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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 12:29 AM Feb 2016

Denying Services On Religious Beliefs Spreading & Dangerous.

Where will efforts to deny public services to certain groups based on religious beliefs end? Efforts to pass laws allowing "believers" to deny services to groups or individuals they disapprove of is very egregious and even dangerous. Somehow we must stop this totally undemocratic and unAmerican trend.

Such efforts are growing at the state level. Efforts to deny trans gender individuals any civil rights is mean and cruel.

Such efforts must be battled with extreme prejudice. The kind of American these bigoted entities desire is not the kind of America we should tolerate. And if we must attack these fake religions themselves so be it.

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Denying Services On Religious Beliefs Spreading & Dangerous. (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Feb 2016 OP
great mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #1
I'm Less Optimistic ProfessorGAC Feb 2016 #5
When I was a little kid, is someone got too... 3catwoman3 Feb 2016 #2
We get it, you don't like Christians but they aren't the only group out there with moral observances Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #3
No, they just tend to be awoke_in_2003 Feb 2016 #7
RFI: expand and clarify Fla_Democrat Feb 2016 #4
What I Mean Is That We Attack These Fundamentalists As The Fake Religions They Are. TheMastersNemesis Feb 2016 #6
Okay, first of all your making contradicting claims. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #8

mgmaggiemg

(869 posts)
1. great
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 12:44 AM
Feb 2016

I think the stars are aligning in the direction of hope...however when people start pruning the bad branches of the tree they get violent and fight to survive....according to the southern poverty law center....we are experience the most violence and domestic terrorism since 1968...with a liberal scotus about to be nominated and appointed I think we (americans with a conscience) will make progress ...but it's not going to be without a fight....so if americans fight for human/civil rights in the courts I believe they can win...but it's still going to be just that....a fight.... cheers to you Maggie

ProfessorGAC

(65,076 posts)
5. I'm Less Optimistic
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 09:08 AM
Feb 2016

As long as someone can use the argument "'cuz god says so" we're stuck.

I'm 59 and for a reasonable amount of my adult life the people with these behaviors were considered part of the lunatic fringe.

The politics of divisiveness have allowed these people to consider themselves, and be considered, as part of the mainstream.

It's not better than it was 25 years ago. It's worse.

3catwoman3

(24,007 posts)
2. When I was a little kid, is someone got too...
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 01:52 AM
Feb 2016

...personal or intrusive in their questions or observations, they were told to MYOB. All these righteous religious busybodies need to MYOB.

Fla_Democrat

(2,547 posts)
4. RFI: expand and clarify
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 07:45 AM
Feb 2016

Such efforts must be battled with extreme prejudice. The kind of American these bigoted entities desire is not the kind of America we should tolerate. And if we must attack these fake religions themselves so be it.






 

TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
6. What I Mean Is That We Attack These Fundamentalists As The Fake Religions They Are.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 12:09 PM
Feb 2016

We need to frame these organizations as businesses subject to the same taxes. We need to claim that they are NOT legitimate religions. We need to attack them the same way they attack Islam or any other religion THEY claim is not legitimate. How would they react to demonstrations at their churches. Or how would the pro life idiot reply is there were counter demonstrations that outnumbered them and was just as vocal.

Any idiot can take out a bible and claim they are a religion. All the need is enough fools to give them money. And the Catholic bishops should be tole to mind their own business.

Go after the concept of "religious freedom" as they define it. And make it clear this is a secular government and religious freedom to discriminate will still be illegal no matter what your damned beliefs are.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
8. Okay, first of all your making contradicting claims.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 08:31 AM
Feb 2016

You start out by saying certain businesses won't serve certain customers. Now you're saying they should be taxed as businesses.

If it makes you feel any better (though I doubt it will) businesses are, in fact, taxed as businesses.

But it is attitudes such as yours that make official church activities tax free because you are obviously so possessed of your own biases that you would use taxes and other abuses of law to destroy those you disapprove of.

And you have no room to complain.

You are on record here at DU vowing that you would never assist those whom you constantly rail against even if it meant their lives and the lives of their families were in peril.

We get it, you hate Christians but one thing you might consider is the guy who started it all mentioned something about people who point out the mote in other people's eyes while overlooking the beam in their own.

Take it as friendly advice because I honestly don't see how stewing in this much hatred as reflected in your every post can be healthy or happy. You seem to be a perpetually despondent person and I find that quite sad.

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