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RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 06:59 PM Jan 2016

Excellent!!! Grand jury indicts leader behind Planned Parenthood videos

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/01/25/planned-parenthood-videos-grand-jury-indictment/79318450/?csp=breakingnews

AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — A Texas grand jury investigating Planned Parenthood has indicted two anti-abortion activists who covertly shot videos of the organization.

Harris County District Attorney Devon Anderson announced Monday that Center for Medical Progress founder David Daleiden was indicted on a felony charge of tampering with a governmental record and a misdemeanor count related to purchasing human organs. Another activist was also indicted on a charge of tampering with a governmental record.
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Excellent!!! Grand jury indicts leader behind Planned Parenthood videos (Original Post) RKP5637 Jan 2016 OP
K&R Tarheel_Dem Jan 2016 #1
I wonder what Carly's reaction, if any, will be. n/t lamp_shade Jan 2016 #2
Rut roh gratuitous Jan 2016 #7
I can picture her reaction... pinboy3niner Jan 2016 #10
This is huge malaise Jan 2016 #3
Was O'Keeffe involved in that video? Kingofalldems Jan 2016 #4
Freeperville is having a collective meltdown over this. markpkessinger Jan 2016 #5
I can't look, thanks for looking. Be careful of looking too much, it starts RKP5637 Jan 2016 #8
Oh GOD MY EYES retrowire Jan 2016 #19
It's incredible, isn't it? They ramble on about the subject as if the films were real. They want.. BlueJazz Jan 2016 #35
quick--do you need a drink? a de-lousing shower? a nap? you brave, brave soul!! niyad Jan 2016 #45
I looked at it rather as if I were going to the circus! markpkessinger Jan 2016 #46
a very good viewpoint. niyad Jan 2016 #47
K&R! brer cat Jan 2016 #6
Kick n/t malaise Jan 2016 #9
This should be the leading Prime Time news story malaise Jan 2016 #11
It certainly should be!!! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2016 #12
Kick. Kingofalldems Jan 2016 #13
In Texas, no less. Kber Jan 2016 #14
I was amazed by that! Good for Texas!!! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2016 #15
We do good things here. kentauros Jan 2016 #24
I tend to think if its outside of Austin, its right wing but it really isn't Jim Beard Jan 2016 #29
I can't figure out Corpus Christi, either. kentauros Jan 2016 #31
I lived (briefly) in Houston Kber Jan 2016 #34
There's no pain here. kentauros Jan 2016 #37
I meant the pain of people assuming things about your state Kber Jan 2016 #38
Okay, sorry for the assumption on my part. kentauros Jan 2016 #39
I really liked Sylvester. I first heard him speak at a TEXAS Freedom News discussion at the 2002 Tex Jim Beard Jan 2016 #43
Plus those elections are in the "OFF" years Jim Beard Jan 2016 #42
Great, may they yuiyoshida Jan 2016 #16
Yep, they deserve the worst!!! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2016 #17
The Crowbar Hilton awaits them. nt hifiguy Jan 2016 #18
Their indictments will help Planned Parenthood's law suit sinkingfeeling Jan 2016 #20
AND strip Center for Medical Progress's Tax Free C3 status misterhighwasted Jan 2016 #25
K&R! G_j Jan 2016 #21
K & R ...... Wounded Bear Jan 2016 #22
I rarely say this but... PERFECT!!! n/t 63splitwindow Jan 2016 #23
Here's a Wash. Post article about the same thing: spooky3 Jan 2016 #26
The AP wire story by Paul J. Weber pointed out about CMP: pinboy3niner Jan 2016 #28
"none of whom are scientists or physicians" -- that says it all! n/t spooky3 Jan 2016 #32
K&R... spanone Jan 2016 #27
So how were the videos considered "government records?" dumbcat Jan 2016 #30
They weren't - TBF Jan 2016 #33
I always thought that they had altered and edited the videos to make it look like dumbcat Jan 2016 #36
Like I said very clearly - I have not seen anything TBF Jan 2016 #41
Looks like it was the ID cards dumbcat Jan 2016 #48
Just re-read and found that - TBF Jan 2016 #49
"purchasing human organs" Quayblue Jan 2016 #40
Good. n/t Megahurtz Jan 2016 #44
Governor Texas was quick to assert that the state protects all human life Orrex Jan 2016 #50

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
7. Rut roh
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 07:41 PM
Jan 2016

But can you believe her incredible luck? Because she's (1) completely irrelevant to today's political scene; and (b) heavily insulated by Republican Amnesia, Ms. Fiorina will not be asked about her mulish stubbornness in clinging to her story about a non-existent videotape. By the time these yahoos are convicted in Texas for their shenanigans in two thousand ten and five, there will be hardly a man alive who remembers that Carly Fiorina existed or that she hitched her political wagon to his black dwarf star.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
19. Oh GOD MY EYES
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 08:58 PM
Jan 2016

They're complaining that the prosecutors didn't bother to look at the videos.

The videos were proven to be highly edited and false.

Why don't they acknowledge this?

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
35. It's incredible, isn't it? They ramble on about the subject as if the films were real. They want..
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 10:07 PM
Jan 2016

...to believe something that's just not there.

malaise

(269,049 posts)
11. This should be the leading Prime Time news story
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 08:07 PM
Jan 2016

People were killed as a result of their criminality and the pandering by self-interested politicians and media hacks.

Kber

(5,043 posts)
14. In Texas, no less.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 08:27 PM
Jan 2016

And not the republic of Austin. Harris County!

Time to repeat my prediction that Texas goes blue by 2024.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
24. We do good things here.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 09:26 PM
Jan 2016

But, because Texas is DU's favorite to bash and hate, such things usually get ignored as not helping the hate-mongering paradigm.

By the way, Austin isn't nearly as liberal as everyone still seems to think. From looking at voting maps, while Houston is most definitely purple, Austin is becoming less blue with every election. San Antonio is the bluest and most liberal city in the state. Think Cisneros

 

Jim Beard

(2,535 posts)
29. I tend to think if its outside of Austin, its right wing but it really isn't
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 09:51 PM
Jan 2016

its the inner cities of Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, Austin and El Paso that vote Democratic. Forth Worth and Corpus Christi votes RED

I haven't figured out Corpus Christi except maybe the Naval station, having a large vote of republicans and also TEXAS Gerrymandering.

I course the burbs, rural counties and the smaller cities like Amarillo, Lubbock, Midland, Abilene, Whiticha Falls and others are what carry the day for the Republicans.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
31. I can't figure out Corpus Christi, either.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 09:56 PM
Jan 2016

However, we do have a couple of DUers from there that tell us they're doing their best to change it

Now, if you look at this map, you'll see that all of the rural counties along the Rio Grande vote Democratic, too. East Texas (i.e., West Louisiana) probably accounts for most of Redneckistan in Texas, and their crazy reps.


Kber

(5,043 posts)
34. I lived (briefly) in Houston
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 10:03 PM
Jan 2016

It is a diverse state that, imo, sends republicans to government more because of gerrymandered than a true reflection of the population.

And, as a NJ resident, I feel your pain, but we will keep on keeping on.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
37. There's no pain here.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 10:15 PM
Jan 2016

We just elected another Dem to mayor (Sylvester Turner) so that's always helpful and hopeful.

Yes, gerrymandering is a big problem here, as is the case all across the country. We just have to wait for court cases challenging them to work their way up through the system, as usual.

Houston is also the most diverse city in the country, and that's helping to change things for the better. The good ol' boys are moving further and further outside the city limits and allowing us to get bluer.

It's not painful living here at all.

Kber

(5,043 posts)
38. I meant the pain of people assuming things about your state
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 10:19 PM
Jan 2016

Without real knowledge.

No insult intended.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
39. Okay, sorry for the assumption on my part.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 10:24 PM
Jan 2016

And yes, it got tiring years ago. I tell people here from time to time that I'm tempted to start naming their state any time something bad happens there. Such as "Wisconsin. Figures." "Ohio. Nuff said." "Washington. (eye-roll)" but I don't think they'd get the nuance

 

Jim Beard

(2,535 posts)
43. I really liked Sylvester. I first heard him speak at a TEXAS Freedom News discussion at the 2002 Tex
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 11:11 PM
Jan 2016

Democratic Convention in Texas. Very impressive then.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
25. AND strip Center for Medical Progress's Tax Free C3 status
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 09:33 PM
Jan 2016

This is a damn big deal today.
Texas no less.
Couldn't happen to a more corrupt bunch of a**holes.
MSNBC just had a short segment on it & I hope its addressed in tonight's CNN Town Hall.

Kudos to PP

Wounded Bear

(58,664 posts)
22. K & R ......
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 09:09 PM
Jan 2016

Put these assholes away for a good long time. I long to see more RW assholes perp-walked die to their bullshit tactics.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
28. The AP wire story by Paul J. Weber pointed out about CMP:
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 09:48 PM
Jan 2016
Despite the lofty name of the Center for Medical Progress, public filings suggest only a small number of people are affiliated with the nonprofit, none of whom are scientists or physicians engaged in advancing medical treatments. The people named as its top officers are longtime anti-abortion activists with a history of generating headlines.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/grand-jury-indicts-leader-planned-parenthood-videos-36512019

TBF

(32,064 posts)
33. They weren't -
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 10:01 PM
Jan 2016

if you have a quote and cite bring it here because all I can find is this from the NYTimes:

"Another center employee, Sandra Merritt, was indicted on a felony charge of tampering with a governmental record." http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/26/us/2-abortion-foes-behind-planned-parenthood-videos-are-indicted.html?ref=topics

Merritt was indicted for tampering with a governmental record. To my knowledge they have not released what "governmental record" was tampered with. If you can find that I'd love to see it.

dumbcat

(2,120 posts)
36. I always thought that they had altered and edited the videos to make it look like
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 10:09 PM
Jan 2016

PP was selling stuff they shouldn't. It was all over DU, talking about the "edited video", "changed video", and "lies."

If that wasn't it, what was the government record that was altered to make the videos edited, altered, or lies? I'm confused.

TBF

(32,064 posts)
41. Like I said very clearly - I have not seen anything
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 10:50 PM
Jan 2016

that indicates what "governmental record" they are talking about. I don't think that has been released yet. If you can find it let me know. People say all kinds of things on DU - I'm only interested in facts that have been verified.

The article states:

On Monday, the Harris County district attorney, Devon Anderson, said in a statement that grand jurors had cleared Planned Parenthood of any wrongdoing. She declined to provide details about the case against Mr. Daleiden and Ms. Merritt, including any documents or evidence presented to the grand jury, citing state law on the secrecy of grand jury proceedings.


dumbcat

(2,120 posts)
48. Looks like it was the ID cards
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 11:57 PM
Jan 2016

Way down in the NYT article you cited:

"The record-tampering charges appeared to involve their use of fake identification."

That seems a bit of a stretch. It doesn't involve the accuracy of the videos. Something else must be going on.

TBF

(32,064 posts)
49. Just re-read and found that -
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 08:23 AM
Jan 2016

yes, you're correct. That's all I can find. At this level it's just the grand jury indicting. All they have to do is determine whether charges can/should be brought. I believe (not a lawyer - hoping someone will chime in here to add or correct info) that more charges can be added after indictment. I've seen words to the effect that prosecutors will only put up the minimum info they need to get the indictment. After that they can compel documents/testimony for the trial.

Orrex

(63,215 posts)
50. Governor Texas was quick to assert that the state protects all human life
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 08:26 AM
Jan 2016

He was lying, of course, but I'm sure that it plays well to a certain segment of the constituency.

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