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Wow, you go to sleep one night thinking Peyton Manning's an OK guy. You wake up the next day and see this:
"Peyton Manning Allegedly Covered Up Sexual Assault."
"Peyton Manning Named in Sexual Harassment Lawsuit."
Mr. Papa John's, a sexual predator?
It can't be, right? There must be more to the story.
There is, and the details are not nearly as clear or damning as the headlines lead you to believe. The biggest one is the incident in which Manning mooned a female trainer was reported, investigated and adjudicated 20 years ago.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/os-peyton-manning-tennessee-david-whitley-0216-20160215-column.html
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)mooning.
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)Even she didn't originally claim that was what happened.
The trainer now claims Manning essentially draped everything below his belt on her face. In 1996 she signed an affidavit saying he merely exposed himself. She told investigators that she saw Manning's rear end, pushed him and said, "You're an ass."
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)is not mooning someone. Sorry.
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)You've convicted him based on one side of the story that has apparently been embellished through the years. I will reiterate that his accuser, Jamie Whited, didn't even originally make the claims that she made years later.
When did Saxon "testify" about this?
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)I will reiterate that putting one's penis and testicles on the head of another isn't mooning. I've taken the time to read the information involved (minus fanboy defenses) and am disappointed in the man. Sorry, but his writing that book and the number of people who don't support his version is enough.
(I've already sat on a jury. Drug trial. Found the defendant not guilty. That has nothing to do with this, and I wouldn't make the jury for this "case" because I'm biased now having read it all.)
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)I don't know about you, but I've changed a lot in the past twenty years. Peyton Manning probably has too.
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)not much when it comes to the placement of genitals on someone's head. And the original claims were 20 years ago. The later book came later, which speaks to not much changing. Sorry.
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)To me, twenty years worth of change is a lot, and frankly I don't believe Jamie Naughright's description in its entirety.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"I hope you never sit on a jury. You've exonerated him based on one side of the story..."
Some may perceive that as an accurate illustration of extreme bias.
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)So you would be correct. Without evidence to the contrary, I'll call him innocent.
Do I really believe that nothing happened? No, not really? Do I think he's some sort of horrible bastard because of it? Even given the extreme, that her story is absolutely true (which I don't believe), I wouldn't call it a "sexual assault."
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)It's odd that Manning originally denied even mooning her. Manning first denied that any such incident occurred. Then he claimed that his intention had been to moon fellow Tennessee athlete Malcolm Saxon, and that Naughright just happened to be there.
In her initial complaint, filed with the Tennessee Human Rights Commission and Equal Employment Opportunity Commission in 1996, Naughright refers more generally to Manning not merely mooning and that he undertook an additional act of such an egregious nature as to be beyond the pale, but she does not explicitly mention physical contact. In Naughrights deposition for the first of her two civil suits against Manning, however, she says the athlete essentially sat on her: It was the gluteus maximus, the rectum, the testicles, and the area in between the testicles. And all of that was on my face when I pushed him up and off.
[A]nd as I pushed him up to get leverage, I took my head out to push him up and off.
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)He actually rubbed his testicles on her face and put his penis on her head. That's definitely not mooning. She was simply looking at his foot because he had hurt it. She should not have had to put up with that.
The person he claims he was mooning has said that he did not moon him.
rockfordfile
(8,704 posts)Considering the company he keeps with the likes of right wing fascist John Schnatter
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)Ari Fleischer?
that's enough right there to cast doubt on anything that comes out of his camp.
Not to mention the egregious agenda of his pizza man, Schnatter, mentioned earlier in the thread:
http://boycottpapajohns.org/
to be fair, the link mentions his home is worth $600 million, which is one of the estimates of his entire net worth. Read the description, though, and it's obvious that he's got one of the largest domiciles in the US, but he hates ACA, because it would add from 3 to 15 cents to the price of one of his 'pizzas'
btw, has anyone had the misfortune to taste that crap?
Worst pizza I've ever had, bar none.
Our school used to get it because it was cheap, but there were so many complaints, we got rid of them.