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PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
Sat Jun 2, 2012, 10:34 PM Jun 2012

UPDATE - FALSE ALARM: Integrity: The Child Scott Walker Left Behind

http://wcmcoop.com/members/integrity-the-child-scott-walker-left-behind/

Editor's note: What follows is one woman's account of the Scott Walker she knew at Marquette University. To the extent possible we have verified its accuracy, including the accuracy of details not printed here in order to protect the identities of the people involved. All of the elements are consistent: the principals were at Marquette University when the incidents recounted here allegedly happened, and "Ruth" did have a baby shortly thereafter. However, attempts to reach "Ruth" and her first husband have been unsuccessful, as phone numbers listed for each have been disconnected, and so far we have not been able to independently verify Bernadette's account.

“First off, let me be clear, set the stage here … I’ve had a high level of integrity all the way back to my early days as a kid when I earned the rank of Eagle Scout, and have shown that during my time in the State Assembly, as the County Executive, and now as the Governor of the State of Wisconsin. I will continue to have high integrity long after I’m in this position and long after this whole process is complete.” –Scott Walker

....

Over the phone, Bernadette recounted how she watched a recent televised debate between Scott Walker and Tom Barrett. As he talked about his “lifelong integrity” her anger grew. This was a man who had abandoned his pregnant young girlfriend— completely turned his back on her at the most fragile point in her life. She notes his “now-convenient ‘pro-life’ proclamations” after burying his past “indiscretion.” Says Bernadette, “I cannot listen to his lies anymore … I cannot dream of how anyone would support such an evil man. Once a man shows that he has no soul, there is nothing more.

This is not an anonymous accusation. Bernadette has given the WCMC permission to use her full name, but we are withholding it for now.


More at link

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UPDATE, the story has as much legitimacy than Walker himself, none!!: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/06/03/1096950/-Woman-Denies-Walker-Fathered-Baby-JSO-Reporter-Daniel-Bice
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UPDATE - FALSE ALARM: Integrity: The Child Scott Walker Left Behind (Original Post) PeaceNikki Jun 2012 OP
I have noticed that many pro-life males seem to think that women SheilaT Jun 2012 #1
Walker is an Eagle Scout son of a preacher, don't forget!! PeaceNikki Jun 2012 #2
Which means highly skilled at putting on the "what a good boy am I" mask JHB Jun 2012 #35
It's all her fault...she's a slut BlueToTheBone Jun 2012 #46
Who is the Wisconsin Citizens Media Co-op? bluestateguy Jun 2012 #3
They started with the WI uprising. PeaceNikki Jun 2012 #5
hope this is true & has enough power to move the vote. HiPointDem Jun 2012 #4
Kaboom! That's my Despardo! Ellipsis Jun 2012 #6
Maybe. pa28 Jun 2012 #10
"Ain't gonna" go over well in conservative christian farm country I can tell you that Ellipsis Jun 2012 #14
I reallllly want to see this scumbag go down. Hope you've got it right. n/t pa28 Jun 2012 #17
Gives a whole new meaning to Scott Walker's final push. Ellipsis Jun 2012 #20
Kick because there is a story line building around this guy. pa28 Jun 2012 #28
It's not a live boy or dead women in his bed so his sycophants won't budge. PeaceNikki Jun 2012 #15
There will be more then a few Walker signs gone on farmsteads if this is verified. Ellipsis Jun 2012 #18
I don't care about their signs, I just want them to stay home Tuesday. PeaceNikki Jun 2012 #19
Some will definitely stay home, if true. Ellipsis Jun 2012 #21
Probably doesn't matter to his supporters, they've glossed over so much already... n/t natrixgli Jun 2012 #7
Scott Walker would have to impale babies on spikes to lose support from the enthralled masses. PeaceNikki Jun 2012 #8
Of course, from birth to military age, they're just an inconvenience. . natrixgli Jun 2012 #9
his masses like that sort of thing, unfortunately. wial Jun 2012 #23
nah qazplm Jun 2012 #25
They'd instantly become Mexican anchor babies... JHB Jun 2012 #37
let's just pray that it is true and that it swings enough votes to bring him down Douglas Carpenter Jun 2012 #11
My concern is hyping an unverified story could damage Barrett. Proceed with caution. n/t natrixgli Jun 2012 #12
meh, Barrett won't touch this but I will. He has no integrity whether this story is true or not. PeaceNikki Jun 2012 #13
There is a story about a man named Drudge LiberalAndProud Jun 2012 #16
K&R hay rick Jun 2012 #22
sure hope it's true--- la la Jun 2012 #24
I went to the Wisconsin news sites none of them mentions this story bigdarryl Jun 2012 #26
Calling Gloria Allred DallasNE Jun 2012 #27
Allred ProfessionalLeftist Jun 2012 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author ProfessionalLeftist Jun 2012 #29
k+r limpyhobbler Jun 2012 #29
Will people believe this? ibegurpard Jun 2012 #32
Not sure, but the two are not mutually exclusive. PeaceNikki Jun 2012 #33
University of Minnesota Scientist Drops Bombshell About Walker: Says He Fathered Child at Marquette Ellipsis Jun 2012 #34
Was the young woman 18 or 20 at the time this allegedly happened? JDPriestly Jun 2012 #43
Incoming freshman would imply 18, Walker was 20 according to the article. Ellipsis Jun 2012 #44
Breaking....from wcmcoop.com?! Zax2me Jun 2012 #36
TMZ wil pick it up and investigate. Ellipsis Jun 2012 #39
There is PLENTY in this article that is "checkable". . GET CRACKING annabanana Jun 2012 #38
Woman Denies Walker Fathered Baby - JSO Reporter Daniel Bice Omaha Steve Jun 2012 #40
I Agree We Need To Be Very Careful DallasNE Jun 2012 #54
Did Walker get a barrelful of Koch money to buy some silence? nt MADem Jun 2012 #55
Forget Walker. This story is impacting a private family. Generic Brad Jun 2012 #41
I Understand And Agree With Your Concern DallasNE Jun 2012 #57
I'm confused. Who was 20 and who was 18 in this article? JDPriestly Jun 2012 #42
Her/The attorney mentioned is quite capable and argued 20 cases before the Mn. Supreme court Ellipsis Jun 2012 #45
Its difficult to understand how this could stay a secret until Scott Walker's undeterred Jun 2012 #47
My Understanding Is That Newspapers DallasNE Jun 2012 #58
How about another update: CCAP records show Gillick's claim may still have merit despite DKos art sybylla Jun 2012 #48
thanks for the update! This has yet to play out... eowyn_of_rohan Jun 2012 #49
I think she's smart to have a lawyer on her side from the start. sybylla Jun 2012 #61
yes--it is a touchy subject- tabloid material eowyn_of_rohan Jun 2012 #63
Thanks for the update, Sybylla. Jackpine Radical Jun 2012 #53
Agreed, Jackpine. sybylla Jun 2012 #59
It Looks Like "Bice" May Have Contacted The Wrong Woman DallasNE Jun 2012 #56
That's what the blogger is saying. Bice has never been that reliable a reporter either. sybylla Jun 2012 #60
It is a pretty brilliant deflection, though. Jackpine Radical Jun 2012 #62
Or translated from the latin: Turbineguy Jun 2012 #50
Gee, what a surprise that this particular OP posted this easily rebutted anonymous rumor brentspeak Jun 2012 #51
lol, buuuuuuuuuurn. Did that dig give you wood? PeaceNikki Jun 2012 #52
SOLID STORY treeman Jun 2012 #64
Hi, treeman! Suich Jun 2012 #65
Interesting, thank you for your input and welcome to DU!! PeaceNikki Jun 2012 #66
DING DING DING! Treeman, you're our grand prize winner! rocktivity Jun 2012 #67
Severe Problems With The Denial DallasNE Jun 2012 #70
Is there any evidence.......any at all.......that the baby's mother isn't telling the truth? WillowTree Jun 2012 #68
Welcome to DU, treeman. Skinner Jun 2012 #69
Who Is The Woman Doing The Denial DallasNE Jun 2012 #71
Another assessment/link treeman Jun 2012 #72
 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
1. I have noticed that many pro-life males seem to think that women
Sat Jun 2, 2012, 10:46 PM
Jun 2012

somehow get pregnant all by themselves.

I often wish that more women would simply give the babies men force them to bear directly to those men. "Here, big fella, she's all yours." Unfortunately (in a way) most women know perfectly well that those men would do a truly dreadful job of raising the baby, and so take on the responsibility themselves. With almost no support from society at large, and often with no support from the man who planted the seed.

And good for Bernadette for coming out on this. I rather suspect that very many high profile "pro-life" men have such skeletons in their closets.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
35. Which means highly skilled at putting on the "what a good boy am I" mask
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 09:49 AM
Jun 2012

Neither one of those equates with integrity.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
3. Who is the Wisconsin Citizens Media Co-op?
Sat Jun 2, 2012, 10:50 PM
Jun 2012

I'll wait to see if and when this makes it to the Journal-Sentinel and the local network newscasts.

pa28

(6,145 posts)
10. Maybe.
Sat Jun 2, 2012, 11:16 PM
Jun 2012

This Eagle Scout apparently got his girlfriend pregnant, called her a slut and said 'your problem'.

We call that kind of behavior sociopathic but Republicans call it getting in touch with their base.

Guess we'll see.

Ellipsis

(9,124 posts)
14. "Ain't gonna" go over well in conservative christian farm country I can tell you that
Sat Jun 2, 2012, 11:22 PM
Jun 2012

Right now, that's his make or break and "it dun broke."





Ellipsis

(9,124 posts)
20. Gives a whole new meaning to Scott Walker's final push.
Sat Jun 2, 2012, 11:46 PM
Jun 2012



This is this Friday's over used Walker pic.

pa28

(6,145 posts)
28. Kick because there is a story line building around this guy.
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 01:56 AM
Jun 2012

This is not a contest of ideas it's about firing an obviously corrupt politician.

He got a phone call from "David Koch" and came off as an ambitious junior salesman trying to kiss his bosses ass. He's probably going to be indicted on criminal charges in the near future and he's been caught lying about his objectives repeatedly and on film.

The paraphrase what Clinton said the other day; 'if they win this one they'll know it's over. If unlimited money can win this one it can win anything'.



Ellipsis

(9,124 posts)
18. There will be more then a few Walker signs gone on farmsteads if this is verified.
Sat Jun 2, 2012, 11:35 PM
Jun 2012

Last edited Sun Jun 3, 2012, 12:49 AM - Edit history (1)

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
19. I don't care about their signs, I just want them to stay home Tuesday.
Sat Jun 2, 2012, 11:38 PM
Jun 2012

ok, I am sick of the fucking signs, too. It's obnoxious out here in Lake Country. Totally obnoxious. There are "Scott Walker for president" signs in Delafield. PRESIDENT!!!?!? My hope is that these idiots write Walker in in November.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
8. Scott Walker would have to impale babies on spikes to lose support from the enthralled masses.
Sat Jun 2, 2012, 11:06 PM
Jun 2012

Seriously, what would it take for the Stand with Walker crowd to abandon their “hero?”

http://bloggingblue.com/2012/06/01/what-would-it-take/

I’ve struggled with this question for some time now. What would Walker have to do to get them to see him for who he is? Let’s face it, he’s got the following record:

He has the worst Jobs Record in America
He oversaw corruption while County Executive
He’s lost 10,000 businesses
He has a legal defense fund
He has two high-priced legal mouthpieces
He’s been obstructing the John Doe investigation for two years
He’s the most dishonest governor in America according to PolitiFact

I think transvestite comedian (comedienne?) Eddie Izzard has the answer: Scott Walker would have to impale babies on spikes to lose support from the enthralled masses. And even then, I think they’d figure out a way to excuse it since he impaled babies and not fetuses.

natrixgli

(4 posts)
9. Of course, from birth to military age, they're just an inconvenience. .
Sat Jun 2, 2012, 11:14 PM
Jun 2012

Rack of babies? Hoo-ha-hoo-ha.... Props on the Eddie Izzard reference!

wial

(437 posts)
23. his masses like that sort of thing, unfortunately.
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 12:02 AM
Jun 2012

what do you think W2 (welfare "reform&quot was all about? It was to scare people out of immigrating into Wisconsin from Chicago, by showing what would happen to their children if they did. it was the moral equivalent of Vlad the Impaler's line of stakes adorned with bodies on the border, and the masses loved it.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
37. They'd instantly become Mexican anchor babies...
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 09:54 AM
Jun 2012

...while simultaneously accusing the barrett campaign of the most scurrilous underhanded lies: double down for the segment that would love it, and turn everyone else's horror against your opponent.

It's the Atwater/Rove/Ailes way.

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
16. There is a story about a man named Drudge
Sat Jun 2, 2012, 11:32 PM
Jun 2012

who reported about the exploits of a young woman named Lewinsky. We don't have the machine, so this story may not have the impetus, but stranger things have happened.

la la

(1,855 posts)
24. sure hope it's true---
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 12:33 AM
Jun 2012

i've posted in all my groups and on my wall....hoping so hard he finally gets kicked to the curb...

 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
26. I went to the Wisconsin news sites none of them mentions this story
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 01:01 AM
Jun 2012

So I'm thinking they must think this is a last minute hit piece.Let this have been a democrat Governor this would be headline news around the nation let alone Wisconsin.The shit these republicans get away with and there supporters just gloss over anything they do. Walker could be on video running over somebody and the supporters would still support him.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
27. Calling Gloria Allred
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 01:44 AM
Jun 2012

We need your team on this and pronto. A woman has put her name and reputation on the line and that is pretty powerful but the story cannot be called credible based on just this one report. It needs someone with clout to protect the individuals and allow them to come forward and provide the credibility. Maybe someone could forward this link to Allred if they have her email address.

Response to DallasNE (Reply #27)

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
33. Not sure, but the two are not mutually exclusive.
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 07:33 AM
Jun 2012

If it's true, it wouldn't be a story if he didn't try to pass himself off as such a squeaky clean, Eagle Scout son of a preacher oozing with "integrity".

Also see my above comments about his cultlike followers, impaled babies, live boy/dead woman. Whatever, Walker is a scumbag piece of shit, true story or not.

Ellipsis

(9,124 posts)
34. University of Minnesota Scientist Drops Bombshell About Walker: Says He Fathered Child at Marquette
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 08:51 AM
Jun 2012

Yesterday, the University of Minnesota's Dr. Bernadette Gillick was best known as a nationally recognized scientist for her research into how the brain recovers from injuries.

/snip/

Bernadette Gillick was a college freshman in 1988 when she first met Scott Walker. It was spring semester, and she had just transferred to Marquette University. She was assigned a room in O’Donnell Hall (then a women’s dormitory), which she shared with her new roommate, Ruth (not her real name). Ruth was dating Scott Walker, who was 20 at the time, and, according to Bernadette, Ruth was deeply in love with him.

Midway through that spring semester, Bernadette alleges, Ruth found out she was pregnant. She informed her boyfriend, Scott, and initially he was supportive. That support changed to callous indifference for his girlfriend’s predicament after Scott informed his parents of the pregnancy.

Bernadette reports that at this point Scott began denying that he was the father of the baby, and when Ruth said she was considering an abortion, he claimed he didn’t care, as he wasn’t the father anyway.

/snip/

She says Walker eventually had to concede that he was the father, after the birth and paternity test.


http://www.uppitywis.org/blogarticle/university-minnesota-scientist-drops-bombshell-about-walker-says

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
43. Was the young woman 18 or 20 at the time this allegedly happened?
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 10:27 AM
Jun 2012

The story as reported doesn't seem very solid. More information, more interviews are needed on this. And coming forward with this so late in the game does not help.

Ellipsis

(9,124 posts)
44. Incoming freshman would imply 18, Walker was 20 according to the article.
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 10:32 AM
Jun 2012

We'll find out if it's true or not shortly... I'd imagine. It's only been out there for only 12 hours.

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
38. There is PLENTY in this article that is "checkable". . GET CRACKING
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 09:55 AM
Jun 2012
All this was taking place while Walker was running for student body president. As one of his classmates, Dr. Glenn Barry recalled, Walker’s campaign was, “one of the dirtiest in school history.” The student newspaper Marquette Tribune called him “unfit for office” after his campaign was discovered collecting and throwing out copies of their paper that endorsed his opponent. Commenting on the election and Walker’s political career and style at Marquette, he noted, “Walker lost on all counts, but not before destroying a few people’s reputations, and amassing personal power.”



http://wcmcoop.com/members/integrity-the-child-scott-walker-left-behind/

Omaha Steve

(99,660 posts)
40. Woman Denies Walker Fathered Baby - JSO Reporter Daniel Bice
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 10:08 AM
Jun 2012


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/06/03/1096950/-Woman-Denies-Walker-Fathered-Baby-JSO-Reporter-Daniel-Bice

The story that Scott Walker abandoned his pregnant girlfriend in college (dKos diary link) failed the first test of verification by a professional reporter. Daniel Bice, the "Watchdog" reporter of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel Online interviewed the anonymous woman who had the baby, but she adamantly denied that Scott Walker was the father according to a comment by Daniel Bice to the linked story.

Daniel BiceJune 3, 2012 at 3:15 amReply

I am getting a lot of emails because of this post. Two things: (1) I tracked down and talked to Dr. Gillick’s freshman-year roommate at MU yesterday, and she adamantly denies that Walker is the father of her child. Yes, she got pregnant as a first-year student, but she believes Dr. Gillick is mixing up stories; and (2) I Can Read CCAP has taken a family court suit involving Scott Alan Walker and mixed it up with the governor, Scott Kevin Walker.

We need to be careful with stories like this that haven't been verified. Yes, someone could be impersonating Daniel Bice, but the comment rings true to me. Yes, the woman who had the baby could be covering up for some undisclosed reason, but we have zero evidence of that. Note, the official CCAP family court records that Daniel Bice and others accessed do not indicate that governor Scott Walker was the father.



DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
54. I Agree We Need To Be Very Careful
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 08:15 PM
Jun 2012

With stories like this. It does seem very convenient though to have a Scott Alan Walker and Scott Kevin Walker to muddy the waters. How well has that angle been checked out. Dr. Gillike put her reputation on the line and stands by her story according to her attorney. What does all of this mean? We need to be very careful with stories and very careful with the denials. Something doesn't smell quite right here but I could be wrong. Because this has been floating around for a while some money could have changed hands as well -- not saying that happened, but I think you get my point. (Has the mother made any recent, large purchases, like a new car?) I certainly would not push this story but I would also like to see if the denial pans out as well as some other digging. For my part I never like to see single sourced stories so that was a first red flag. And I let the chips fall where they may.

What would have been great is if Dr. Gillike had a picture of her roommate with her boyfriend. That would have been game, set, match.

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
41. Forget Walker. This story is impacting a private family.
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 10:10 AM
Jun 2012

Paternity is being questioned here. Consider the woman who is accused of carrying Walker's child all those years ago. Consider the young adult who is being told his/her father may not be the person he thought. This "story" is impacting real people who have no bearing in this recall election.

This 11th hour accusation makes me sick. The collateral damage of this story affects real flesh and blood people. Lives of private citizens are being impacted here. They don't deserve this.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
57. I Understand And Agree With Your Concern
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 09:20 PM
Jun 2012

But "Ruth" is not her real name so no identities have been disclosed.

undeterred

(34,658 posts)
47. Its difficult to understand how this could stay a secret until Scott Walker's
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 12:09 PM
Jun 2012

recall election... considering that he has run for the County Executive and the Governor's Office before. Usually this type of thing comes out when a campaign does opposition research.

Are the Democrats that bad at it or is this just a mistake?

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
58. My Understanding Is That Newspapers
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 09:28 PM
Jun 2012

Have been setting on this story but have not released it because they had not been able to verify. Then out of the blue a woman steps forward and one source thought it was good enough. Let's see if Dr. Gillike's attorney releases something that could be damning; either a picture of this woman with Scott Walker or a letter where the woman talks about some of the items Dr. Gillike has disclosed. One assumes that all of the cards weren't put on the table in this first article.

sybylla

(8,514 posts)
48. How about another update: CCAP records show Gillick's claim may still have merit despite DKos art
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 04:16 PM
Jun 2012
http://bdgrdemocracy.wordpress.com/2012/06/03/ccap-records-show-dr-gillicks-claim-may-still-have-merit-despite-daily-kos-article/


Dr. Gillick is a respected and highly esteemed researcher at the University of Minnesota. If she were making these allegations without merit and only on political grounds, she would lose her job, for violating ethical standards at a public university. The fact that she has legal representation in this matter also speaks to her having some evidence beyond a college story.

The CCAP case entry from 2004 referenced by the “Bice” comment does not fit the necessary timing to be relevant to this case. To wit:

Dr. Gillick’s account took place in 1988 (she graduated in 1991) while she and her roommate “Ruth” were Freshmen. Scott Walker is said to have been 20 at the time. Indeed, these dates are consistent with historical facts.

The Scott Walker referenced in the “Bice” comment of Family Court CCAP record was born in April, 1961. The woman in the record (mother of the child) was born in 1962. There is no possible way Dr. Gillick would confuse, or have even known this “other” Scott Walker, much less been roommates with the mother at Marquette. They are both 6 – 7 years older that any of the parties cited by Dr. Gillick.

The bottom line – this “CCAP” alibi is a ready-made cover story for Walker supporters. There is some merit to this story, and it should be allowed to develop as more real evidence is brought to light. In the meantime, continue the push to GOTV – making history is within our reach. That is the focus.


Distraction? Yes. Rubbish? Don't count it out yet.

eowyn_of_rohan

(5,858 posts)
49. thanks for the update! This has yet to play out...
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 04:33 PM
Jun 2012

We don’t have the facts; what we have is a seemingly credible witness putting her career on the line to inform the public of something she thinks is relevant to Scott Walker’s career.

Dr. Gillick will be targeted for this, and it will be ugly. I imagine her lawyer verified her story for the sake of protecting her legally, but that won’t stop the dangerous faction of the conservative movement, whose interest in the truth is too often non-existent.

http://www.politicususa.com/walker-deemed-evil-allegedly-abandoning-pregnant-girlfriend-college.html

sybylla

(8,514 posts)
61. I think she's smart to have a lawyer on her side from the start.
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 08:10 AM
Jun 2012

Like you say, they're going to go after her. I just wish this had come out a week ago. Dems are going to be gun-shy on this until they can see some proof of the claim.

eowyn_of_rohan

(5,858 posts)
63. yes--it is a touchy subject- tabloid material
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 01:57 PM
Jun 2012

Walker's world is unraveling in all directions it seems. He will be brought down for one thing or another -- more like several!

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
53. Thanks for the update, Sybylla.
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 06:39 PM
Jun 2012

This whole thing smells so much like Roveian obfuscatory methods that it would probably be good to just stay away from it. Sure something could open up tomorrow, but I doubt there will be any confirmation (or disconfirmation, for that matter) before the election.

sybylla

(8,514 posts)
59. Agreed, Jackpine.
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 08:03 AM
Jun 2012

I doubt we'll know enough before election day to truly run with this story. I wish it had come out a week ago instead of just a day or two ago.

There's no way I trust Bice on this or the Urinal Sentinel. But I don't think the Dems ought to push this story until we have more confidence/corroboration of the facts.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
56. It Looks Like "Bice" May Have Contacted The Wrong Woman
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 09:17 PM
Jun 2012

I presume he contacted the woman on the 2004 court record, which would mean that the wrong woman was contacted making the denial meaningless.

sybylla

(8,514 posts)
60. That's what the blogger is saying. Bice has never been that reliable a reporter either.
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 08:06 AM
Jun 2012

It's a stupid mistake no "veteran" reporter would make. Which tells me he's out there to obfuscate as much as possible.

In fact, CCAP, our court database, lists birth dates on the search page. So this is an unforced error, as Rachel Maddow calls it.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
62. It is a pretty brilliant deflection, though.
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 11:30 AM
Jun 2012

Worthy of an Atwater or a Rove.

That fact alone makes me think that there is some grist in this mill. Not that it will do us any good before tomorrow night. Nevertheless, November is coming, & if this story develops into something worthwhile, maybe it will help build some buyers' regret over the whole Republican brand (regardless of what happens tomorrow).

brentspeak

(18,290 posts)
51. Gee, what a surprise that this particular OP posted this easily rebutted anonymous rumor
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 05:33 PM
Jun 2012

An anonymous rumor designed to be easily rebutted in order to make Walker look like the victim of "Democratic dirty tricks".

treeman

(2 posts)
64. SOLID STORY
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 04:02 PM
Jun 2012

The article by WCMCOOP.COM about Dr. Gillick’s direct experience with Scott Walker while they were at Marquette University is well researched and presented with sensitivity to the alleged birth mother of Walker’s child. The article was simply written as a report of one woman’s account of her direct experience with Walker. WCMC received information about Dr. Gillick’s statement made through her lawyer. The coop’s team of researchers looked into this story to verify that both Dr. Gillick and her attorney (Mike Fargione) were indeed who they claimed to be. After direct conversations with Dr. Gillick and Mr. Fargione, the researchers assessed their credibility and checked out the facts surrounding their assertions. In discussing their findings, all members of the coop found this story to be solidly supported by additional information that was withheld to protect the birthmother and the child. Withholding this information showed sensitivity, and coop members would not have given voice to Dr. Gillick’s story if they had any reason to doubt its accuracy. Researchers for the coop continue to compile more evidence to support Dr. Gillick’s report of her direct personal experience with Walker. The birthmother has reportedly denied that Walker is the father of her baby that was born at that time. However, she admits that she was Dr. Gillick’s roommate at the time of her pregnancy, and she claims that Dr. Gillick is confused and that there was “another” roommate that was pregnant in the following year. Gillick and her subsequent roommate deny any “other” pregnant roommate. It is not surprising that the birthmother may want to deflect attention from herself and her child (it would be horrendous to deal with the aftermath of such an admission, or her child may not even know, or the deep pockets of Walker’s allies may have even lead to some sort of nondisclosure agreement in the past). If this is the case, it is easy to see why she would have to deny such a claim when she was suddenly put on the spot. But this is not only her story. Dr. Gillick has her own direct experience with Walker and his behavior at Marquette. After she watched the debate where Walker bragged about his own integrity, Dr. Gillick feels that it is her moral obligation to share her story related to a man who has already caused great harm to his state, a man who could be reelected based on his claims of integrity and be positioned to inflict even more harm. I admire Dr. Gillick’s courage to share her story. She has nothing to gain and everything to lose if it were not true. I also respect the WCMC for their courage to publish a controversial story that they have thoroughly investigated, and continue to pursue.


PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
66. Interesting, thank you for your input and welcome to DU!!
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 05:02 PM
Jun 2012

I didn't mean to get snotty questioning their integrity in my update to the OP. WCM has been invaluable.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
67. DING DING DING! Treeman, you're our grand prize winner!
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 06:13 PM
Jun 2012
...It is not surprising that the birth mother may want to deflect attention from herself and her child (it would be horrendous to deal with the aftermath of such an admission, or her child may not even know, or the deep pockets of Walker’s allies may have even lead to some sort of nondisclosure agreement in the past)...

I've hesitated to embrace this story because of the possible effect on the child. But I think it's equally wrong to ignore it simply because the birth mother denies it.


rocktivity

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
70. Severe Problems With The Denial
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 04:30 PM
Jun 2012

The people on the 2004 document are not revelant because they about 6-7 years too old (look at their date of birth on the court document), meaning that the woman making the denial is not "Ruth" so Bice talked to the wrong person making the entire statement of denial a load of crap. The identity of Ruth and her child are still unknown. Bice has been a real scumbag on this story. Has he been paid by Walker supporters? While the original story is still too thin to embrace the denial can be rejected completely.

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
68. Is there any evidence.......any at all.......that the baby's mother isn't telling the truth?
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 06:30 PM
Jun 2012

Or is that just your conjecture?

Did you miss the part where the man who was named in the family court suit was Scott Alan Walker, not Scott Kevin Walker, who is the governor? Are you asserting that this woman sued a different Scott Walker just to cover up the truth?

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
71. Who Is The Woman Doing The Denial
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 04:56 PM
Jun 2012

Bice didn't say who he talked to but there is a clear possibility that he talked to the wrong woman. As this link shows the woman on the 2004 document is 6 years older than Dr. Gillick's then roommate. She would know nothing about what happened in 1988, when she was 26 years old. Bice is clever in that he did not say that the person he spoke with was the "Ruth" that Dr. Gillick knew. Because of the detail of the denial I suspect Walker money greased this research and denial. The denial looks as bogus as the memo's in Dan Rather's story on Bush's Guard.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=760893

treeman

(2 posts)
72. Another assessment/link
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 05:28 PM
Jun 2012

Here is a link that assesses what has been releases so far. WCMC will undoubtedly be providing more on this topic. I believe we will also see something from The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel after the election.

http://www.politicususa.com/reporter-working-paper-endorsing-scott-walker-denies-wi-baby-daddy-allegation.html

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