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The Brutalism of Ted Cruz (Original Post) kpete Feb 2016 OP
K & R. n/t FSogol Feb 2016 #1
He is a repulsive guy sharp_stick Feb 2016 #2
Like Cruz said at 18, he is into world domination, money and power. Dustlawyer Feb 2016 #27
Sounds a lot like Scalia. And they both sound like Javert phantom power Feb 2016 #3
Ted Cruz is 'running strongly among evangelical voters.' PatrickforO Feb 2016 #4
Egg-zackly AlbertCat Feb 2016 #15
Far too many evangelicals... Wounded Bear Feb 2016 #22
That's because they think Justice equals Punishment. Volaris Feb 2016 #25
Even two years for shoplifting a calculator seems egregious. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #5
The problem with that idea is assessing blame. malthaussen Feb 2016 #8
so finding the "responsible" perpetrator is difficult. AlbertCat Feb 2016 #17
If corporate crime is done in committee, then why not charge dmr Feb 2016 #20
Because then the Justice Department might have to take action. malthaussen Feb 2016 #28
Ha! Quit making sense. dmr Feb 2016 #32
Make him Work off the value of the Calculator dem in texas Feb 2016 #29
He's mean and enjoys being mean. Solly Mack Feb 2016 #6
The Dickishness is more like it. HughBeaumont Feb 2016 #7
Cruz is a Calvinist sort of Christian. MineralMan Feb 2016 #9
His daddy thinks he's the second coming too,...so he's got that going for him. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #13
Cruz is a Calvinist sort of Christian. AlbertCat Feb 2016 #18
"The rules are for thee hifiguy Feb 2016 #34
Hypocrites make great Pharisees. Octafish Feb 2016 #10
science should study his brain olddots Feb 2016 #11
Well, They Can't Study His Heart ProfessorGAC Feb 2016 #19
Just as long as they don't put it in hifiguy Feb 2016 #35
Most of those evangelical voters are against humility, mercy, compassion and grace.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #12
k and r...nt Stuart G Feb 2016 #14
I have that he was vicious. This proves it. oldandhappy Feb 2016 #16
There's no sense of decency. Shameful. n/t dmr Feb 2016 #21
Pharisaism - It pretty much describes Antonin Scalia as well nt Xipe Totec Feb 2016 #23
Cruz is an anarchist. He wants to destroy the government, so he can rebuild it into some kind Rex Feb 2016 #24
Whatever Trumpolini's faults, and they are too numerous to be catalogued, hifiguy Feb 2016 #36
I think that is the biggest difference between the two, to end the world would mean the end of Trump Rex Feb 2016 #38
Yep. World war would also be very bad for tRump's real estate values. hifiguy Feb 2016 #39
Humility, mercy, compassion and grace. 3catwoman3 Feb 2016 #26
Pharisaism--exactly. BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2016 #30
Ted Cruz is a kitty cat away from being a Bond villain. nt TeamPooka Feb 2016 #31
Only because no cat could stand to be near him. hifiguy Feb 2016 #37
I pity that kitty. nt TeamPooka Feb 2016 #41
Another major publication that sorely needs a proofreader - "brutalism" is a style of architecture. kath Feb 2016 #33
Poor, maligned brutalism dimple Feb 2016 #40
What a hateful guy robhalf4369 Feb 2016 #42

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
2. He is a repulsive guy
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 10:45 AM
Feb 2016

It's pretty telling when nobody who's worked with him in the past can think of a single decent thing to say about him.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
27. Like Cruz said at 18, he is into world domination, money and power.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 01:13 PM
Feb 2016

Oh, and he wants to be in a T&A movie!

phantom power

(25,966 posts)
3. Sounds a lot like Scalia. And they both sound like Javert
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 10:48 AM
Feb 2016

All about the legalism, and process, and punishment. Nothing about actual justice. Especially for the powerless.

PatrickforO

(14,578 posts)
4. Ted Cruz is 'running strongly among evangelical voters.'
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 10:52 AM
Feb 2016

That's because they also lack the so-called Christian virtues.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
15. Egg-zackly
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 12:46 PM
Feb 2016

It's holier than thou hubris mixed with a sense of entitlement that allows them to pass severe judgment over you.... but not themselves.... which is vanity.

Wounded Bear

(58,670 posts)
22. Far too many evangelicals...
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 12:56 PM
Feb 2016

(which as a term refers to spreading the Gospel of Jesus Christ BTW), are too embedded into the fundamentalist Judaistic legalism of the Old Testament. Hell, even most modern Jews don't adhere that strictly to the Old Testament, which is after all the Jewish "bible."

So for them, Teddy's position seems entirely legitimate. After all, if he is truly innocent, God will be merciful in the afterlife, right?

Volaris

(10,272 posts)
25. That's because they think Justice equals Punishment.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 12:59 PM
Feb 2016

It is rather old testament of them, isn't it.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
5. Even two years for shoplifting a calculator seems egregious.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 10:52 AM
Feb 2016

A calculator costs what, maybe between five bucks and a hundred bucks or so for a cheap one to a semi-decent graphing one?

5-10 days in jail seems far more reasonable, even if a person IS a repeat offender. Better yet, fine them 10x what they stole or jail at a rate of a day per 20 bucks stolen maybe. And I say that goes for corporate crimes too. No more slap on the wrist fines. 10x damages. or jail time for the executives to the tune of a day per $20.

malthaussen

(17,204 posts)
8. The problem with that idea is assessing blame.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:17 AM
Feb 2016

Corporate crime is usually done by committee, so finding the "responsible" perpetrator is difficult. Imprison them all? While not without merit from an emotional standpoint, it opens a rather ugly can of worms. Another problem would be properly assessing both the value of the crime (I expect they steal a lot more than we know), and again, distributing the complicity among the criminals. It would be unjust to make Joe Blow, who personally underwrote a million dollars in bum mortgages, accountable for the entire 200 billion stolen by his bank, e.g. It would take a lot of work, and more importantly, would require institutional thinkers (bureaucrats) to properly assess and penalize the damage done by other institutional thinkers (banksters). Obvious conflict of interest there.

-- Mal

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
17. so finding the "responsible" perpetrator is difficult.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 12:47 PM
Feb 2016

Why must there be only one.

Perhaps the committee needs to look at....one at a time.

dmr

(28,347 posts)
20. If corporate crime is done in committee, then why not charge
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 12:53 PM
Feb 2016

them of conspiracy?

As you can tell I'm not a lawyer.

malthaussen

(17,204 posts)
28. Because then the Justice Department might have to take action.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 01:16 PM
Feb 2016

As you can tell, I am a cynic.

-- Mal

dem in texas

(2,674 posts)
29. Make him Work off the value of the Calculator
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 01:16 PM
Feb 2016

Would have been a better punishment and cost far less to the Taxpayer. Ted Cruz belongs to the ultra-conservative Christian movement that equates to what you are seeing in the Muslin movement. If Cruz were to be elected president, we would probably have jail for women fro having abortions and religious police on the patrol for gays and any infractions that Cruz and his ilk do not approve of. He scares the hell out me.

When he was talking about bombing until the ground glowed, the first thought that went through my mind was how many innocent people would be killed in something like that?

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
9. Cruz is a Calvinist sort of Christian.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:50 AM
Feb 2016

Humility, mercy, compassion and grace are not part of the dogma of that sect. Dominionism is, though. He was born with a defect, in that his heart is seriously underdeveloped. It's common among Calvinist types.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
18. Cruz is a Calvinist sort of Christian.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 12:52 PM
Feb 2016

Typical Southern Baptist IMHO.... "anything I do is OK (even when I don't actually do it), and anything you do is somehow subpar and deserves derision/punishment."

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
10. Hypocrites make great Pharisees.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:56 AM
Feb 2016

"Cruz is a stranger to most of what would generally be considered the Christian virtues: humility, mercy, compassion and grace."

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
35. Just as long as they don't put it in
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 06:29 PM
Feb 2016

a great white shark with a frikkin' laser beam on its head.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
12. Most of those evangelical voters are against humility, mercy, compassion and grace....
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 12:41 PM
Feb 2016

They think that stuff is making America weak.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
24. Cruz is an anarchist. He wants to destroy the government, so he can rebuild it into some kind
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 12:58 PM
Feb 2016

of Christian law enforcer. The man is insane and I fear criminally insane.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
36. Whatever Trumpolini's faults, and they are too numerous to be catalogued,
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 06:30 PM
Feb 2016

he would never torch the world in hopes of bringing baby jeebus back. Cruz would in a second.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
38. I think that is the biggest difference between the two, to end the world would mean the end of Trump
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 07:02 PM
Feb 2016

and so that will never happen. Cruz on the other hand would be gleeful to start WWIII with the Russians or China and then pretend God wanted it.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
30. Pharisaism--exactly.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 01:20 PM
Feb 2016

He serves the god of punishment, lakes of fire and eternal suffering (for YOU. Not his pious self.)




 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
37. Only because no cat could stand to be near him.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 06:31 PM
Feb 2016

Cats are generally excellent judges of character, or the lack thereof.

kath

(10,565 posts)
33. Another major publication that sorely needs a proofreader - "brutalism" is a style of architecture.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 05:27 PM
Feb 2016

"Brutality" is probably the word they were looking for.

 

dimple

(56 posts)
40. Poor, maligned brutalism
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 07:03 PM
Feb 2016
Brutalist structures are heavy and unrefined with coarsely molded surfaces, usually exposed concrete. Their highly sculptural shapes tend to be crude and blocky, often colliding with one another.

The line between brutalism and ordinary modernism is not always clear since concrete buildings are so common and run the entire spectrum of modern styles.

Designs which embrace the roughness of concrete or the heavy simplicity of its natural forms are considered brutalist.

Other materials including brick and glass can be used in brutalism if they contribute to a block-like effect similar the the strongly articulated concrete forms of early brutalism.


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