Ammon And Ryan Bundy Denied Bail

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by Conrad Wilson OPB | Jan. 29, 2016 3:59 p.m. | Portland, Oregon

A judge at the federal courthouse in Portland Friday denied bail to three of the militants arrested near Burns earlier this week in connection with the armed occupation at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.

Judge Stacie Beckerman denied bail to both Ammon and Ryan Bundy, saying both defendants are a flight risk and a danger to the community. Beckerman also denied bail for Ryan Payne.

The judge granted bail to a fourth defendant, Joseph O’Shaughnessy, however federal prosecutors appealed the decision. As a result, a ruling on O’Shaughnessy’s release has been stayed until Tuesday.

The remaining six defendants stayed to have their detention hearings when the court took a break Friday afternoon ...

http://www.opb.org/news/series/burns-oregon-standoff-bundy-militia-news-updates/ammon-and-ryan-bundy-denied-bail/

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1. Ammon Bundy, Oregon occupation organizer, denied bail alongside his brother

Prosecutors mined Oregon occupiers' social media for evidence against them
Thomson Reuters Posted: Jan 29, 2016 7:00 PM ET Last Updated: Jan 29, 2016 7:00 PM ET

... Ammon and his followers made ample use of social media and videos to summon armed recruits to join their takeover of a wildlife refuge and to declare their readiness to stand their ground. Now federal authorities are using the occupiers' own words against them.

Two criminal complaints unsealed this week against the 11 protesters under arrest show that FBI agents have carefully scrutinized social media postings, interviews and online talk shows that were broadcast from the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge during the siege that began nearly a month ago ...

A day after the takeover began, for example, a video posted on a website showed Bundy saying the group planned to stay for several years. He called on people to "come out here and stand," adding: "We need you to bring your arms."

A video posted Jan. 4 showed another defendant, Jon Ritzheimer, saying he was "100 per cent willing to lay my life down" ...

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ammond-ryan-bundy-bail-1.3426536

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2. Ammon Bundy and other Oregon militia leaders to stay behind bars without bail

‘Sam Levin in San Francisco and Matthew Berger in Portland
Friday 29 January 2016 19.54 EST

... “It is not that we don’t respect the government,” Ammon Bundy said during the hearing. “In fact, it is just the opposite. I’m a federalist … My only desire is to protect freedom.” He also argued that the protest wasn’t violent: “There was never an armed standoff” ... Five other defendants had not yet had their hearings as of last Friday afternoon ...

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jan/29/oregon-militia-standoff-ammon-bundy-jail-bail-malheur-national-wildlife-refuge

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3. Latest demands from the Yee Hawdists still occupying the refuge

The last holdouts in the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge standoff say they now want pardons for everyone involved before they'll leave the headquarters where they're holed up behind police roadblocks.

"Before we leave, every single one of the people involved in this operation should be pardoned," occupier David Fry said in a feed posted to YouTube just before noon Friday.

http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/01/as_oregon_standoff_drags_on_ee.htm

Yeah, that's gonna happen.

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5. "... Sean Anderson said the group is not going to negotiate with the FBI at this time, and

and they are prepared to wait until all their supplies are depleted. He also said that the militants don't plan to shoot at law enforcement unless they are shot at first ..."

Militants Say Negotiations With FBI Stall At Malheur Refuge
By OPB STAFF • 42 MINUTES AGO

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4. Well, what do you know?

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6. Prosecutors: The Bundys Pose “Substantial Danger to the Citizens of Harney County”

By Aaron Mesh
Updated 1:37 PM
Published 1:13 PM

... The motion, filed by U.S. Attorney for Oregon Billy Williams, says Bundy and his followers pose flight risks, lack ties to Oregon, and aren't likely to comply with pretrial supervision because they don't believe the federal government has any legal authority over them.

Williams also argued the Bundys are likely to try to take over the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge again ...

Among the most interesting revelations in the motion filed by prosecutors: Ryan Payne, the security chief at the Malheur occupation, explained himself to FBI agents after his Tuesday arrest.



http://www.wweek.com/2016/01/29/prosecutors-the-bundys-pose-substantial-danger-to-the-citizens-of-harney-county/

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7. Ammon Bundy Tells Oregon Court He Wants to ‘Preserve Freedom’

By COLIN MINER
JAN. 29, 2016

... One of Ammon Bundy’s lawyers, Lissa Casey, set the stage for her colleagues by stating that the occupation, which seeks the return of federal lands to local or private control, should be viewed in the context of political protests such as the Boston Tea Party and the decision of four black men to sit at a Woolworth counter in Mississippi in 1960 ...

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/30/us/ammon-bundy-tells-oregon-court-he-wants-to-preserve-freedom.html?_r=0

[Mendocino]

8. As it should be.

If they are bailed they would almost certainly go underground. They would disappear into the prepper/rural background, some fellow lunatics would give them their hunting cabin or such to live in, provide sustenance and cover.

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9. They could appeal to the higher court...

The Constitution prohibits excessive bail.

I suppose they could make that argument?

The laws are made for all of us, including militiamen...

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10. They may argue howsoever they like but there is under current understanding

no absolute right to bail in every case: defendants may be detained without bail for various reasons, including the likelihood they will not appear for trial or the possibility they will do further mischief on release