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Dawson Leery

(19,358 posts)
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 06:00 PM Jan 2016

'Biden: We don't need 'socialism': from Kos this time

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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/1/20/1472653/-Biden-We-don-t-need-socialism

"Vice President Biden on Wednesday offered criticism of "socialism" during a speech abroad, seemingly a shot at Bernie Sanders, a self-described democratic socialist and Democratic candidate for president.

Biden made the remark in a keynote address at the World Economic Forum in Switzerland, where he called for "a more progressive tax code" and a strengthening of the middle class.

"Keeping billions of dollars in offshore tax havens might be good for your shareholders, but it robs your own country," Biden told those in attendance at the international event."
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'Biden: We don't need 'socialism': from Kos this time (Original Post) Dawson Leery Jan 2016 OP
Go, Joe! Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #1
Yeahup, what we have right now.... daleanime Jan 2016 #2
Yeah. When he says "we" don't need socialism... tecelote Jan 2016 #5
Stop! demmiblue Jan 2016 #3
Watch out, the world is changing. Socialist is not as bad as neo-liberal hawk to me. tecelote Jan 2016 #4
^ This StandingInLeftField Jan 2016 #6
When he said something taken as vaguely anti-Hillary... Mike Nelson Jan 2016 #7
The Party of Davos Octafish Jan 2016 #8
We already have socialism: Medicare,SS,Medicaid,Military,Interstate,snowplow on your road,etc. Vinca Jan 2016 #9
corporate bailouts. SammyWinstonJack Jan 2016 #10
Gee . . . how'd I forget the BIG one. Especially corporate bailouts. Vinca Jan 2016 #11
LOCKING THREAD LostOne4Ever Jan 2016 #12

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
1. Go, Joe!
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 06:02 PM
Jan 2016

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
2. Yeahup, what we have right now....
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 06:03 PM
Jan 2016

is working so well.


Just in case

tecelote

(5,140 posts)
5. Yeah. When he says "we" don't need socialism...
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 06:11 PM
Jan 2016

he isn't talking about us.

demmiblue

(37,647 posts)
3. Stop!
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 06:05 PM
Jan 2016

tecelote

(5,140 posts)
4. Watch out, the world is changing. Socialist is not as bad as neo-liberal hawk to me.
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 06:07 PM
Jan 2016

"The phrase -- according to the vice president's office, not a specific reference to Sen. Bernie Sanders, the Vermont senator who identifies as a democratic socialist but caucuses with Democrats -- was embedded in a larger speech that hit some of Biden's most frequently touted policies: economic fairness, boosting the middle class and encouraging corporate responsibility."

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But with Democratic voters increasingly rallying around Sanders, according to polls in Iowa and New Hampshire, the phrase could soon appear out-of-date.

In a recent Des Moines Register/Bloomberg poll in Iowa, more likely Democratic caucus-goers -- 43% -- identified as "socialist" rather than identifying as "capitalist."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/20/politics/joe-biden-davos-socialism/

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6. ^ This
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 06:14 PM
Jan 2016

"Never before in all our history have these forces been so united against one candidate as they stand today. They are unanimous in their hate for me—and I welcome their hatred.” - Franklin Delano Roosevelt

Mike Nelson

(10,209 posts)
7. When he said something taken as vaguely anti-Hillary...
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 06:15 PM
Jan 2016

...it was a major news story. This is not being covered as much... haven't seen a peep from the spinning heads. They are reporting the Sanders "surge"!

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
8. The Party of Davos
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 06:16 PM
Jan 2016

by Jeff Faux
www.thenation.com/, February 13, 2006/ via ThirdWorldTraveler.com

EXCERPT...

Americans are of course prominent members of this "Party of Davos," which relies on the financial and military might of the US superpower to support its agenda. In exchange, the American members of the Party of Davos get a privileged place for their projects--and themselves. Whether it's at Davos, at NATO headquarters or in the boardroom of the International Monetary Fund, heads turn and people listen more carefully when the American speaks.

"Davos Man," a term coined by nationalist scholar Samuel Huntington, is bipartisan. To be sure, Democrats tend to be more comfortable with the forum's informal seminar-style and big-think topics like global poverty, cultural diversity and executive stress. Bill Clinton goes often, and Al Gore, John Kerry, Robert Rubin, Madeleine Albright, Joe Biden and other prominent Democrats are familiar faces. Republicans generally prefer more private venues. George W. Bush, of course, doesn't do anything unscripted. But people like Dick Cheney, Newt Gingrich, John McCain and Condoleezza Rice have all worked the Davos circuit.

That the global economy is developing a global ruling class should come as no shock. All markets generate economic class differences. In stable, self-contained national economies, where capital and labor need each other, political bargaining produces a social contract that allows enough wealth to trickle down from the top to keep the majority loyal. "What's good for General Motors is good for America," Dwight Eisenhower's Defense Secretary famously said in the 1950s. The United Auto Workers agreed, which at the time seemed to toss the notion of class warfare into the dustbin of history.

But as domestic markets become global, investors increasingly find workers, customers and business partners almost anywhere. Not surprisingly, they have come to share more economic interests with their peers in other countries than with people who simply have the same nationality. They also share a common interest in escaping the restrictions of their domestic social contracts.

The class politics of this new world economic order is obscured by the confused language that filters the globalization debate from talk radio to Congressional hearings to university seminars. On the one hand, we are told that the flow of money and goods across borders is making nation-states obsolete. On the other, global economic competition is almost always defined as conflict among national interests. Thus, for example, the US press warns us of a dire economic threat from China. Yet much of the "Chinese" menace is a business partnership between China's commissars, who supply the cheap labor, and America's (and Japan's and Europe's) capitalists, who supply the technology and capital. "World poverty" is likewise framed as an issue of the distribution of wealth between rich and poor countries, ignoring the existence of rich people in poor countries and poor people in rich countries.

CONTINUED...

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Ruling_Elites/Party_Davos.html

That was from 2006 -- before the crash and the Great Bankster Bailout. Who got made whole, 100-cents on the dollar? Who got bankrupted and tossed from their homes?

In the richest times in human history: It's Welfare for the Wealthy. Austerity for the Masses.

Vinca

(50,737 posts)
9. We already have socialism: Medicare,SS,Medicaid,Military,Interstate,snowplow on your road,etc.
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 06:23 PM
Jan 2016

and those are the things in this country people like the most.

SammyWinstonJack

(44,147 posts)
10. corporate bailouts.
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 06:43 PM
Jan 2016

Vinca

(50,737 posts)
11. Gee . . . how'd I forget the BIG one. Especially corporate bailouts.
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 06:45 PM
Jan 2016

LostOne4Ever

(9,550 posts)
12. LOCKING THREAD
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 03:16 AM
Jan 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025307978

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