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snooper2

(30,151 posts)
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 12:00 PM Feb 2016

"No, I don't agree with that" , "THEN WHY IN THE FUCK DID YOU ACCEPT THE POSITION!"




I feel bad for adults working at any capacity at Universities these days. Oh, and this is YALE. Fucking Yale LOL...

You want a home, go home and save your parents a shitload of money.


Yale Students Whine and Moan About a Lack of Safe Space
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"No, I don't agree with that" , "THEN WHY IN THE FUCK DID YOU ACCEPT THE POSITION!" (Original Post) snooper2 Feb 2016 OP
I would like to know more background on this. Hoppy Feb 2016 #1
OP needs more background. We don't know what the issue is. brush Feb 2016 #2
Here pinboy3niner Feb 2016 #3
Thanks for the links. It's about blackface Holloween costumes in 2015 brush Feb 2016 #6
yeah mercuryblues Feb 2016 #12
Well he's half-right davidn3600 Feb 2016 #18
that is mercuryblues Feb 2016 #22
They have it so ryan_cats Feb 2016 #4
Because the "that" is nothing more than one blissninny snowflake's opinion whatthehey Feb 2016 #5
Try teaching about the evolution of the portrayal of sexuality in literature and cinema Sen. Walter Sobchak Feb 2016 #7
Indeed. CanSocDem Feb 2016 #8
that sounds horrible hfojvt Feb 2016 #9
You just have the man... uhh... operate the pause button Sen. Walter Sobchak Feb 2016 #11
All students should be forced to watch Fear and Loathing on their first freshman day snooper2 Feb 2016 #13
In my day, we would have found much more creative ways to express our displeasure with her KamaAina Feb 2016 #10
I wanted to go to Brown, and I got in, but social anxiety kept me close to home. HuckleB Feb 2016 #21
Actually, Brown is one of the few Ivies that doesn't play KamaAina Feb 2016 #24
Just once I'd like someone to tell one of these precious babies to grow the eff up & not back down. WillowTree Feb 2016 #14
Yale Daycare? Matrosov Feb 2016 #15
they sound like brats Skittles Feb 2016 #16
What was with the finger snapping? NobodyHere Feb 2016 #17
Hold the applause: Millennials think we should stop clapping – and start finger snapping HuckleB Feb 2016 #19
Good lord Egnever Feb 2016 #25
Clapping can trigger people with PTSD. AngryAmish Feb 2016 #20
I hope it's not gang-related: JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2016 #23
 

Hoppy

(3,595 posts)
1. I would like to know more background on this.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 12:51 PM
Feb 2016

What is his position in the university?

What has been happening?

What might he have done that he didn't do?



In the absence of this information, I agree, go home and grow up. The attitude of the confrontational students is, I am louder than you so shut up and quit.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
3. Here
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 01:44 PM
Feb 2016
The moment Yale students encircled and shouted down professor who told them to just 'look away' if they were offended by Halloween costumes
7 November 2015
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3308422/Students-rage-professor-sent-email-telling-students-just-look-away-offended-Halloween-costumes.html

Erika Christakis leaves teaching role (and husband takes Spring sabbatical)
|Dec 07, 2015
http://yaledailynews.com/blog/2015/12/07/erika-christakis-to-end-teaching/

brush

(53,922 posts)
6. Thanks for the links. It's about blackface Holloween costumes in 2015
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 02:15 PM
Feb 2016

Why is there even a question that that is inappropriate?

That one student maybe went too far in her reaction to the prof but the prof and his wife certainly didn't handle the issue of allowing blackface costumes well.

mercuryblues

(14,547 posts)
12. yeah
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 03:44 PM
Feb 2016

according to the professor that is just free speech. If you are offended, just look the other way. Or start a dialog? is he shitting me? If you protest that idea you are considered intolerant of free speech.

This also happened at the same time Yale's SAE frat refused to let 4 minority students into a party, saying it was a white girls only admittance.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
18. Well he's half-right
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 08:52 PM
Feb 2016

Going blackface is not a crime. You can't arrest someone for going blackface. Going blackface would be a freedom of speech protection. No matter what you opinion on it is....it's protected by the first amendment. Simple as that. So the professor is right in that sense.

But that doesn't mean one that speech is free from consequences. You can confront the persons....you can't assault them, but you can confront them. The school can make rules on what kind of speech is permitted in their environment since it is the school's property. So you dont have to sit there and take it. You have the freedom to confront that speech with your own.

Should the school be forbidding this kind of racial expression on their property? That might be something that may need to be discussed because there have apparently been a few racial incidents at Yale lately. But one professor is unlikely the issue here. This is something that concerned students need to be taking up with the administration and boards.

mercuryblues

(14,547 posts)
22. that is
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 09:20 PM
Feb 2016

why the professor sent the email. The school's Intercultural Affairs Committee sent an email to discourage students from wearing costumes that are "culturally unaware and insensitive" Specifically mentioning feathered headdresses, war paint, turbans, black face, red face.

Here are some more college students practicing their 1st amendment rights.

High school students harassed and peppered with racial slurs during a visit to Texas A&M

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027604695

ryan_cats

(2,061 posts)
4. They have it so
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 01:47 PM
Feb 2016

They have it so tough going to an inner school ghetto like Yale.

Luckily my father had WWII as a lucky option and my generation had Vietnam.

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
5. Because the "that" is nothing more than one blissninny snowflake's opinion
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 02:00 PM
Feb 2016

And not a condition of the position

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
7. Try teaching about the evolution of the portrayal of sexuality in literature and cinema
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 02:56 PM
Feb 2016

I know an english professor who has been suffering the last couple of years as she is confronted by students firmly of the opinion most works of english literature and film are too offensive for public airing.

 

CanSocDem

(3,286 posts)
8. Indeed.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 03:17 PM
Feb 2016


There seems to be a generation of "students" that have no idea of the public purpose of education. As far as they care, university is where you go to feel good about yourself. In the USA that doesn't necessarily mean 'becoming educated', as we are regularly entertained with 'students' devolving intellectually, as they try to fit into a job and a marriage.

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hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
9. that sounds horrible
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 03:26 PM
Feb 2016

For one thing, I would not have the slightest idea what I was talking about.

Then again, when has that ever stopped me?

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
11. You just have the man... uhh... operate the pause button
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 03:33 PM
Feb 2016

so you can give a "trigger warning" before Jack Nicholson slaps Faye Dunaway.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
13. All students should be forced to watch Fear and Loathing on their first freshman day
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 04:07 PM
Feb 2016

If they can't handle this then they can't handle college LOL





 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
10. In my day, we would have found much more creative ways to express our displeasure with her
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 03:32 PM
Feb 2016

Last edited Fri Feb 12, 2016, 10:57 PM - Edit history (1)

she would have been satirized in many if not all of the campus humor magazines, for instance. The times, they are a-changin', and not for the better.

go home and save your parents a shitload of money


A common misconception. Yale and most of the other Ivies offer much better aid packages than other schools, thanks to their YUGE endowments. I would wager, though, that most of those poor souls whose delicate fee-fees were hurt by the prof are trust-fund types.

K-A, Y'85.

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
21. I wanted to go to Brown, and I got in, but social anxiety kept me close to home.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 09:07 PM
Feb 2016

Of course, a full ride to a state school meant no debt at all, uh, until I went back to get my Masters, of course. Still... ah, the good old days.

Still, I ended up in a "feud" of sorts with the university president, via the newspaper, because I also worked for the electrical and learned about some rather fraudulent perks he was appropriating for himself. Still, I can't imagine this approach with anyone, especially over something that is not related, oh, say hunger, actual abuse, etc...

Still, thanks for your perspective. I appreciate it.

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
14. Just once I'd like someone to tell one of these precious babies to grow the eff up & not back down.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 05:42 PM
Feb 2016

"It is your job to create a space of comfort and home for the students......."

Where do they get this shit? I have a 7 year old special needs nephew who doesn't expect this kind of coddling. These children will last about 5 minutes in the real world.

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
19. Hold the applause: Millennials think we should stop clapping – and start finger snapping
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 09:02 PM
Feb 2016
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3323166/Some-college-students-Yale-Brown-prefer-finger-snapping-applause.html

'Finger-snapping is done delicately, respectfully, democratically, always in the middle of an event, whereas hand-clapping, which is by definition louder and more disruptive, is invariably reserved for the end.


Clearly, none of these people have ever been to a jazz show, much less a rock show, where solos get serious clapping and shouting throughout the performance.

The snapping seemed rude and lame, to me.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,374 posts)
23. I hope it's not gang-related:
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 09:22 PM
Feb 2016

When you're a Jet,
You're a Jet all the way,
From your first cigarette
To your last dying day.

Much finger snapping there.

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