Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 01:20 AM Feb 2016

Coquitlam Mayor Richard Stewart wore same suit for 15 months and nobody noticed

He said he wore a "plain, off-the-rack, boring, dark blue suit" to all public events and council meetings for 15 months in a row to highlight double standards women in politics face when it comes to appearance.

snip

"I had heard so many of the comments that sometimes happen during elections. I read an article about a journalist in Australia who'd taken a similar action," he told CBC's On The Coast guest host Chris Brown.

"Nobody noticed … It became evident to me that nobody was going to notice, that this was not simply something that we remark upon when it comes to male politicians."

Stewart managed to keep his secret from his colleagues, staff, constituents and even his own family.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/coquitlam-richard-stewart-suit-1.3459469

14 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Coquitlam Mayor Richard Stewart wore same suit for 15 months and nobody noticed (Original Post) rpannier Feb 2016 OP
good for him! nt KT2000 Feb 2016 #1
I thought so rpannier Feb 2016 #2
I don't get the point... Ino Feb 2016 #3
Unfortunately 2 is incorrect whatthehey Feb 2016 #4
That's why I said "IF women ALWAYS wore the exact same thing every day" Ino Feb 2016 #6
"I ... several of the exact same clothes" JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2016 #13
so I searched for Al Gore earth tones hfojvt Feb 2016 #8
"exact same" and "subtly different" do not mean the same thing muriel_volestrangler Feb 2016 #5
Errr... Ino Feb 2016 #7
So what would that have to do with this? He wore the same suit, so no change in colour muriel_volestrangler Feb 2016 #9
OK, let me rephrase then... Ino Feb 2016 #10
Any basis for this supposition? whatthehey Feb 2016 #11
Because it would be boring... Ino Feb 2016 #14
OK, but that's a different reality muriel_volestrangler Feb 2016 #12

Ino

(3,366 posts)
3. I don't get the point...
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:06 PM
Feb 2016

1. If he drastically changed up his outfit every day -- bright yellow suit one day, flowered tie another, bright red shoes the next, an ascot with a smoking jacket, etc. -- people would be talking about his clothes just as much as a woman's! They'd be looking forward to seeing what he wore next, commenting on whether they liked it or not, etc.

2. Conversely, if women always essentially wore the exact same thing every day -- just in subtly different but always conservative colors -- no one would be talking about their clothes either.

That no one noticed he wore the same thing every day just illustrates #2. If he wanted to draw a real comparison, he should try #1 and see if anyone notices/comments.

People notice and comment on what is different, no matter who is wearing it.

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
4. Unfortunately 2 is incorrect
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 04:23 PM
Feb 2016

Expectations are key. Women are expected to wear different outfits all the time. Consider this hardly unusual report that mentions a woman wearing the same thing as shew did months earlier.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3319704/Princess-Mary-steps-Summer-outfit-wore-August-attends-latest-women-s-rights-campaign.html

Ino

(3,366 posts)
6. That's why I said "IF women ALWAYS wore the exact same thing every day"
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 05:23 PM
Feb 2016

because SOMETIMES wearing the exact same thing is novel in itself.

I do see your point though. There is definitely pressure on women to change up their outfit all the time. If ONE woman in the news tried to do #2, someone would probably start a website with a clock showing how many days she has worn the same thing, or articles would constantly refer to her "signature suit."

But if ALL women politicians did #2 ALL the time (as men do), it would get too boring to talk about after a while. Why don't they agree among themselves to do that... in the interest of fighting sexism, and/or relieving themselves of the burden of changing outfits/buying clothes, etc.?

And if men changed up their outfits as often & as drastically as women do, it would be remarked upon as well. So... how much of it is a sexist thing, how much is a novelty thing, how much is a fashion thing?

Disclaimer: I am a female who often buys several of the exact same clothes because I hate shopping & just don't give a shit.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,343 posts)
13. "I ... several of the exact same clothes"
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 06:04 PM
Feb 2016

Ok, we believe you actually made it home last night.

(kidding!!!)

Ino

(3,366 posts)
7. Errr...
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 05:27 PM
Feb 2016

exact same thing -- pants, suit coat, tie, shirt, shoes

subtly different but always conservative colors --
suit: navy blue, navy blue with pinstripe, dark brown, charcoal, black
shirt: white, off white, light blue
shoes: black, brown, mahogany

muriel_volestrangler

(101,320 posts)
9. So what would that have to do with this? He wore the same suit, so no change in colour
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 05:36 PM
Feb 2016

and he never got comments like " you wear that too much, why don't you wear something else".

Ino

(3,366 posts)
10. OK, let me rephrase then...
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 05:45 PM
Feb 2016

2. Conversely, if women always wore the exact same thing every day no one would be talking about their clothes either.

Better?

Note I said "women" not "a woman," and "always" not "sometimes," and "every day" not "once in a while."

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
11. Any basis for this supposition?
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 05:56 PM
Feb 2016

So somehow women who are mocked for wearing the same things weeks apart would magically not be mocked if they wore the same thing every day? Why?

Ino

(3,366 posts)
14. Because it would be boring...
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 06:38 PM
Feb 2016

once the novelty of them always wearing the same thing wears off.

Please understand I'm talking about WOMEN as a GROUP wearing the same thing EVERY DAY.

Like it's so boring that men wear the same thing every day, that no one talks about it. But if one of them started dressing in bright colors, wearing a Nehru jacket one day, a leisure suit the next, etc., people would start talking about his clothes. Would that be sexist? Novelty? Fashion?

muriel_volestrangler

(101,320 posts)
12. OK, but that's a different reality
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 05:58 PM
Feb 2016

In this reality, plenty of women get adverse comments for wearing the same thing too often.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Coquitlam Mayor Richard S...