Is this sick or funny? -- Public Lands Hunt Club on Facebook -- Should I stop laughing?

[L. Coyote]

You have to give them points for clever and bodacious. I admit the thought crossed my mind in relation to the Bundy herd, but this may take the point one step too far and bother ranchers who happily get rich paying their grazing fees. Maybe that's the idea, because the ranchers are going to be pissed at the militia rebellion, not the pundits.
Unless of course they come upon the leftovers from a BBQ. Pick your cows with care, fellow hunters. And don't shoot your friends in the face.



https://www.facebook.com/Shootwelfareranchers/

[2naSalit]

1. Don't stop laughing

because it's truly funny... in a you'd-have-to-live-out-here kind of way to fully appreciate why it's funny. But that also means that there is s kind of sickness to our western humor at times.

I heard about it a few days ago, can't recall where, but I thought it was kind of funny but also thought about how it might actually happen.

[L. Coyote]

3. Cows aren't worth the trouble, let's save the Earth instead of trampling it with methane bots

is what I heard someone thinking

Seriously, lots of ranchers are getting rich on low cost grazing and probably would prefer zero attention to their great situation. These seditious wingnuts are just issue shopping for their ALEC masters, taking advantage of any way to attack the government and blame it for the problems oligarchy creates (like coveting the commons for private gain).

[2naSalit]

4. Totally agree.

I like that, methane bots.

Yeah, the whole subsidized grazing and the ruination of many square miles of public land is criminal at the very least. I stopped eating beef a long time ago, they cause so many problems in the environment. Out here it's a real hot topic and you kind of have to watch who you have those conversations with most of the time, being in a place where my state and surrounding states have yoooge amounts (ID, WY, NV it's around or over 50% of the state) of public lands which run the whole gambit of kinds of public lands. What most seem to forget or not recognize is that public lands are administrated/managed by the federal agencies but WE own them already. The Bungliboys want to privatize our lands for profit and impunity for antisocial behavior.

So, for errant welfare ranchers like Cliven, I wouldn't care if the cows were shot and left for the wildlife to feed on, they can't be table worthy anyway. Heck, I thought they should have been shot via APHIS?Wildife Services with helicopters back during the stand off at the ranch. That's some wide open country out there, might have taken a couple days to get 'er done. Maybe that will still happen. But I also don't mind if actual citizens go out and clear our land of illegal cows eating our grasses, destroying our wildlife's habitat and fouling our air with their exponential contribution of methane.

[L. Coyote]

6. I think we should have the public debate, and I bet the ranchers will lose that one.

They will have to raise beef on their own land eventually, while the commons serves the common good.

[2naSalit]

8. Many of my

friends and colleagues have been working on that for decades, I get involved sometimes. Big problem is that these ranchers and their ignorant supporters look and sound a whole lot like the Bundy gang of armed miscreants. They have few, if any, legitimate arguments and those are almost always successfully countered by scientific data... so you see that this problem is universal among the welfare ranchers. They hate science because it has a great track record of showing them to be wrong on so many points that they get frustrated and take to their guns... like those people in that video posted this AM about the guys in a P/U truck with guns.

I got tired of the death threats and intimidation tactics, but that's all they have unless you count the idiots that get elected in these states who will also intimidate you for their buddies or family members. Too much cronyism and nepotism in local and state government. The laws don't apply... unless there is honest oversight, at least that's how it works out here with heavy mormon domination and shitty school curricula. Few accept the concept of the "commons" unless they want to use it for their own financial gain or reckless entertainment - ATVs and the like.

Cows do not belong out on the range in the west, there really isn't great forage and the elevation and certain native plants kill a lot of cattle and then there's the destruction of sensitive habitat for plants and animals who belong here, trampling stream banks and destroying fisheries among a long list of other detriments of cattle in the west. The example I use in my many presentations, both paid and not, is that when considering grazing of livestock (there's also a problem with sheep out here) one need only ask; And then there's the sheep problem, they spread pneumonia to the native bighorns and them those have to be killed, sometimes entire herds of them as has been happening over the last 20 - 30 years at least.

For anywhere east of the Rocky Mountain Front Range: How many cow/calf pairs can I graze on an acre of grass?

For anywhere west of the Rocky Mountain Front Range: How many acres of sparse grass coverage do I need for a cow/calf pair?

Livestock grazing would never been a viable business venture without government subsidy from cheap grazing fees to killing off native wildlife to make room and forage for the livestock and predator removal all at high dollar taxpayer expense. And that group is also part of the cronyism network. (Google APHIS Wildlife services and see what they're all about).

It's really that simple, the difference becomes immediately obvious to those who possess independent cognitive functioning. My saying is: if you don't have a big enough yard to feed your cows/sheep, you have too many cows/sheep.

The issue is, many or most of the ranching community don't have the intellectual capacity to grasp what the reality is and some who do don't care as long as they get "theirs". Not having the ability to debate anything, out come the guns because, to these guys, guns end all argument and win the contest for them. Maybe it's laziness, if you don't have to think because you have the threat of death for your opponent on our side, why go to all the trouble to think? They rely heavily on substitution of emotion for reasoning in every argument, just like the (R) faction of government, just watch them, they're all the same. They don't care about anyone else.

[JEB]

2. Got a lotta space in my freezer. eom

[Duppers]

5. Funny.

And using their logic (or lack there of), it makes perfect sense.

[catnhatnh]

7. OOOOH-Free Range Cheeseburgers...

Where the Bacon?

[2naSalit]

9. Bacon can be found

wherever the feral swine populations are...

[Paladin]

10. Oh, I love it. Just love it.

I hope this one gets spread around a lot.

[Initech]

11. Well hey the Bunny Bunch are setting up franchises.

Franchise opportunities are available - just show up at some remote federal lands near you. Snacks and working toilets optional.

[L. Coyote]

12. A newspaper in Arizona took this as a serious page, someone asked Fb to remove it.

Facebook said no, newspaper flunked the Poe's Law test. Back to my rib eye ....