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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy don't we have a national holiday to vote?
Its probably been discussed here a lot, but we really need legislation to get this done. It should be a part of any Democratic candidate's platform.
Jester Messiah
(4,711 posts)kennetha
(3,666 posts)EmperorHasNoClothes
(4,797 posts)Even if voting day is a national holiday, some people won't get it off.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)the other.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)CincyDem
(6,405 posts)We don't have a national holiday to vote because, well...then more people would vote.
Active voter suppression via ID laws, polling place "issues", etc are a fundamental Republican strategy.
Passive voter suppression via alienating people from the process or trying to sell false equivalence between the parties (i.e. your vote won't matter) is also part of it.
When people participate in the voting process, the future wins and traditionally, the future favors the Democratic party platforms.
As long as Rethugs control states, this will never happen.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)daleanime
(17,796 posts)and yes.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)brooklynite
(94,768 posts)New York State will have three Primaries and the General election. Do some elections count for more than others?
daleanime
(17,796 posts)and one federal holiday.
BlueMTexpat
(15,374 posts)In fact, in 2005, a specifically-proposed Democracy Day was introduced by Rep John Conyers (D-MI) and Senator Debbie Stabenow (D-MI) - yes "Establishment" Dems both. The bill was unsuccessful. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Day_(United_States)
Dang 'em. Not only have both endorsed Hillary Clinton for President, but they proposed that bill before Bernie proposed a similar bill in 2015. https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/114/s1969
So yes, the need for such has been recognized and legislation has been drafted. Getting that legislation passed, however, is problematic, to say the least. We can still hope.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)That they're batting .500. We just disagree on which ones were hits and which ones were misses.
brewens
(13,626 posts)places and anything else we could do to make it more convenient for working people to vote. Then they realized it was benefiting democrats more. Seems that a lot of the working people that had been having trouble getting to the poles were a little darker skinned than they had imagined and didn't vote republican.
Now republicans are trying to make it tougher to vote everywhere they feel it will help their cause. Early voting sure helps me get my vote in. I'm a white guy in Idaho. Last election it was really tough to find out when and where to go vote though. I ended up calling the DMV where it had been last time to find out. It had been moved to an adjacent building but I was able to find out the hours anyway.
I wondered if that was planned. It sure seemed like that information should have turned up in a web search somehow.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Schools are closed, etc. It's like part of the trend to keep businesses open even on holidays that affects it.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)I've heard it works great in the places that have it.
Igel
(35,362 posts)Mostly I hear that from people, sources, etc., that like the idea. They compare it with other states' turnouts, and say that's the reason.
Then I went to the Oregon website that tracks such things, and tried to spot the year vote-by-mail took effect for the general election.
http://sos.oregon.gov/elections/Documents/Voter_Turnout_History_General_Election.pdf. I concluded it had to be 1984, but it was 2000. The 2000 election had average turnout. Lower than some non-vote-by-mail years, higher than some others. What mattered was the details of the election, not the manner of voting.
Hard to spot the significance of vote by mail, entirely or partially, in voter turnout for the primaries.
http://sos.oregon.gov/elections/Documents/Voter-Turnout-History-Primary.pdf . For that the magic year was 1996, but that was below the turnout for the previous 2 decades of primaries.
If you compare vote-by-mail over time, it made no difference in Oregon. But turnout in Oregon was already high by comparison with other states, so the bally-hooed "improvement" is what's called a confound. It looks like it has one cause, but, in fact, there's no clear causal relationship between the two. Perhaps they're randomly associated, perhaps they're both due to the same underlying factor, perhaps there's a feedback loop between them, but it's not "cause and effect" as usually billed. If you pick and choose the right years to average, you can find a spurious link, but that's called data dredging.