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RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 11:09 PM Jan 2016

FFS: Oregon standoff: Grant County sheriff urges release of Hammonds

Too bizarre for comment ...

http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/01/post_2.html

BURNS – Leaders of the armed protesters holding the national bird sanctuary on Tuesday plan to push their anti-government agenda in Grant County, whose sheriff recommends the government give in to two of their key demands.

Sheriff Glenn Palmer said in a statement to The Oregonian/OregonLive that "the government is going to have to concede something" to end the occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.

He said freeing a father-son ranching team from prison "would be a start. Sending the FBI home would be a start." He referred to the FBI's lead role in ending the refuge occupation.

"I just pray to God that cooler heads prevail and that no one gets killed," Palmer said.

The sheriff's endorsement of the militants' demands stunned law enforcement officials, most who would not publicly discuss the matter.

Malheur County Sheriff Brian Wolfe, who has been helping in Burns, said Palmer's position "doesn't help the cause. If anything, it hampers the effort to end this.
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FFS: Oregon standoff: Grant County sheriff urges release of Hammonds (Original Post) RKP5637 Jan 2016 OP
I guess Glenn doesn't care about his oath of office. He needs to resign. hobbit709 Jan 2016 #1
+1 daleanime Jan 2016 #2
+1, n/t RKP5637 Jan 2016 #3
I'd expect that Oregon sheriffs are elected cheapdate Jan 2016 #4
They are elected here too..... dixiegrrrrl Jan 2016 #6
WTF is going on there??? Initech Jan 2016 #5
Glenn Palmer is a 'Constitutional Sheriff' pinboy3niner Jan 2016 #7
He sounds just like them. Baitball Blogger Jan 2016 #10
Oath Keepers are batshit crazy. Initech Jan 2016 #12
But he's also the legal Sheriff. He has feet in both camps. n/t pnwmom Jan 2016 #17
This is madness. Baitball Blogger Jan 2016 #8
IMO exactly what is going to happen. It's like the feds are giving them rope to start some RKP5637 Jan 2016 #18
Yes, he is with them. Baitball Blogger Jan 2016 #19
Exactly! The DLC has been a great boost to the republican party, ever marching rightward, failing RKP5637 Jan 2016 #20
Well look who it is... Wilms Jan 2016 #9
How about we trade him El Chapo and a future draft pick? immoderate Jan 2016 #11
I like it! Initech Jan 2016 #13
Well, maybe the dildo militia should head on up to Grant County where they'd get a better reception. greendog Jan 2016 #14
lol flamingdem Jan 2016 #15
electing a new sheriff who understands what his damned job is would be a start CBGLuthier Jan 2016 #16
He's on the right track but with the wrong people. hollowdweller Jan 2016 #21
Well said!!! Agree!!! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2016 #22
Seeing every militant there killed would be a vastly preferable outcome to any concessions geek tragedy Jan 2016 #23
This should have been stopped early on, instead they are letting it grow and grow. RKP5637 Jan 2016 #24

cheapdate

(3,811 posts)
4. I'd expect that Oregon sheriffs are elected
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 11:20 PM
Jan 2016

just like they are here in TN. Only requirement is a high-school diploma. Win the vote and you're the sheriff. Doesn't require that you have any knowledge whatsoever about US jurisprudence. Our county sheriff is a complete dumb-ass.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
6. They are elected here too.....
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 11:23 PM
Jan 2016

In one of the 4 big cities in Ala. I was in, during a Sheriff race, I saw a billboard which said
" Vote for X for Sheriff. He's never been indicted".

True story.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
7. Glenn Palmer is a 'Constitutional Sheriff'
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 11:29 PM
Jan 2016

A group closely allied with the sov cit movement and the Oath Keepers and other "Patriot" groups.

Baitball Blogger

(46,735 posts)
8. This is madness.
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 11:29 PM
Jan 2016

Do you all understand that there are anti-government factions all over this country who are salivating at the glands because they plan to follow in their footsteps if they succeed?

Palmer should be recalled.

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
18. IMO exactly what is going to happen. It's like the feds are giving them rope to start some
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 10:36 AM
Jan 2016

kind of anti-government civil war of sorts. Palmer, what a nutty statement, guess he must be with them.

Baitball Blogger

(46,735 posts)
19. Yes, he is with them.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 11:21 AM
Jan 2016

President Obama said the the Republican party, today, is unrecognizable. What hasn't been said is that this faction of the Republican party has been slowly infiltrating every level of the right-wing anti-government core. Most Repubs are too stupid to realize what they have aligned with.

But Democratic DLC types are the worst because they think they have to go along with them, to get along. They are just enablers.

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
20. Exactly! The DLC has been a great boost to the republican party, ever marching rightward, failing
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 11:31 AM
Jan 2016

to comprehend they are missing the electorates wants. Instead, the DLC looks at bullies for guidance on how they should proceed. It has been a reckless venture! Depending on how the pendulum swings in 2016, we could see a dystopia for many citizens in the 21st century. Many, IMO, fail to recognize the cycles in history.

 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
9. Well look who it is...
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 11:30 PM
Jan 2016
Sheriff Stands Up To Democrats, Promises Not To Enforce Gun Control Measure

He called the proposed bill "borderline treasonous."

snip

During a recent hearing on the issue, Palmer described the bill as “borderline treasonous” and received some support from participants including National Rifle Association lobbyist Dan Reid.

snip

http://www.westernjournalism.com/sheriff-stands-democrats-promises-not-enforce-gun-control-measure/

greendog

(3,127 posts)
14. Well, maybe the dildo militia should head on up to Grant County where they'd get a better reception.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 01:48 AM
Jan 2016

They could occupy the county courthouse and commandeer various police and fire vehicles to drive around town.

 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
21. He's on the right track but with the wrong people.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 11:42 AM
Jan 2016

I totally agree that mandatory minimums are wrong.

However a lot of these guys supported republican candidates that put these policies in place.

Reagan was the president who passed legislation where they do "sting" operations, essentially luring a person into committing a crime and then busting them for it.

Reagan also ushered in widespread drug testing in the US.

Bush the Patriot act? Where were all the libertarians and militias then.

Whenever I hear a RW person saying the dems are going to take their guns I remind them that a LOT of the ways they could identify and round up guns without breaking the law were passed by the GOP.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
23. Seeing every militant there killed would be a vastly preferable outcome to any concessions
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 11:58 AM
Jan 2016

being granted.

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
24. This should have been stopped early on, instead they are letting it grow and grow.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 12:02 PM
Jan 2016

I would like to think the feds have some type of plan they're following, but more and more it's a WTF!

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