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Rachel Maddow could well be the leader of a charge that results in the MI gov losing his job (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Jan 2016 OP
He will resign malaise Jan 2016 #1
Finding someone to take charge of the rebuilding of Flint has to be a priority. femmocrat Jan 2016 #2
I was very impressed with her too. Smart gal and no pushover...nt monmouth4 Jan 2016 #3
Plus she was positive and hopeful at the end, which was KIND lostnfound Jan 2016 #6
Yes. Flint needs her to be as good as she sounds. Hortensis Jan 2016 #14
Nitpick. "Woman", not "gal" A gal is a girl. She is a grown woman. yellowcanine Jan 2016 #20
Not really, the definition of 'gal' is : Bluenorthwest Jan 2016 #33
Good God, that city was turned in a fucking plantation, complete with overseers Stinky The Clown Jan 2016 #4
That's the gods' own truth. May the adherents of ALEC see job loss at a minimum and jail time.... Hekate Jan 2016 #5
Not just that city. All the black majority cities in Michigan, according to pnwmom Jan 2016 #13
Look at Detroit. A major American city, allowed to Hortensis Jan 2016 #16
Detroit is now on the rebound. Perhaps Flint could shoot for being Detroit, Jr. KamaAina Jan 2016 #19
What would that cost and how many people would it employ? NT 1939 Jan 2016 #22
Maybe we could get the Koch brothers to pay for it. KamaAina Jan 2016 #24
The geographic advantages that caused them to form Hortensis Jan 2016 #27
The Great Lakes themselves have long been the region's ace in the hole KamaAina Jan 2016 #28
Yup. All the more reason to vote Democrat Hortensis Jan 2016 #29
Watching this town hall and made me so outraged on behalf of our fellow Americans in Flint. myrna minx Jan 2016 #7
As I watched, the phrase "Black Lives Matter" kept going through my head Stinky The Clown Jan 2016 #8
Black Lives Matter - FLINT. This has been on my mind since I heard of Flint. myrna minx Jan 2016 #10
and so do the lives of the poor whites and other minorities malaise Jan 2016 #15
Actually, the OC does have pockets of poverty KamaAina Jan 2016 #25
Losing his job? Lemme ask you this. lonestarnot Jan 2016 #9
He should consider it a career transition to a job more suited for his skills mythology Jan 2016 #11
$200 million. moondust Jan 2016 #12
He had a First Premier Credit Card and six cases of empties before he took office. Atman Jan 2016 #23
He had a big executive career and then founded a venture capital company and then an investment Bluenorthwest Jan 2016 #34
She started long ago warning of the 'emergency manager' crap Maeve Jan 2016 #17
She is awesome. Highway61 Jan 2016 #18
Is anyone discussing the removal of the emergency managers? Atman Jan 2016 #21
At least getting rid of the law. moondust Jan 2016 #31
The power appoint an overseer for cities financial trouble isn't unusual SpartanDem Jan 2016 #35
If anyone ever deserved to lose his job, this bozo does. EndElectoral Jan 2016 #26
Just like in the bridgegate matter, Rachel is doing great reporting here Gothmog Jan 2016 #30
She's doing amazing work. Vinca Jan 2016 #32

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
2. Finding someone to take charge of the rebuilding of Flint has to be a priority.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 10:08 PM
Jan 2016

That mayor of Flint, Karen Weaver, looks like a capable candidate.

lostnfound

(16,180 posts)
6. Plus she was positive and hopeful at the end, which was KIND
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 11:15 PM
Jan 2016

She ended by saying that this problem was GOING to be fixed because America was not going to let this situation go unsolved. I'm sure the people in Flint felt hope and support after two years of being ignored.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
14. Yes. Flint needs her to be as good as she sounds.
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 08:43 AM
Jan 2016

And those who blocked her - we need them gone, ideally in prison. Go, Rachel! And Michael Moore!

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
33. Not really, the definition of 'gal' is :
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 04:49 PM
Jan 2016

Definition of gal: girl, woman.

In common US English 'gal' is the counterpart to 'guy' which is also not age specific.





Stinky The Clown

(67,808 posts)
4. Good God, that city was turned in a fucking plantation, complete with overseers
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 10:49 PM
Jan 2016

Holy Fucking Hell.

Goddamned fucking Kochsuckers.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
5. That's the gods' own truth. May the adherents of ALEC see job loss at a minimum and jail time....
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 11:02 PM
Jan 2016

....for those who ordered this and other fiascos.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
13. Not just that city. All the black majority cities in Michigan, according to
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 08:07 AM
Jan 2016

one of the people there.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
16. Look at Detroit. A major American city, allowed to
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 08:52 AM
Jan 2016

lose all its industry to white flight, without investment to bring in new, and allowed to fail -- by a Michigan state government that colluded in and aided the abandonment of...Detroit! Nothing is so incredible and unlikely that it is not possible and is not happening somewhere.

I believe strongly that citizens have an absolute duty to monitor what our public officials do with the power we give them and to remove it for poor performance and malfeasance. In a nation this size, expelling people from office should not be uncommon.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
19. Detroit is now on the rebound. Perhaps Flint could shoot for being Detroit, Jr.
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 12:56 PM
Jan 2016

Although it doesn't have as many advantages as the D does (all that architecture!), it does have a University of Michigan campus to work with. Perhaps it could reach back into its automotive past and set up a gigantic car museum, maybe with an assembly line still running.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
27. The geographic advantages that caused them to form
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 01:14 PM
Jan 2016

mostly still exist, I imagine. With global warming and drying up of rivers and aquifers, I suspect the day'll come when many people won't be able to afford to live in Detroit.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
28. The Great Lakes themselves have long been the region's ace in the hole
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 01:16 PM
Jan 2016

some in the parched West are already hungrily (thirstily? ) eyeing that water.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
29. Yup. All the more reason to vote Democrat
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 01:18 PM
Jan 2016

for necessary infrastructure development, and I do not mean giant canals.

LOL. Yesterday I was in a small boat where truly giant freshwater springs come up in an estuary right off the Gulf of Mexico, creating a places where manatees can be warm all year round. I swear I couldn't enjoy the beautiful scenery the way I should for cringing at the unbelievable amounts of fresh water lost to the sea. Just like when we're visiting people who leave faucets running but worse. I have PTSD from drought.

myrna minx

(22,772 posts)
7. Watching this town hall and made me so outraged on behalf of our fellow Americans in Flint.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 11:28 PM
Jan 2016

I wish there was something I could do. Something like this would NEVER happen in Orange County Ca or Edina Minnesota.

I'm sick of our citizens, especially those of color, treated as disposable.

Stinky The Clown

(67,808 posts)
8. As I watched, the phrase "Black Lives Matter" kept going through my head
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 12:22 AM
Jan 2016

I realize there may be some issues with applying that phrase to this, but, when you think of all the places that FUCK, Snyder, installed "Emergency Managers", the phrase seems apros pos.

myrna minx

(22,772 posts)
10. Black Lives Matter - FLINT. This has been on my mind since I heard of Flint.
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 12:42 AM
Jan 2016

BLM is not only about punitive law enforcement, BUT ALSO about horrible oversight of basic infrastructure. What happened in Ferguson, showed white America the crushing, punitive, disturbing reaction of law enforcement to civil protests and now white America is now having to confront the purposeful lead poisining of a generation of children in Flint Michigan.

This was by design and it's disturbing. Black Lives Matter. Snyder need to resign.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
25. Actually, the OC does have pockets of poverty
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 01:09 PM
Jan 2016

in its larger cities like Anaheim, Santa Ana and especially Garden Grove, much of which is gang turf.

 

lonestarnot

(77,097 posts)
9. Losing his job? Lemme ask you this.
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 12:34 AM
Jan 2016

Does a person who intentionally damages a life forever get a get out of jail free pass?

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
11. He should consider it a career transition to a job more suited for his skills
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 01:05 AM
Jan 2016

Perhaps something in the prison woodworking shop, or scrubbing toilets in prison (preferably with his own toothbrush). I'd even settle for working in the prison library.

He shouldn't get the option of resigning. He should be impeached, indicted and based on the available evidence convicted along with the town's emergency manager and anybody else responsible.

Unfortunately the rest of the country will be stuck footing the bill for this, but I think as much as possible should be coming out of Snyder's personal bank account as he caused this.

moondust

(19,993 posts)
12. $200 million.
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 01:50 AM
Jan 2016

Last edited Thu Jan 28, 2016, 02:25 AM - Edit history (1)

I read somewhere that's what he's worth. I have no idea where he got it. That would indeed buy quite a bit of new water pipe and continuing medical care for his victims. He also has some billionaire pals who helped him get elected such as the DeVos family of Grand Rapids.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
23. He had a First Premier Credit Card and six cases of empties before he took office.
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 01:06 PM
Jan 2016

Funny how that works.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
34. He had a big executive career and then founded a venture capital company and then an investment
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 05:01 PM
Jan 2016

company. Big Money all the way.

Maeve

(42,282 posts)
17. She started long ago warning of the 'emergency manager' crap
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 09:20 AM
Jan 2016

And how the preponderance of towns taken over just happen to be not only poor but majority-black

Highway61

(2,568 posts)
18. She is awesome.
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 12:34 PM
Jan 2016

That scumbag should be in jail. Despicable. He knew and did nothing = genocide. How can he sleep at night?

Atman

(31,464 posts)
21. Is anyone discussing the removal of the emergency managers?
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 01:04 PM
Jan 2016

Maybe I missed that part. A Republican wet dream, "Emergency Managers" who got to rule without any consequence, authoritarian profiteers unburdened by pesky regulations and laws. How did this ever even be allowed to happen?

moondust

(19,993 posts)
31. At least getting rid of the law.
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 02:09 PM
Jan 2016

At Rachel's town hall it was explained that a public referendum or something voted to get rid of the law but then Snyder and the legislature went to work and reinforced it and made it so the law could not be repealed by a referendum. Something odious like that. I believe Michael Moore also prioritized getting rid of the law when he was on Lawrence O'Donnell's show last night. It's a prescription for malfeasance and tyranny.

SpartanDem

(4,533 posts)
35. The power appoint an overseer for cities financial trouble isn't unusual
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 05:19 PM
Jan 2016

the law passed by Snyder gave much broader powers to those people than pre-existing law. And it's very much broaded conditions in which could be used. Prior the 2012 law it was something that only been used a handfull of time in the state

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