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" the FBI said they wouldn't do this"
"do we have enough guns"
"got one shot gun here, another one over there"
"where did I put the other gun'
sounds of racking guns now
Developing
Takket
(21,574 posts)Response to tencats (Original post)
uppityperson This message was self-deleted by its author.
Egnever
(21,506 posts)Said they weren't coming out till they all got pardons. Said there was no point coming out just to get arrested.
Flying Squirrel
(3,041 posts)uppityperson
(115,677 posts)tencats
(567 posts)again "FBI said they woudn't do this"
on the phone "get the word out"
cheapdate
(3,811 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Kiona
@kionaatplay
Kiona Retweeted Alean
Nearly inaudible but Sandy's convinced drones have come to kill them. Theyre smoking a bowl #standby #Oregonstandoff
8:25 PM - 29 Jan 2016
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)"It's the fbi comin' in to get us. They promisded they wouldn't do that"
geomon666
(7,512 posts)uppityperson
(115,677 posts)geomon666
(7,512 posts)uppityperson
(115,677 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)and cute to boot
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Gregorian
(23,867 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)but better than the cooking channel, though much lower production values
kentauros
(29,414 posts)uppityperson
(115,677 posts)War is peace.
tencats
(567 posts)"just like they did to record Lavoy's murder"
"four vehicles broke our road block"
"one looks like a troop carrier"
"they are behind us"
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)"remote control drone"
"very quiet out"
Good lord, what paranoia, beware anyone else out there, these guys are way overdone.
"it's not news media"
geomon666
(7,512 posts)turning people gay. Paranoia just doesn't quite cover it.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)geomon666
(7,512 posts)Whoever is running this was on cam and was spouting a whole litany of crazy shit, the milk thing being one of them.
Oneironaut
(5,500 posts)geomon666
(7,512 posts)Pretty much the nuttiest of the nuts, the ones at the bottom of the can.
Oneironaut
(5,500 posts)What are they going to do? Hold off 100 FBI agents with APCs and automatic rifles? It's like watching a slow motion suicide.
geomon666
(7,512 posts)They really believe that. That's when they're not high/drunk.
Oneironaut
(5,500 posts)Even if every militia in the US descended on the refuge, wtf would they do? Aren't they aware of the hardware the FBI has? The whole situation would normally be funny, but I'm afraid these morons are going to die.
geomon666
(7,512 posts)I can hear them cocking weapons in the background.
Oneironaut
(5,500 posts)It's like watching a lemming fling itself over a cliff in slow motion.
(I know they don't really do that, but it is. A lemming might be smarter, actually)
Update: They're discussing tactics over the livestream. Wtf...
geomon666
(7,512 posts)They want amnesty, all charges against them and the rest of the shit Bundy Bunch to be dropped, charges to be filed against the people "murdered" Finicum.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)doing this....we want a peaceful resolution but they won't let us..."
geomon666
(7,512 posts)No fucker, you can save lives by just walking out with your hands in the air.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)Oneironaut
(5,500 posts)"Give me exactly what I want, or I'll get killed by you." Um - do they realize that's not a bargain? They literally have no power. They would be dead in one second if not for the FBI trying to actually save their lives. That's what so sad about this whole thing.
This guy rambling on the livestream is on a word salad tirade now.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,662 posts)uppityperson
(115,677 posts)poor coyote.
"we need thousands of people to the checkpoints...drop all the charges...etc etc etc"
Paranoia combined with not having a clue that their own actions have consequences.
"rant rant, wer're right, they're wrong, they promised...tryiing to figure out our best options...for them to come in and murder us with no warrants"....
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Jonny Tig @unbesiegt · 3m3 minutes ago
They are taking advice from #YouTube Live Stream chat. For real. Advice from Internet chat. Not joking. #Oregonstandoff
geomon666
(7,512 posts)I saw one comment that said Lavoy would return as a force ghost. I hope they believe it.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)oooooooeeeeeeeeeoooooooo
tarpman returns
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)give up boys, and you get to live.
tencats
(567 posts)"if you never here from us again, they killed us'" on the phone
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)tencats
(567 posts)LE could shut it down if they wanted to though.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Serious, heard this idiots go over how if they had no video it was ok
This was while admitting to smoking Dope in a federal facility.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)They never heard the news that if they left before now they'd not be arrested? WTF?
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)in a tragic way, I admit
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)I'm beginning to wonder if there is something else in that weed. They are too paranoid.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Remember send snacks,
NRaleighLiberal
(60,014 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)It is like a juvenile American movie crossed with a right-wing nightmare.
"... when I was loading guns and smoking weed ... or was it the other way around."
Separation
(1,975 posts)So my son (17) who is autistic, but very observational none the less. Came up up to me and said, "Daddy are those people on the computer in space?" I guess he is hearing whatever is beeping in the background. I told him no, that those are some people that are protesting. He then asked me again, "Why does it sound like they are in space?" I then told him because thats where their brains are at
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)uppityperson
(115,677 posts)consequences for any threats!!!!
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)back to work, the break is over.
geomon666
(7,512 posts)and passing the chips around.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)so to paraphrase.
"no wonder they asked for snacks, with all the weed smoking, pass the doritos."
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)They are taking advice from #YouTube Live Stream chat. For real. Advice from Internet chat. Not joking. #Oregonstandoff
That chat is rolling so fast no one can read it.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)uppityperson
(115,677 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)I wonder if she has any experience negotiating with armed dicks?
Aerows
(39,961 posts)montana_hazeleyes
(3,424 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)And they are down again. Whew!
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)and the 1990s
tencats
(567 posts)the stream will time out
But then I think LE would not allow this to continue.
tencats
(567 posts)Drone flew away.
Vehicles drove off out of the field.
Looking like a case of harassment to test what the holdouts will do if threatened.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)geomon666
(7,512 posts)All is well.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)"2 vehicles drove up, I thought I saw 3 or 4"
Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)Iggo
(47,558 posts)The only reason this has gone on as long as it has is because the cops are trying to figure out a way to NOT KILL YOU!
Get a brain.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)wahhhh
geomon666
(7,512 posts)We haven't broken any laws! How can we occupy land that no one owns?
Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)geomon666
(7,512 posts)A goddamn legend.
Beartracks
(12,814 posts)I never knew that.
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nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)flamingdem
(39,313 posts)flamingdem
(39,313 posts)uppityperson
(115,677 posts)rant against refugees I guess, not themselves?
ETA off again, that was a short 2 hours of battery power
geomon666
(7,512 posts)about voting for Hillary and serving the government and other paranoid shit again.
And now it's down again.
tencats
(567 posts)Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)These are nothing but repuke terrorists playing militia games.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)and you aren't?
geomon666
(7,512 posts)The government is poisoning you with milk and voting for Hillary causes cancer. Edgeacate urselfs!
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)I'd like to hear more about that milk
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)and them hormones cause cancer, They should know. They are cattle ranchers... So I s'pose they know what they feed the cows.
tencats
(567 posts)"Intel" report: "They are ringed with snipers and the Feds wanted the final four to shoot the drone for "plausible deniability."
"And Why is Hillary still running?"
David is really losing it, pressure is getting to him.
Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)They wrap him up in a white sheet, and he sets outside disguised as a snowman calling in the intel with his cell phone.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)winstars
(4,220 posts)tencats
(567 posts)flamingdem
(39,313 posts)Hillary, Hillary, Hillary..
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)Uh. Huh.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)now sending messages...
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)Maybe they should'nt've threatened to kill people? Maybe you guys shouldn't either? Just... maybe?
geomon666
(7,512 posts)Treasonous traitor of traitoring!
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)hilarious
Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)and the Feds will take them to the delousing station and kill them.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)We need the people to save us. How many bank robbers thought that? Rob a public wildlife refuge, you think people will come to your rescue, you are nuts.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)They think "the people" are behind them. Some of this bull comes from the Mormon Church no matter how much they deny it. So I am sure they think they have support from the Mormons.
What the FBI should do is broadcast evidence of our anger at them for stealing from us. And they should do it loudly and long.
This has got to stop. The majority of Americans were against the first bundy event and even more so this one. They are waiting for the people - let them hear what the people think.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)Maybe because of your threats?
"Guns don't kill people, feds do" and that's why I sitting here with my guns to kill feds with.
geomon666
(7,512 posts)Must've been a bean bag.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)pokerfan
(27,677 posts)NBachers
(17,117 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)all u trolls will end up in fema camps , period
Tarp the chat.
May the Tarp Protect you
CHAT THE TARP
and ....
drone lives matter context is everything
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Though they did say a couple things in all that drivel that activist do say often. So they are not completely divorced from reality.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)A Parker: I feel like an anthropologist studying a strange and stupid tribe LOL
YOU ARE THE TERRORISTS
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)since I did a lot of reading on them in the 1990s.
"We got abandoned!!!!" No shit sherlock, It is starting to dawn on them, none is coming.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)cheapdate
(3,811 posts)It's off the hook! I'm LMAO now!
winstars
(4,220 posts)No loud music needed, just fuck with them...
Is Zed there with these idiots or is he still dead???
Iggo
(47,558 posts)tencats
(567 posts)Probably because of his upbringing, father is hardcore tea bagger.
"if Hillary was the governor we would be all dead by now"
Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)Guy is young and totally destroying his future. Typical repuke voter.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)geomon666
(7,512 posts)Either that or the FBI dropped a gas grenade.
geomon666
(7,512 posts)He basically just fucking said it. It's an ego thing now.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)... this will not end well. This guy is depressed and dysfunctional.
geomon666
(7,512 posts)and he feels disrespected because "he's not as important as Ammon". He actually said that shit.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)uppityperson
(115,677 posts)I wonder if they realize the mocking they are getting? These people have some serious issues.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)God no.
peacebird
(14,195 posts)Doesn't hurt their sons chances for employment...
Iggo
(47,558 posts)Not a survival trait.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Now they are talking about being in the BundyTeaParty in Nevada with Ammon's wife. He shook her hand, PMG!
Myrina
(12,296 posts)One of my (now former) co-workers - a little short on marbles, former National Guard, graduate of a Liberty U type college - shaved his head & posted a pic of a flyer of the Constitution sitting on his Bible, with the caption "some reading while I wait patiently for God's timing" on his FB page earlier this week.
Guess the Bundy Klan has been recruiting in Indiana.
(Dude was escorted off our company premises by police on Thursday morning).
NBachers
(17,117 posts)Who knows what he'll do when God decides it's time?
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Perhaps they let the situation simmer so long to round up conspirators. You just know every word has been recorded, every e-mail read, and a large net has been set.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)vote and the rest?
Mebbe you should have thought about it,
Oh and one of them, their son wants to be a FED!!!! RUN, he has betrayed his values!!!!
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)The (lack of) reasoning on display. Unbelievable stuff.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)so a few things these guys have said it is like when did the SDS kids agree with the John birchers.
Police overreach is one
The other is the media ain't covering what matters to Muricans. Now what matters to the people will not be the same, but both sides believe this.
The level of corruption in the government and institutions is the last one.
So that is a take away from this as well. But these guys, they are not going to walk out alive... they ain't gonna live in a tyrannical country you see.
Some of the themes, (i know I stopped laughing and started actually paying attention and analyzing this) are classic militia fodder as well. The FBI is between a hard rock and a hard place, they do not want another martyr (and Tarpman is a martyr to the movement). But they will have to fire on them when they go arrest them... and boys, they have the legal authority to do that. I know they do not believe it, but it is what it is.
Oh and what you are hearing is classic deescalation and negotiation.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Republican tactic to win elections all the way!
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)also blame the government.
That is my point. At the base the activists, young ones, don't trust the government (and Wall Street) at all.
This struck me as interesting.
Now why they blame the government is different than what these guys do. Just like neither trusts the media either. This may be something to think about a tad deeper.
geomon666
(7,512 posts)on speaker phone.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)"you realize we might be fightin' for our lives at any minute"
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)If they try to arrest them, they'll shoot the law? And this is...peaceful?
Lorien
(31,935 posts)or the Occupy movement, or any environmental group!
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)but he's not helping by believing and pumping up their drone-fed-attack stories.
Ammon's lawyer is another nut job apparently related to the patriot movement.
However, if he makes whatshisname feel important maybe he'll come to his senses.
geomon666
(7,512 posts)What kind of shit is that? He didn't help the situation at all and probably made it worse by selling them back their own fears.
tencats
(567 posts)geomon666
(7,512 posts)RIP voice mail.
edit: OMG he has a quote from Wyatt Earp on his fucking page. Do you get a free cowboy hat if he wins your case?
geomon666
(7,512 posts)Yay!
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)You can trust us, we didn't leave anybody behind. We stayed here."
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)uppityperson
(115,677 posts)Well, they didn't come because your group threatened them.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Which god, there are so many of them?
geomon666
(7,512 posts)Makes it easier if "God is on my side".
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)And you don't get to know if there is another side until you get there.
tencats
(567 posts)"Think about the Bible and all the heroes came from the bottom."
"We were just four grunts, we don't have any military experience, and now we're the shining stars," he said.
lindysalsagal
(20,692 posts)This is more or less like the marginalized adolescent school shooter profile: The only way to be someone is to die with a gun firing. 3 minutes of fame.
I blame american TV.
lindysalsagal
(20,692 posts)These neanderthals provided their own conviction evidence. Talk about stupid crooks.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Because god told us to be armed robbers and he will provide a miracle, and 10,000 people will show up any minute now because they heard us streaming .....
What is direly missing here is someone close enough to yell "RU F''n NUTS?" so loud, it knocks all four of them over.
No one seems to be saying, maybe you four are wrong and the rest of the world is right.
At this point, I'm thinking they have created enough evidence for successful insanity pleas.
Or, based on the same statements, they can just plead that they are Tea Party Republicans.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)"God's miracle to get everybody out of here, if this don't wake the american people up what is? We have to think of ourselves, we would've take a bullet, think of the bible, all the heroes in the bible came from the lowest spot....
Hey guys, bald eagles are carrion lovers. There was a full blood moon and there wasn't supposed to be, believe there will be a miracle, maybe will be the american people showing up here, or they'll shoot us and people will get more pissed off."
Paranoia is a tough thing. Yes, you have to be charged and submit because you broke the law. Cause. Effect. He'd rather die than be arrested. In a peaceful way of course.
Goodnight all.
geomon666
(7,512 posts)Worked out well for him. May the tarp be with you uppity.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)malaise
(269,026 posts)panader0
(25,816 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Ruby Ridge and WACO nobody stood up.
Well kids... have fun at the pearly gates.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)I think those are door buzzards.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)tencats
(567 posts)Is that what I herd?
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)trying to get them legal advise as well
tencats
(567 posts)Bishop public lands bill unveiled, eliciting support and criticism
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865645791/Bishop-public-lands-bill-unveiled-amid-support-criticism.html?pg=all
geomon666
(7,512 posts)Suicide cult now.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)But he talked the other three into staying with him and now all four will be arrested? I bet they wish they could call a mulligan on that.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)tencats
(567 posts)Sean "I'm not liking the attorney thing"
Sandy "I'm not either"
Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)You could take some selected clips and have some fun campaign ads.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)What is real gold is the sound bites, like calling Hillary SoD, in a mash up.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)I just had to shut that idiot off finally. But it sure is nice of them to inform the few people watching of where their minds are at.
He's so wrong, he has no idea how wrong he is.
As an anthropologist, I'm wondering if I can do fieldwork by setting up cameras somewhere and just sitting here?
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)You'd get a new crop in a few weeks or months. So much to study!
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)I think fieldwork on most other animals might be more enriching.
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)An oldie but goodie from a bad video game translation.
Man, I felt gross just looking at that for a minute.
Binkie The Clown
(7,911 posts)They're turning them loose by the millions at the refuge.
"What's that high-pitched buzzing sound? ARRRGHHH! It's a GMO mosquito trying to bit me. Hand me that AR. No, better make it the shotgun, there's a million of those buggers!" (Sound of shotgun blasts and breaking glass, but the high-pitched buzzing goes on and on...)
Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)Time to start eating snow rather than drinking that government water supply.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Seriously, time to walk on out of there with your hands in the air and man up for what you have done. Reality check, planet Earth to four holdouts, everyone else is sane and we all think you should end this peacefully. You get to decide.
lindysalsagal
(20,692 posts)It'll run for 12 seasons!!!
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)For a companion show the door buzzards will compete on 'America's Got Talons.'
Vinca
(50,276 posts)Nay
(12,051 posts)your comments. You make me laugh my ass off, and that's a talent.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)Good thread that one about the Merry Christmas doormat
Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)that Mrs. "Come Git You Some" is telling them not to shoot down the drones as "it's another charge" but they were only moments before talking about getting their pistols ready in case they come "grab us."
So they are setting themselves up to shoot at the authorities, ensuring they will be killed in self defense, but they are afraid of another federal charge?
I am trying to understand these people but they make absolutely no sense.
"Come git you some!"
Some what? Some kills? Some deaths you can notch on your stick? WTF?
The same people claiming it's Armageddon and a free-for-all and encouraging people to come kill strangers are now freaking out about death.
"Come git you some" indeed.
Ligyron
(7,633 posts)I gotta go back and watch feeds and twitter.
Two questions: Are these guyz smart enough to act like a loons in anticipation of an insanity plea?
Would someone please explain the dildo joke or refer me to OP so I can get this reference better.
You people rock!!
Oneironaut
(5,500 posts)uppityperson
(115,677 posts)inside the building showing this stuff, they swept it off the table with his arm yelling don't waste your money. For that alone, it was worth it. Mr uppity told me news media are referring to things like this when talking about the individuals, its what he's most famous for here.
Ligyron
(7,633 posts)uppityperson
(115,677 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)The others often ignore him, as when he tried to get someone to call out, "Happy America!"
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Don't ever underestimate the long-term effects of a good night's sleep.[/center][/font][hr]
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)kentauros
(29,414 posts)So far unhinged that no hardware is anywhere to be found