For anyone wondering what the Malheur occupation is really about

[Monk06]

The Bundys are trying to fight the Utah War over again and this time hoping to win by forming an allegiance with other militia groups

The Bundys and Finicum are all Mormons who deny the authority of the Federal government, hold the

principle of popular sovereignty (Sovereign Citizens) and believe they are guided by the hand of God.

They also adhere to the notion of Theodemocracy. All of these are foundational Mormon beliefs

This particular struggle has occurred before during the Utah War of 1857-1858

Cliven Bundy thinks he's the reincarnation of Brigham Young

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_War#Polygamy.2C_popular_sovereignty.2C_and_slavery

[randys1]

1. DOES too dumb to breathe Cliven actually believe that, is he on record?

Cliven name too close to Clavin

[RKP5637]

2. They can't seem to comprehend they are un-American, not patriots in the least. They are

trying to bring down the US IMO. In my book they are disgusting POS! I would love to see psychological evaluations, it would be quite revealing.

[randys1]

4. Before Obama came along they were refusing to pay their fees and wanting to STEAL your land

my land, but the moment the Kenyan Muslim was elected

the Bundy's of America became completely insane

[Monk06]

6. He sent a letter today to the governor of Oregon and President Obama stating that he was

permanently taking possession of the Malheur Refuge lands in the 'name of' Harney county

He also demanded that the FBI leave the county and that Sheriff. David M. Ward and Federal Judge Stacie Beckerman resign

So yes he has gone on record

[randys1]

8. Was referring to being the reincarnation, but nothing else explains this, I agree

[Hortensis]

3. Yup as far as it goes. And how do libertarian-cum-neofascist

leaders like the Kochs fit into all this? Yet another giant factional interest that's been encouraging anti-government extremism up to and including active sedition? After all, I really don't see them wanting to do business-by-petition with God's kingdom on earth, as run by the Mormon Church out of His capital near Independence, Missouri.

[LiberalEsto]

5. It seems to me to be a mental health issue n/t

[RKP5637]

7. I think so too! n/t