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CBS news just said that Walker could lose on Tuesday (Original Post) malaise Jun 2012 OP
I sure hope they are right. On the other hand they could be wrong. southernyankeebelle Jun 2012 #1
We got our focus on them, anyway. K & R. freshwest Jun 2012 #5
Same here malaise Jun 2012 #11
I will NOT watch MJ on Wednesday if the unthinkable happens! I refuse! CTyankee Jun 2012 #22
The sad thing is doing the right could lose because of money. southernyankeebelle Jun 2012 #26
ho hum.... PatrynXX Jun 2012 #44
He's goin' down! lastlib Jun 2012 #61
True we need to remember that. Plus remember that across this country. southernyankeebelle Jun 2012 #27
And I am saying Walker "will lose", no room for "could" here. crunch60 Jun 2012 #12
I like your positive thinking. I hang on your positive thinking. I want you to be right. southernyankeebelle Jun 2012 #25
--- or it could be a tie score. jerseyjack Jun 2012 #50
Oh god I didn't think of that. southernyankeebelle Jun 2012 #53
Actually, I had a positive thought about the 160,000 ballots that .... Left Coast2020 Jun 2012 #56
I really am trying. southernyankeebelle Jun 2012 #57
Would much rather they had said he WILL lose on Tuesday. Tennessee Gal Jun 2012 #2
BWAAAHAAAHAAAHAAA!!! NYC_SKP Jun 2012 #3
LOL that's what we call Brownback proud2BlibKansan Jun 2012 #40
What was their reasoning? New poll numbers? senseandsensibility Jun 2012 #4
Cynical take: probably an attempt to scare Walker supporters into voting deutsey Jun 2012 #6
Or, get his opponents to stay home, thinking it's in the bag. GoCubsGo Jun 2012 #19
+ 1 n/t ejbr Jun 2012 #42
Hope so, but it was probably low ratings byeya Jun 2012 #7
They didn't cite any malaise Jun 2012 #10
Or just covering their asses. progressoid Jun 2012 #23
music to our ears -- beautiful sound eowyn_of_rohan Jun 2012 #8
So mote it be. kestrel91316 Jun 2012 #9
K+R for luck! ThatsMyBarack Jun 2012 #13
ABC is owned by who? OVERPAID01 Jun 2012 #14
They are owned by The Walt Disney Corporation. GoCubsGo Jun 2012 #18
Wrong network Jack Rabbit Jun 2012 #32
Go back and read OVERPAID01's subject line... GoCubsGo Jun 2012 #36
Walker's lead in Wisconsin recall election tightens in new poll wpelb Jun 2012 #75
Let's hope that this doesn't suppress the vote. The Republicans and their MSM supporters AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #15
k&r... spanone Jun 2012 #16
Stop the Koch Bros from declaring themselves Caesar on Tuesday! Initech Jun 2012 #17
this vote will ONLY be a big deal if walker wins...otherwise, the media will downplay it spanone Jun 2012 #20
It's a sign of sickness that there's even a question. Gregorian Jun 2012 #21
And how will they report it? kentuck Jun 2012 #24
Have no fear they'll have some back up story to cover wall to wall malaise Jun 2012 #28
I heard a Waker supporter talking about voter suppression. So they will crunch60 Jun 2012 #43
They won't Cosmocat Jun 2012 #66
Do the Kochs get their money back if Walker loses ? n/t KurtNYC Jun 2012 #29
I hope not malaise Jun 2012 #31
did they mention the cloud of John Doe hanging over his head? Voice for Peace Jun 2012 #30
All well and good, but what makes them say that? Jack Rabbit Jun 2012 #33
We can only hope derby378 Jun 2012 #34
A relative of mine was in Ripon last weekend indivisibleman Jun 2012 #35
i sure hope you can recall the weasle too. iemitsu Jun 2012 #38
Hey Malaise, we're busting our butts here in WI! Greybnk48 Jun 2012 #37
a good report greybnk. iemitsu Jun 2012 #39
Wisconsin has been my inspiration for the past year malaise Jun 2012 #45
THANK you for your phone work! May the results be in "our" favor! FailureToCommunicate Jun 2012 #47
THANK YOU! writes3000 Jun 2012 #58
K&R SunSeeker Jun 2012 #41
Keep hoping TomClash Jun 2012 #46
Only if Wisconsin Dems learned their lesson from the Supreme Court special election L. Coyote Jun 2012 #48
Swift Kick! sarcasmo Jun 2012 #49
RCP Average has Walker leading by 6.6 pts BlueDemKev Jun 2012 #51
Wasn't the last poll before the debates and Clinton? nt Quixote1818 Jun 2012 #52
Post-Debate Poll BlueDemKev Jun 2012 #68
I agree with Debbie, I don't think the world is going to fall apart and it could bulster their clame uponit7771 Jun 2012 #76
Polling at or above 50% wpelb Jun 2012 #78
Make it so... K&R FSogol Jun 2012 #54
In a just world he would. Never mind could! n/t Fearless Jun 2012 #55
PPP poll coming out tonight between 11 and midnight saw this posted on twitter jn2375 Jun 2012 #59
Is it to much to wish for a double whammy here? Marie Marie Jun 2012 #60
Please, oh, Please libodem Jun 2012 #62
yays! flamingdem Jun 2012 #63
Keyword "could" itsrobert Jun 2012 #64
hope so, but the media also loves to create horse races out of nothing (n/t) thesquanderer Jun 2012 #65
Explain cause I don't get it... whatacountry09 Jun 2012 #67
Whoa! Way to take a definitive stand! WinkyDink Jun 2012 #69
CBS news just said that Walker could lose on Tuesday Joseph28 Jun 2012 #70
"could" lose Highway61 Jun 2012 #71
Well, yes-- I believe that's the point of an election. Marr Jun 2012 #72
In what context? Did a news anchor say this, or a pundit? shcrane71 Jun 2012 #73
Meaningless statement wpelb Jun 2012 #74
I shall say a prayer Douglas Carpenter Jun 2012 #77
He is a loser every day of the week! The Wielding Truth Jun 2012 #79
I am sure they are going to try to "pencil whip" us. We still have all those Diebald voting machine Dustlawyer Jun 2012 #80
WGN Chicago just said he'll win by 3-9% Doctor_J Jun 2012 #81

malaise

(269,057 posts)
11. Same here
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 06:32 PM
Jun 2012

Would I like to see Joe Scum's face on Wednesday morning if he loses.
Remember though Dems need one seat among the other recalls and the legislative branch switches.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
22. I will NOT watch MJ on Wednesday if the unthinkable happens! I refuse!
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 07:12 PM
Jun 2012

I will not listen to his moralistic saying how the "people" decided this. Bullshit!

I'll be done with lots of MSM if we don't win on Tuesday...really upset about this whole thing...

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
44. ho hum....
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 08:35 PM
Jun 2012

yeah but there'll be the question of Scott the bot wins. is it worth it or was worth it... well if we pick up a seat hell yes it was worth it and odds are more than generous on that. That and he'll probably be charged with corruption if he does win. then it becomes expensive.

Left Coast2020

(2,397 posts)
56. Actually, I had a positive thought about the 160,000 ballots that ....
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 10:01 PM
Jun 2012

..... came in wednesday/Thursday--as reported on the Ed Show. I really do have a feeling this will come out good. Lets all be positive.

Then on Wednesday we'll all be doing this...

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
6. Cynical take: probably an attempt to scare Walker supporters into voting
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 06:22 PM
Jun 2012

Still, my optimistic side says: here's hoping it's true.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
19. Or, get his opponents to stay home, thinking it's in the bag.
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 07:06 PM
Jun 2012

From all I have been hearing and reading, that isn't going to happen.

malaise

(269,057 posts)
10. They didn't cite any
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 06:30 PM
Jun 2012

Was quite a detailed presentation where they looked at the implications for a variety of stakeholders

 

OVERPAID01

(71 posts)
14. ABC is owned by who?
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 06:44 PM
Jun 2012

ABC just announced (5 minutes ago) that polls show Walker winning out right. I recall faux news stating that despite a 55 to 45% exit poll data during Bush vs. Gore, in favor of Gore winning in Florida, polls can not be taken seriously. I wonder why we are supposed to take ABC's poll serious?

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
18. They are owned by The Walt Disney Corporation.
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 07:04 PM
Jun 2012

That explains their Mickey Mouse news programming. They're the worst of the three broadcast networks in that department.

wpelb

(338 posts)
75. Walker's lead in Wisconsin recall election tightens in new poll
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 01:09 PM
Jun 2012

Another day, another poll:

By Rachel Rose Hartman
June 4, 2012

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker maintains a narrow lead in his recall election, but his standing has diminished in recent weeks, according to a new poll released on the eve of the election.

Walker leads Democratic challenger Tom Barrett, the mayor of Milwaukee, by just 3 percentage points in a new survey of likely voters ( pdf) conducted by Public Policy Polling. Walker leads Barrett 50 to 47 percent, down from the 50 to 45 percent matchup PPP found in a poll conducted three weeks ago. The margin of error for this week's poll is plus or minus 2.8 percent.


Link
 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
15. Let's hope that this doesn't suppress the vote. The Republicans and their MSM supporters
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 06:55 PM
Jun 2012

are willing to use dirty tricks.

spanone

(135,844 posts)
20. this vote will ONLY be a big deal if walker wins...otherwise, the media will downplay it
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 07:07 PM
Jun 2012

trust me....

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
21. It's a sign of sickness that there's even a question.
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 07:10 PM
Jun 2012

What a reflection on the quality of this country. Toss out the garbage, and get this country into rehab.

malaise

(269,057 posts)
28. Have no fear they'll have some back up story to cover wall to wall
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 07:22 PM
Jun 2012

If he loses this will be an afterthought

 

crunch60

(1,412 posts)
43. I heard a Waker supporter talking about voter suppression. So they will
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 08:32 PM
Jun 2012

probably use that and money from Big Unions, yea, that's the ticket.

Cosmocat

(14,566 posts)
66. They won't
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 07:13 AM
Jun 2012

This is a BIG deal, and if it a D, it would be regular national news.

Crickets chirping all along.

As noted, Walker wins by one vote, the Scarboros of the world will have their righteous snark on.

He loses, it will be dismissed on the rare moments it is mentioned.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
33. All well and good, but what makes them say that?
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 07:38 PM
Jun 2012

Curious minds want to know.

I've seen reports of polls showing Walker with a comfortable margin, but that was about a month ago and all he's gotten is bad news since. Still, the last polls I've seen have him about even.

Of course, I think he should be recalled, then tarred and feathered with the Koch brothers. Then we'll work on criminal indictments. But I digress.

Why does CBS say that?

derby378

(30,252 posts)
34. We can only hope
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 07:43 PM
Jun 2012

It's time for unions to stage a resurgence after being kicked around for the last 30 years.

indivisibleman

(482 posts)
35. A relative of mine was in Ripon last weekend
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 07:44 PM
Jun 2012

and the conservatives he spoke with were very fearful that they were going to lose.
Walker did terrible in the debates and Barrett was very good. We know of one person who watched Walker's performance and decided to vote against him because of it. How many more are there like her.
Boy we sure hope we can stop this man.

Greybnk48

(10,168 posts)
37. Hey Malaise, we're busting our butts here in WI!
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 08:05 PM
Jun 2012

I worked the phones today for 2 1/2--3 hours calling people who are not "regular" voters and I was pleasantly surprised by the response. Besides election fatigue, many I called were excited to vote for Tom Barrett or against Walker. A few hung up on me, but only about four out of about 100. Again. My list was of people that only usually vote for the President at most.

I'm excited!

iemitsu

(3,888 posts)
39. a good report greybnk.
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 08:11 PM
Jun 2012

anecdotal but just the sort of story that could spell trouble for walker.
i hope others calling had the same experience and that everyone in the state with brains gets to the voting booth on tuesday (or before).

malaise

(269,057 posts)
45. Wisconsin has been my inspiration for the past year
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 08:35 PM
Jun 2012

We've been buying only Wisconsin cheese since then.

Recall that scumbag Walker and those other ReTHUGs


writes3000

(4,734 posts)
58. THANK YOU!
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 10:18 PM
Jun 2012

I really appreciate all of your work. I'll donate more tomorrow. Please keep up the good work.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
48. Only if Wisconsin Dems learned their lesson from the Supreme Court special election
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 08:45 PM
Jun 2012

That, of course, is one of two possible lessons:

1.) Don't let them cheat and steal votes, or
2.) Get out the vote in the City of Milwaukee.

Some will remember the Milwaukee Anomaly, a huge red shift in the very bluest part of the state while the rest of WI shifted blue.
Did the blue voters stay home only in Milwaukee, or did someone rig the election in Democrat-rich Milwaukee?




http://jqjacobs.net/politics/spreadsheets.html#wisconsin

If they want to win this one, Milwaukee is where they have to focus either a powerful get out the vote effort or a high level of scrutiny. I recommend BOTH!

BlueDemKev

(3,003 posts)
51. RCP Average has Walker leading by 6.6 pts
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 09:11 PM
Jun 2012

Things just aren't looking as good as we'd hoped for at this point. Still, it's not over 'till it's over, and every single progressive in Wisconsin MUST get to the polls and vote on Tuesday--without fail.

BlueDemKev

(3,003 posts)
68. Post-Debate Poll
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 09:28 AM
Jun 2012

The PPP (a Democratic poll) taken over the weekend (June 2-3) has Walker leading 50% to 47% (sample was of 1,200 likely voters). I don't think Barrett is going to make it. What's sad is that this recall was a HUGE gamble: winning it would be great, but if we lose the ramifications could be catastrophic:

1) Obama would be very vulnerable in a state that he cannot afford to lose. If Wisconsin's 10 electoral votes go to Romney and Obama loses the election while winning between 260 and 269 electoral votes (just shy of the 270 needed to win) we'll ALL be kicking ourselves for this recall.

2) A Walker victory will embolden other Republican governors and legislatures across the country to end collective bargaining in their states which will essentially destroy unions--the only organized group powerful enough to match corporate $ in the post-Citizens United era.

Damn.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
76. I agree with Debbie, I don't think the world is going to fall apart and it could bulster their clame
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 01:11 PM
Jun 2012

....that money talks in elections..

IF Walker also has to be charged in an investigation that isn't going to go well either.

The Kock brothers aren't going to throw 30million towards other kkkon governors either

wpelb

(338 posts)
78. Polling at or above 50%
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 01:15 PM
Jun 2012

If a candidate consistently polls at or above 50%, it means that even if the undecideds go the other way, the candidate has the election in the bag. Consistent polls at 50%+ also reduce the likelihood of polling error (i.e., one poll could be an outlier, but multiple polls aren't likely to all be outliers in the same direction).

"Dewey Defeats Truman" isn't impossible, but it is highly unlikely in this day and age, where polling is sophisticated and continues up to election eve.

jn2375

(910 posts)
59. PPP poll coming out tonight between 11 and midnight saw this posted on twitter
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 10:24 PM
Jun 2012

keeping fingers crossed

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
60. Is it to much to wish for a double whammy here?
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 10:33 PM
Jun 2012

He loses the recall election AND gets indicted and sent to prison.

whatacountry09

(91 posts)
67. Explain cause I don't get it...
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 09:08 AM
Jun 2012

Isn't this big 'recall' being implemented because they want him out? Many people want him out? Then how and why is it possible for him to win?

Highway61

(2,568 posts)
71. "could" lose
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 09:52 AM
Jun 2012

The fact that this is even CLOSE boggels my mind. The willfully ignorant having a vote in any election just pisses me off.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
72. Well, yes-- I believe that's the point of an election.
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 09:58 AM
Jun 2012

Just out of curiosity, did they go to a weatherman who explained that we might have rain or maybe sun?

wpelb

(338 posts)
74. Meaningless statement
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 01:04 PM
Jun 2012

Anything could happen at any time. I could be struck by a meteorite tomorrow. I could get up and go to work. Which is more likely?

Could simply indicates possibility, not probability, and definitely not certainty. The polls are close (Walker +3, according to a recent survey), so any outcome is still possible.

My guess is he'll be retained by 1 or 2 points.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
80. I am sure they are going to try to "pencil whip" us. We still have all those Diebald voting machine
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 02:28 PM
Jun 2012

I have not heard much about them lately but they are like Wall Street regulations, nothing will change. If they have resorted to purge lists, hacking the voting machines is no big deal!

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
81. WGN Chicago just said he'll win by 3-9%
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 03:06 PM
Jun 2012

more likely, IMO. Maybe some day we'll start fighting back for real, but I don't see it happening in my life time.

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