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If there's one thing that bothers me about this country... (Original Post) MrScorpio Jun 2012 OP
Well at least there is only one thing, pennylane100 Jun 2012 #1
Wait'll thedivision between the 1% & the 99% grows a little further. Jackpine Radical Jun 2012 #2
They really do look related,like the article states. Swede Jun 2012 #3
Imagine them without makeup. Both sexes. demosincebirth Jun 2012 #4
I never got the big lip thing. Ruby the Liberal Jun 2012 #5
Don't forget Liv and Steven Tyler. SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #12
Supposedly, full lips are more sexually attractive. GoCubsGo Jun 2012 #17
It seems kind of creepy to me. Blue_In_AK Jun 2012 #6
True, standards of beauty have changed Confusious Jun 2012 #7
I'm reminded of the movie "Brazil" Ship of Fools Jun 2012 #16
Keep sharp objects away from them. They might go *pop* & flutter away. baldguy Jun 2012 #8
You think this is limited to Americans? Zax2me Jun 2012 #9
Show me where I wrote that this is something that's only done in America MrScorpio Jun 2012 #14
Makes a good point in how they all look alike treestar Jun 2012 #10
I find any body alterations to be fascinating on many levels lunatica Jun 2012 #11
I completely agree with you. nt MrScorpio Jun 2012 #13
Tribal tattoos are form of something really fascinating Lenov Apr 2016 #21
yet you seem to be saying hfojvt Jun 2012 #15
I'm actually saying neither... MrScorpio Jun 2012 #19
"you end up with people looking like this" hfojvt Jun 2012 #20
Bee Sting? cbrer Jun 2012 #18

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
5. I never got the big lip thing.
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 12:50 AM
Jun 2012

Makes people look like they are going into anaphylactic shock.

That goes for Angelina Jolie, Lisa Rinna and everyone else in Hollyweird that promotes that look. It is just not attractive, IMO.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
17. Supposedly, full lips are more sexually attractive.
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 10:56 AM
Jun 2012

But, what the people who do this kind of shit don't seem to realize is that there is far more to being sexually attractive than one's looks. That being said, I don't get the whole thing, either. I've seen women whose lips were so plumped, one could balance a pencil on their upper lip. Were they in that in need of a pencil rest or what?

Confusious

(8,317 posts)
7. True, standards of beauty have changed
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 04:17 AM
Jun 2012

But they have always been something most people can attain, in a sense. Not everyone could be twiggy or George clooney, but you could look good with a little work.

I highly doubt that we will all be able to afford plastic surgery, which means it will be limited to a few, and they will always look strange. Of course, I'm also reminded of the twilight zone episode.

Another thing is that as humans, we are hardwired to recognize faces. When a face looks strange to us, i.e. not not natural, we notice. Video game makers have been seeing this lately as the hardware allows them to create more realistic faces. There's a point crossed where it just looks "weird" and "not right."

 

Zax2me

(2,515 posts)
9. You think this is limited to Americans?
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 09:57 AM
Jun 2012

What a classic America-only closed world view you have.
But since it is a negative one, it's okay - right?!

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
14. Show me where I wrote that this is something that's only done in America
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 10:36 AM
Jun 2012

Or perhaps I should have cited the inadequacies of other countries for your satisfaction.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
10. Makes a good point in how they all look alike
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 09:58 AM
Jun 2012

I've observed that before - you see so many of them on TV - even if plastic surgery is not involved - that you notice they look similar. The ideas of who is beautiful are perhaps too limited.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
11. I find any body alterations to be fascinating on many levels
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 10:23 AM
Jun 2012

People have always altered their bodies. Way back to the Stone Age and since. How many 'royalty' tombs have people with tattoos on them?

Elongated heads all over the world and throughout history:



The Ta Moko traditional tattoos by the Maori in New Zealand:



http://zealandtattoo.co.nz/tattoo-styles/maori-tattoos/

I think the people doing these particular facial and body alterations obviously love that particular look, not that someone has bullied them into getting it.

Although I do believe you're right when it comes to Hollywood and the modelling industry, since these alterations all seem to be pressured from outside not by society, but by industries. So I do see a difference between modern self chosen alterations and those imposed by money making industries to set a standard. There's just no comparison between the choice made by people with modern tattoos and the ones made by fake industry standards.

Lenov

(1 post)
21. Tribal tattoos are form of something really fascinating
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 10:50 AM
Apr 2016

People from Polynesian Tribes treat their tattoos really serious. Only people from highter parts of society can wear tattoos on face. Every part of tattoo is created by certain rules. Eg.


Marquesan croos


Maori tattoos history and meaning

Symbol of a balance between the particular elements and harmony.

Turtle Shells


Symbol of longevity, fertility and peace.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
15. yet you seem to be saying
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 10:48 AM
Jun 2012

that she looks inadequate, or has acted foolishly (which would make her intellectually or morally inadequate).

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
19. I'm actually saying neither...
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 11:27 AM
Jun 2012

And this is not just about this particular woman, but about an ideal image. An image that is promoted by commercial interests that implies that a person's particular natural look is somehow inadequate, and the only solution for this is to go under the knife or the needle.

The surgically altered image, which gets exposure in the media; reality TV shows, movies, fashion icons, wealthy people in general, is then set up as an example of what people should strive to look like.

What happens next is you have people in general finding themselves in the hands of people who have Botox parties in living rooms and getting surgical procedures to "enhance" perfectly functional body parts.

It would be something else entirely if healthy lifestyle things like exercise, good nutrition and an avoidance of UV rays are promoted instead of what we're seeing in those pictures.

But who's going to make money from stuff like that, right?

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
20. "you end up with people looking like this"
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 12:11 PM
Jun 2012

Maybe I am missing what surgeries she has obviously had, other than some lip work.

I am not disagreeing with your post here. I find all these piercings and tatoos these days to be disgusting.

But then again, I am a grumpy old man.

But to some degree your complaint is not just that this woman was surgically altered, but also that the results of that surgical alteration moved her further away from the ideal. She looks ridiculous.

And that, is somewhat ironic. No?

 

cbrer

(1,831 posts)
18. Bee Sting?
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 11:03 AM
Jun 2012

Wouldn't it have been more accurate to say "some Americans"? I have been priviledged to meet some damn fine people along the way.

Shame to have them slandered due to being grouped with Republicans...

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