago or so.

This info is nothing.

OS

[dorkzilla]

70. Fuck, dude I'm sorry

Lots of shitty people doing shitty things. You're a good man. It's really unfair.

[merrily]

73. Dorkzilla, you replied to me, not to the OP.

[dorkzilla]

79. Whoopsie

What do you want from a dumbass like me?

[merrily]

93. Everything, but you keep telling me you're married.

[dorkzilla]

110. For you, I could forget for an hour or two... :)

[paleotn]

39. illegitimus non carborundum....

....Steve, to receive that kind of hate, you're doing something right. Keep it up, big guy. We've got your back.

[dorkzilla]

42. Their true colors are showing Steve

Fuck em. It's all just petty jealousy. Look how pathetic it is that they spent all that time just to build a site full of hate. They're worse than Trump supporters--because these people hold themselves out as Democrats. They're not fooling anyone.

They don't deserve your time or attention.

[TIME TO PANIC]

46. That is pretty damn low, they need to get a life.

They have no shame.

[navarth]

47. That site is pathetic.

What a circle jerk. And they're too cowardly to use their DU names. Pffft. Hardly worth thinking about.

[countryjake]

50. It's embarrassing & a shame on our entire DU community...

that some of our members stooped to such a level with that site...why someone felt that it was cool or funny to denigrate you in that way reeks of fanatical wingnuts, nasty to the core, with a wicked penchant to spread lies.

You've no need to prove yourself to any of us here...you are a precious DUer who never fails to contribute in positive ways and I only wish you the best (and many more years of posting!).

[WillyT]

65. Hey OmahaSteve... You've Gotten Under Their Reptilian Skin... If I May...

Don't you dare pay attention to the withered souls on that site.

You are greatly loved and appreciated here, and have many loving friends.

Those ghouls have a zero life... you are a light in our lives.





And BTW... Fuck 'Em.

[Autumn]

69. "withered souls" God I love you Willy

[WillyT]

119. Thanks... I Love You Too...

[MrMickeysMom]

88. Plus a Jillion!!!!

[WillyT]

120. Oh Come On... You Know I Love You...

[DisgustipatedinCA]

75. Steve, you have my complete support--your word carries more weight than any form.

There are some true degenerates playing vicious Internet games, but every one of us here is rock-solid behind you.

[CharlotteVale]

83. I thought only Republicans could be that low. Fuck 'em.

[Jackilope]

84. They are assholes. Not worth a seconds worth of thought.

Please do not be troubled by the likes of them. What they post says an infinite amount about them, not those they are trying to ridicule.

OS, you inspire so many here. Keep shining on.

[MrMickeysMom]

85. It looks like the lull of posts from the usual suspects here...

... allowed at least one of them (the sight looks like it's mainly posted by one) to busy themselves into spewing vitriol while pounding their fists into the air. They must be really angry at us for some reason. I'm thinking it's because they're a group of angry fucking assholes.

Bitterness opens up an awful lot of sites like this to exist. Believe me, Steve, they will cannibalize themselves.

[Warpy]

87. You don't have to prove anything to anyone here.

People enjoy your posts and that's all there is.

I am, however, amazed by how small minded conservatives are, no matter which party they're in.

[FSogol]

96. +1. Agreed. n/t

[SusanCalvin]

95. Wow. What a childish site. nt

[Bluenorthwest]

112. Don't let such small minded people bother you Steve, the derision of fools is a badge of honor.

Comes with the territory.

[nadinbrzezinski]

123. Fancy plaque the PD gave you there

so those guys cannot even still give you even a paper award? They deserve not one second of your time my friend. Serious.

[SandersDem]

125. If I can find their address

do I have permission to send them a bag of d***s?

[Live and Learn]

127. Sorry Steve, it is a disgusting site and its members should be ashamed of themselves.

You are doing an excellent job and we all appreciate your hard work.

[Mnpaul]

128. You didn't deserve this Steve

and I wouldn't have bothered proving them wrong. If anything, you deserve recognition and praise here for you fundraising efforts.

[LostOne4Ever]

131. Proud to kick and rec this! NT

[one_voice]

132. Locking..

Doesn't meet SoP for GD.

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Update...I'm sure this is one of those from the other site. The story changed and wasn't consistent with the Act Blue books. When I had the info they stopped replying: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1311567