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davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 07:52 PM Jan 2016

Netherlands plans to give refugees lessons on the LGBT community

People living in asylum centers in The Netherlands are to be given lessons about the Dutch LGBT community, the country’s education minister has announced.

In an interview with daily newspaper Trouw, Jet Bussemaker pledged to introduce educational measures to make it clear that anti-gay discrimination will not be tolerated in the country.

The ministry plans to supply asylum centers with LGBT teaching materials—currently provided to Dutch secondary schools—within the next few weeks and it will be up to each individual center to provide lessons and discussion groups.

“We should not be naive,” Bussemaker told the newspaper. “Refugees come from countries where gay rights are not a matter of course and where women’s rights are not always accepted.”

In late 2015, Dutch authorities decided to relocate five LGBT refugees—three Syrians, one Iraqi and one Iranian—out of an asylum center after they were spat on and attacked by other refugees, Amsterdam-based daily newspaper Het Parool reported on December 4. The attacks compromised their safety, forcing them to stay in their rooms.


http://www.newsweek.com/refugees-be-given-lessons-about-dutch-lgbt-community-419204?rx=us

Do people really think this is going to work?
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Netherlands plans to give refugees lessons on the LGBT community (Original Post) davidn3600 Jan 2016 OP
Was thinking there could be quite a few saltpoint Jan 2016 #1
I've read about classes to educate the rfugees about respecting women. cwydro Jan 2016 #2
Yep... its going to take a long long time to change things you were taught by GummyBearz Jan 2016 #11
... Bonx Jan 2016 #3
That's exactly what I thought of. n/t alarimer Jan 2016 #9
they can make it a double-header with the "please don't rape" seminar nt geek tragedy Jan 2016 #4
Unfortunately, I doubt it'll pan out VulgarPoet Jan 2016 #8
some of the refugees are lgbt so it would help them in knowing they have certain JI7 Jan 2016 #5
For most, I don't think it will work davidn3600 Jan 2016 #6
Unfortunately, I think you're right. smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #10
They don't have to change their views SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #13
I hope it works Marrah_G Jan 2016 #7
I suppose they can at least say they tried something when the inevitable happens MowCowWhoHow III Jan 2016 #12
Much like in the US military? LanternWaste Jan 2016 #15
Yes MowCowWhoHow III Jan 2016 #16
Combined with a stern talking-to, I'm sure it will work superbly. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2016 #14
A very good idea hifiguy Jan 2016 #17

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
1. Was thinking there could be quite a few
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 07:54 PM
Jan 2016

fundie megachurch communities here in the Ui.S. in dire need of the same education.

It's too bad Allen Ginsburg isn't around to lead the instruction sessions.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
2. I've read about classes to educate the rfugees about respecting women.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 07:56 PM
Jan 2016

Now this.

Gonna be hard to educate people how to live in the 21st century. Many do not want to learn.

 

GummyBearz

(2,931 posts)
11. Yep... its going to take a long long time to change things you were taught by
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 12:02 PM
Jan 2016

your parents, and reinforced by your grandparents, and put in practice where you lived for 20-40 years..... this shitty situation won't change over night. It wont even change in this generation. I guess you have to try something, but catching up on the last 700 years of civility is gonna be hard.

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
8. Unfortunately, I doubt it'll pan out
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 11:40 AM
Jan 2016

If the DoD can't teach a bunch of Soldiers, Marines, Airmen, and Sailors to not rape with four four-hour briefings a year on the subject, I doubt the Dutch will get much traction here with the refugees.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
5. some of the refugees are lgbt so it would help them in knowing they have certain
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 08:05 PM
Jan 2016

rights and freedoms in those countries that they didn't where they came from.

and it can't hurt with the others. let them know certain things are not acceptable there and if they violate it they are to be held accountable.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
6. For most, I don't think it will work
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 08:12 PM
Jan 2016

I once got into an argument with a Jesus nut about homosexuals. He was getting so angry it looked like he was about to hit me.

I don't think some of these folks who are highly religious can be "educated." They have fully accepted the teachings of their religion and have grown up with it. And a lot of them are willing to die for it.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
10. Unfortunately, I think you're right.
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 12:02 PM
Jan 2016

Most people cannot be educated out of their deeply ingrained prejudices. I doubt very much a few classes will change their views or behavior.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
13. They don't have to change their views
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 12:24 PM
Jan 2016

They just have to understand that if they act on those views in a criminal manner, they will be held criminally liable.

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