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cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 03:13 PM Jun 2012

"I know from detailed plans and there is nothing there."

From "This Week" Sunday morning. (Read the whole thing linked below. Very amusing.)


STEPHANOPOULOS: what would Governor Romney do right now -- not in the future -- right now, to get the economy moving again?

(ROMNEY SURROGATE) FEHRNSTROM: Well, it's not just, as Paul says, tax policy. That's part of it, of course, but it's also spending policy, it's regulatory policy. It's confronting China on their unfair trade practices. It's -- it's a whole -- it's labor policy, George.

The governor has laid out very detailed plans. People can go to mittromney.com and learn about them for themselves. But I think what we really have here...

KRUGMAN: ... ...I know from detailed plans and there is nothing there.


WILL: ...Where does the governor stand, Governor Romney, on the Ryan plan? Does he endorse it?

FEHRNSTROM: Oh, he's for -- he's for -- he's for the Ryan plan. He believes it goes in the right direction. The governor has also put forward a plan to reduce spending by $500 billion by the year 2016. In fact, he's put details on the table about how exactly he would achieve that. So to say he doesn't have a plan to -- a plan to restrain government spending is just not true.

KRUGMAN: Can I say, the Ryan plan -- and I guess this is what counts as a personal attack -- but it isn't. It's not an attack on the person; it's an attack on the plan. The plan's a fraud. The plan is a big bunch of tax cuts, some specified spending cuts, basically for poor people, and then a huge magic asterisk which is supposed to turn into a deficit reduction plan, but, in fact, if you look what's actually in it, it's a deficit-increasing plan. And so to say that -- just tell the truth that there is really no plan there, neither from Ryan, nor from Governor Romney, is just the truth. That's not -- if that's -- if that's being harsh and partisan, gosh, then I guess the truth is anti-bipartisanship.



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"I know from detailed plans and there is nothing there." (Original Post) cthulu2016 Jun 2012 OP
How novel and unusual to have a Liberal on the show to wilsonbooks Jun 2012 #1
I'm sure it won't happen again. tanyev Jun 2012 #6
A corporate hiccup. nt valerief Jun 2012 #20
He has the Flatpicker Jun 2012 #2
This one is new to me. A Simple Game Jun 2012 #10
Yikes! It sounds like different tax rates depending on where you live. HooptieWagon Jun 2012 #11
That is what it sounds like. n/t A Simple Game Jun 2012 #14
High taxes for blue states, low for red states. bluedigger Jun 2012 #12
A scary thought but very likely. A Simple Game Jun 2012 #15
Imagine that Romnified. bluedigger Jun 2012 #19
k kentuck Jun 2012 #3
Beautiful! Go Krugman! Tennessee Gal Jun 2012 #4
k&r deutsey Jun 2012 #5
Vox Clamantis RVN VET Jun 2012 #7
Great post and The Wizard Jun 2012 #8
+1000 and welcome to DU Auntie Bush Jun 2012 #16
romney= empty suit spanone Jun 2012 #9
Classic! Although Krugman may 'blow' if it keeps up (as your coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #13
How 'bout that. I spent so much time yelling "You lying POS" at the TeeVee... DCKit Jun 2012 #17
My wife refuses to allow me to watch the Sunday news programs any more because coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #18

wilsonbooks

(972 posts)
1. How novel and unusual to have a Liberal on the show to
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 04:31 PM
Jun 2012

refute the nonsense of the right. It must have been a scheduling mistake.

Flatpicker

(894 posts)
2. He has the
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 04:50 PM
Jun 2012

Same platform that the GOP has had for decades.

Tax Cuts for the top.


From the Mitt website:

Make permanent, across-the-board 20 percent cut in marginal rates
Maintain current tax rates on interest, dividends, and capital gains
Eliminate taxes for taxpayers with AGI below $200,000 on interest, dividends, and capital gains
Eliminate the Death Tax
Repeal the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT)

Cut the corporate rate to 25 percent
Strengthen and make permanent the R&D tax credit
Switch to a territorial tax system
Repeal the corporate Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT)

Same ol' Same ol'

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
11. Yikes! It sounds like different tax rates depending on where you live.
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 11:21 AM
Jun 2012

Wow, that sounds like potential for abuse.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
15. A scary thought but very likely.
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 12:08 PM
Jun 2012

The fact is most blue states subsidize most red states already.

Most blue states pay in more than they get back and most red states pay in less than the receive.

RVN VET

(492 posts)
7. Vox Clamantis
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 08:37 AM
Jun 2012

"Vox clamantis in deserto mediarum."

Forgive the Latin, I think Mr. Krugman is right on, but his wisdom is largely ignored by people who should be hanging on his every word. All major media spokespersons are sell-outs to the wealthy. All Republicans, ditto. And too many Democrats have either sold out, themselves, or are foolishly laying back in the insane hope that this will somehow all blow over. "This" being the dismantling of the Republic and, with it, the rights and dignity of each individual citizen.

There may yet be a glimmer of hope that the tide can be reversed. That's why I'm watching Wisconsin. That's why I'll watch the House and Senate elections in November. I'm watching -- but not holding my breath in anticipation of Democratic victories. Too many people like the Republican message, even though it's mostly without substance -- and has been proven, time and again, to be without substance. But people like it because it's simple and easy to follow: "The rich will hire you if you cut their taxes."

And a President who has had to struggle to overcome an enormous economic debacle caused by his predecessor, is hamstrung by the Republicans who have admitted, time and again, that their number one -- in many ways their only -- goal is to defeat him. The Republicans have assiduously worked against him and the National welfare. The Republicans have not only fought the President's efforts to solve the economic problems foisted on him by his predecessor, they have blamed him for the mess they have caused and nurtured. They have blamed him, in the main, successfully.

Tomorrow in Wisconsin we will see the first sign of the direction the people, the American voters, want the US to take. They can vote for corrupt rule by moneyed oligarchs, or for a strong -- and strengthened -- citizenry. I'm almost afraid to look.





The Wizard

(12,545 posts)
8. Great post and
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 08:50 AM
Jun 2012

welcome aboard. Wisconsin could be called a test case for the corrupt Citizens United decision. The most corrupt Supreme (really mediocre) Court in history has compromised our democracy. Some justices belong in the Gray Bar Hotel and License Plate Factory.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
16. +1000 and welcome to DU
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 12:16 PM
Jun 2012

You are off to a good start! Thanks for explaining my feelings and thougts better than I can.

 

DCKit

(18,541 posts)
17. How 'bout that. I spent so much time yelling "You lying POS" at the TeeVee...
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 12:24 PM
Jun 2012

I missed most of the interview.

Thanks for the transcript.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
18. My wife refuses to allow me to watch the Sunday news programs any more because
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 12:29 PM
Jun 2012

she got tired of all my shouting Ah, the sounds of silence.

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