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OMFG! The Palins want privacy re Track who beat up his girlfriend (Original Post) malaise Jan 2016 OP
Until it's a matter of public record (courts, etc) the Palins are as entitled to privacy Proserpina Jan 2016 #1
It is already public record malaise Jan 2016 #4
Putting the Palins aside, the gory details should not be made public CommonSenseDemocrat Jan 2016 #8
When you commit a violent crime ToxMarz Jan 2016 #10
Difference between arrest information and the offense report being public CommonSenseDemocrat Jan 2016 #54
Journalistic ethics concerning withholding name and information in reporting consider these criteria ToxMarz Jan 2016 #65
DV victims belong on that list CommonSenseDemocrat Jan 2016 #66
It's fair game.... FarPoint Jan 2016 #12
Domestic violence should be as much a public record subject to public discussion as... Human101948 Jan 2016 #14
LOL...let me guess, you think Maduro is dreamy right? snooper2 Jan 2016 #40
An inherent right to privacy in regards to criminal behavior? LanternWaste Jan 2016 #59
For the alleged victim, yes CommonSenseDemocrat Jan 2016 #61
Hey! If you can't get another reality show, demand privacy. merrily Jan 2016 #2
Good one...LOL LOL onecent Jan 2016 #17
Poor victims LuvNewcastle Jan 2016 #3
I could see that one coming from my porch pinboy3niner Jan 2016 #5
You betcha! Fantastic Anarchist Jan 2016 #6
Isn't he an Iraq war veteran? JonathanRackham Jan 2016 #7
He was a delinquent before he enlisted jberryhill Jan 2016 #11
he guarded General's in kuwait, another string pulled roguevalley Jan 2016 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author RandiFan1290 Jan 2016 #9
Well, Ms. Palin TNNurse Jan 2016 #13
Yep ProfessorGAC Jan 2016 #55
K&R! stonecutter357 Jan 2016 #15
Compassion-PTSD erpowers Jan 2016 #16
I agree. cwydro Jan 2016 #18
"Misfortune"? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2016 #49
I'll agree with you on that one. cwydro Jan 2016 #51
"Track"..."Tripp" is... SkyDaddy7 Jan 2016 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author erpowers Jan 2016 #57
No, he should be given therapy along with WatchWhatISay Jan 2016 #21
he never saw combat roguevalley Jan 2016 #33
Huh? malaise Jan 2016 #41
Fuck that. You beat women, you take your fucking medicine. Iggo Jan 2016 #50
What specifically leads you to believe that? LanternWaste Jan 2016 #60
From What I Know erpowers Jan 2016 #63
He saw no combat AwakeAtLast Jan 2016 #68
I was watching the news this morning, with Sarah and Trump onstage together. Fuddnik Jan 2016 #19
But thats the way he likes his women WatchWhatISay Jan 2016 #23
Seriously - I saw the look malaise Jan 2016 #42
It irritates the fuck out of me that this family of grifters is in our faces AGAIN Nay Jan 2016 #22
Sleazy detail from the police report Divernan Jan 2016 #24
Drunk by 9 p.m. at Bristol's house with small kids Divernan Jan 2016 #26
There were also little kids present when he and others in his family had a drunken brawl Tanuki Jan 2016 #36
Considering that Bristol is in a custody fight with her second baby-daddy, Tanuki Jan 2016 #52
Was he armed when the police got there? ecstatic Jan 2016 #38
Saw that malaise Jan 2016 #43
Track tried to pick up my daughter in a Wasilla bar. panader0 Jan 2016 #25
But he's been "with" the girl he beat up for a year. Divernan Jan 2016 #27
Looks like your daughter is an intelligent woman malaise Jan 2016 #44
Where is the film crew from the show "Cops", when you need them! Siwsan Jan 2016 #28
"Cops" doesn't film in the suburbs d_legendary1 Jan 2016 #31
In my book of definitions, the Palin family's photo is next to the word 'rif-raf'! Siwsan Jan 2016 #34
Public figures are far game in the media. General rule. glinda Jan 2016 #29
Protecting the abuser left-of-center2012 Jan 2016 #30
failin quiter, in typical grifter fashion is stalling for time so she can use her sons arrest Javaman Jan 2016 #35
She's get her new wardrobe no matter what malaise Jan 2016 #45
Track and Field Palin needs some time in prison... joeybee12 Jan 2016 #37
If you want privacy, SoCalDem Jan 2016 #39
Whot's gun was it?? If it was Sarah's shouldn't it have been secured? If Tracks should it be hollowdweller Jan 2016 #46
Probably the family stash malaise Jan 2016 #47
Of course they do. He beat up his girlfriend. Iggo Jan 2016 #48
Unfortunately he didn't get the help he needs. onecaliberal Jan 2016 #53
These crazies almost made it to the Whitehouse? UCmeNdc Jan 2016 #56
I was thinking that. Can you imagine them in the WH? jwirr Jan 2016 #64
Sounds like another family afflicted by the Affluenza epidemic gohuskies Jan 2016 #58
figures... Blue_Tires Jan 2016 #62
And now she's blaming Obama for Track's behavior suffragette Jan 2016 #67
 

Proserpina

(2,352 posts)
1. Until it's a matter of public record (courts, etc) the Palins are as entitled to privacy
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 08:12 AM
Jan 2016

as anyone else.

 
8. Putting the Palins aside, the gory details should not be made public
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 09:08 AM
Jan 2016

But America is a very sensationalist country.

ToxMarz

(2,169 posts)
10. When you commit a violent crime
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 09:34 AM
Jan 2016

And are a danger to yourself and others in society, the details are of relevant public interest

 
54. Difference between arrest information and the offense report being public
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 12:40 PM
Jan 2016

The victim gets revictimized when the offense details are public.

ToxMarz

(2,169 posts)
65. Journalistic ethics concerning withholding name and information in reporting consider these criteria
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 03:05 PM
Jan 2016

Is it or are they:

Rape/Sexual Assault Victims - Nope

Juveniles - Nope

Breaking news (when family may not have been notified) - Nope

Suicide - Nope

Kidnap victims/journalists - Nope

Mass killers (to avoid giving them notoriety) - Nope

People facing intolerance in their societies - Nope (well maybe?)

Information involving public safety, security and military operations - Nope

Public vs private people - they are definitely of the Public variety - Nope

 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
14. Domestic violence should be as much a public record subject to public discussion as...
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 09:47 AM
Jan 2016

any other felonious assault. This shows how much we need to address the problem of mental illness as well.

Alaska has the nation's highest rate of men murdering women, more than double the U.S. average, according to a study released Monday by Violence Policy Center.

The study said that 2.57 of every 100,000 women in the Last Frontier were murdered by men in 2012 -- more than double the national average of 1.16. That represents nine women murdered in Alaska under circumstances involving only one female victim and one male murderer.

"One is too many," Gov. Sean Parnell said in response to the numbers.

The study used data collected from the FBI's Supplementary Homicide Report. According to the data, the average age of women killed in Alaska in 2012 was 41. Four were shot -- none with a handgun, according to the study -- three were killed with knives "or other cutting instruments," and one was killed using blunt force. One was not accounted for in the study.


http://www.adn.com/article/20140909/study-alaska-has-nations-highest-rate-women-murdered-men

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
59. An inherent right to privacy in regards to criminal behavior?
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 01:37 PM
Jan 2016

You are suggesting an inherent right to privacy in regards to criminal behavior?

Response to malaise (Original post)

TNNurse

(6,929 posts)
13. Well, Ms. Palin
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 09:46 AM
Jan 2016

If you want privacy.....shut up, stay out of politics and making public statements.

Does she not understand the two are related????

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
16. Compassion-PTSD
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 09:58 AM
Jan 2016

I am not trying to say you are not being compassionate toward Tripp Palin, but I think we need to proceed with compassion for Tripp Palin in that he may be dealing with PTSD. I do believe he spent time in Iraq, or Afghanistan. I am certain he is an Army veteran. This seems like at PTSD incident. He really should be given his privacy in dealing with this issue.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
49. "Misfortune"?
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 12:27 PM
Jan 2016

Misfortune is your house burning down because of bad wiring or a car accident on an icy road.

This family reaps everything they sow. The kid was an asshole long before he went overseas, if he in fact ever got near the front lines.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
51. I'll agree with you on that one.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 12:34 PM
Jan 2016

But I'm not going to cheer when peoples' lives go sideways.

He's obviously screwed up, but I just can't laugh about it.

Response to SkyDaddy7 (Reply #20)

WatchWhatISay

(3,426 posts)
21. No, he should be given therapy along with
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 10:25 AM
Jan 2016

whatever legal penalties are appropriate. His privacy is not what he needs.

Iggo

(47,565 posts)
50. Fuck that. You beat women, you take your fucking medicine.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 12:29 PM
Jan 2016

I have absolutely zero compassion for woman beaters.

Fuck.Those.Motherfuckers.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
60. What specifically leads you to believe that?
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 01:38 PM
Jan 2016

" This seems like at PTSD incident."

What specifically leads you to believe that?

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
63. From What I Know
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 01:52 PM
Jan 2016

I read a report that said he threatened to kill himself with an AR-15. I realize he was drunk at the time, but it seems that a number of men and women who have been deployed overseas have returned with problems. Track Palin is an Army veteran, who spent a year in Iraq.

AwakeAtLast

(14,133 posts)
68. He saw no combat
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 10:47 PM
Jan 2016

So, according to you, if MY Iraq War Veteran husband (who does have PTSD) hits me, HE deserves compassion? No, he would deserve jail time.

Besides, you can't just say it's PTSD, it has to be diagnosed. Sarah is not a doctor.

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
19. I was watching the news this morning, with Sarah and Trump onstage together.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 10:14 AM
Jan 2016

Last edited Wed Jan 20, 2016, 10:56 AM - Edit history (1)

The look on his face said, "How long do I have to endure this illiterate twit".

Nay

(12,051 posts)
22. It irritates the fuck out of me that this family of grifters is in our faces AGAIN
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 10:26 AM
Jan 2016

for another election year. GO AWAY. And BTW, if you want privacy, stop getting into trouble and stop endorsing candidates.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
24. Sleazy detail from the police report
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 10:40 AM
Jan 2016

As per 4 paragraph limit, does not include references that he got drunk at "his sister's house" before driving (drunk) to his parents' house Also the police report does not indicate anyone else was present in Sarah & Todd's house when the police showed up.

The incident happened in Wasilla, Alaska, and according to police records, Track Palin, 26, was charged with three misdemeanors including assault in the fourth degree, interfering when the girlfriend tried to report him for domestic violence and possession of weapons in the fourth degree while he was intoxicated.

Court records show that police responded to two 911 calls that came in around 10 p.m. on January 18 at Sarah and Todd Palin's residence. The first call that came through was from the victim. She called the police to report that Track had punched her in the face and he was armed with a gun. The second caller was Track Palin who apparently tried to stop the police from coming as he reported that the woman who had just called them was drunk.

When the police arrived, they found Mr. Palin standing outside talking on the phone. They noticed that he had an injury to his right eye, his eyes were bloodshot, and he smelled of alcohol. Police describe Mr. Palin as “uncooperative, belligerent, and evasive.” They placed Track under arrest because his behavior continued to become more hostile and they had yet to find the victim.

When police searched the residence, they discovered the victim hiding under the bed crying. She told police that Track hit her with closed fists near her eye and then he “held a rifle to his head and threatened to kill himself. During their investigation, they discovered that when Track allegedly punched his girlfriend in the face, he left the area around her left eye bruised and swelled. The girlfriend also told police that Track kicked her in the right knee and it was hurting.


http://www.examiner.com/article/sarah-palin-s-son-arrested-for-domestic-violence-and-suicide-threat

Tanuki

(14,920 posts)
36. There were also little kids present when he and others in his family had a drunken brawl
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 11:27 AM
Jan 2016

at a party a few months ago. You can hear a child wailing in the background in the audio of Track's foul-mouthed statement to the police who were called to the scene.
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/10/sarah-palin-alaska-brawl-party-bristol-palin-track-palin-todd-palin-willow-palin/

panader0

(25,816 posts)
25. Track tried to pick up my daughter in a Wasilla bar.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 10:44 AM
Jan 2016

She said he was drunk and obnoxious. This was a couple of weeks ago.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
27. But he's been "with" the girl he beat up for a year.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 10:46 AM
Jan 2016

And he was pissed at her because she'd maintained contact with a former boyfriend.

malaise

(269,157 posts)
44. Looks like your daughter is an intelligent woman
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 11:51 AM
Jan 2016

I can see it - drunk and obnoxious - one more entitled scumbag.

d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
31. "Cops" doesn't film in the suburbs
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 11:06 AM
Jan 2016

They usually film in the hood or in the trailer parks. You know, where the riff-raff live.

Siwsan

(26,291 posts)
34. In my book of definitions, the Palin family's photo is next to the word 'rif-raf'!
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 11:10 AM
Jan 2016

That family would make a better comedy series, than a reality show.

glinda

(14,807 posts)
29. Public figures are far game in the media. General rule.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 11:04 AM
Jan 2016

Does not matter if PTSD, alcohol related or whatever.
Have at it I say. The family has so many problems and hopefully they will eventually fade into the sunset.

Javaman

(62,534 posts)
35. failin quiter, in typical grifter fashion is stalling for time so she can use her sons arrest
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 11:25 AM
Jan 2016

to her advantage.

so don't bother her now, she's a schemin"!

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
37. Track and Field Palin needs some time in prison...
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 11:34 AM
Jan 2016

That first deal Caribou Barbie made to keep him out of prison didn't give him any maturity.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
39. If you want privacy,
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 11:42 AM
Jan 2016

You do NOT seek a public...highly visible job..

Sorry Sarah, you cannot have it both ways..

 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
46. Whot's gun was it?? If it was Sarah's shouldn't it have been secured? If Tracks should it be
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 12:06 PM
Jan 2016

Removed by law enforcement.

If he is convicted do they take his guns?

onecaliberal

(32,896 posts)
53. Unfortunately he didn't get the help he needs.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 12:37 PM
Jan 2016

His parents should probably be home helping him, not parading around the country with a bigot.

UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
56. These crazies almost made it to the Whitehouse?
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 12:48 PM
Jan 2016

If John McCain had died look at who would succeed him as a President. Talk about a bigggggggg mistake!

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
64. I was thinking that. Can you imagine them in the WH?
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 03:04 PM
Jan 2016

Drunken brawls, girl friends hiding under the Lincoln bed, etc. We would be the laughing stock of the world.

gohuskies

(1,157 posts)
58. Sounds like another family afflicted by the Affluenza epidemic
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 01:31 PM
Jan 2016

The Palins can dish the crap out but certainly don't feel rules apply to them. Just a bunch that have passed on narcissism along generationally. No one should ever take these yokels seriously.

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