WTF: Republicans In This State Vow To Not Issue Birth Certificates To Single Mothers

[Lorien]

This is crazy. Everyone knows that it is really hard to be a single mother. Not only are you making decisions alone that will affect your child’s life forever, you can be 100 percent financially responsible for them. But Springfield, Ill. Republicans want to punish new single mothers by making their lives even harder.





Now, legislators have a bill that says, if there is no father to sign the birth certificate, the state will not issue that child a birth certificate.

That’s insane. A child without a birth certificate can be barred from public schools and universities, any hope of ever receiving financial assistance, getting a passport, and even getting a driver’s license. Since a birth certificate is the legal document that serves as proof of US citizenship, a child without one will never even be able to apply for a Social Security number.


Republican representatives John D Cavaletto and Keith Wheeler sponsored the bill that would amend the state’s Vital Records Act. Here is the bill’s draconian thrust:

‘…provides that if the unmarried mother cannot or refuses to name the child’s father, either a father must be conclusively established by DNA evidence or, within 30 days after birth, another family member who will financially provide for the child must be named, in court, on the birth certificate.’

‘Provides that absent DNA evidence or a family member’s name, a birth certificate will not be issued and the mother will be ineligible for financial aid from the State for support of the child.’


More: http://bipartisanreport.com/2016/02/24/wtf-republicans-in-this-state-vow-to-not-issue-birth-certificates-to-single-mothers/

[blm]

1. This is absolute insanity.

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[world wide wally]

3. Says it all ^

[Warpy]

2. I don't think it will get anywhere

once someone points out it only punishes "good" women who didn't have abortions after they were raped....or merely abandoned after being threatened by the sperm donor with bodily harm should he be named.

[Lorien]

4. punishing women for *any kind* of unsanctioned sex is what this is all about

these people think that rape victims deserved it and men are never to blame for anything. Basically they detest women who aren't a man's "property", just like the Taliban or Daesh. This is further evidence of their sexist ego driven madness.

[Warpy]

7. They detest women who are property just as much

if not more because such women rarely adhere to the script these men think they should follow because the women have never been given an accurate copy.

[Mariana]

19. They're punishing the children as well.

It's a fact, they don't give a flying fuck about them after they're born. They're perfectly happy to hurt the children in order to shame and punish the mothers.

[Lorien]

22. Exactly. It's all about ego, power and dominence, no compassion for anyone. nt

[RKP5637]

28. A herd of socialpaths in power!!! n/t

[Beowulf]

5. The problem is that the children were born.

We all know Republican concerns for the welfare of children end one second after they are born.

[CommonSenseDemocrat]

6. Should have gotten an abortion

[barbtries]

8. who are these people

3 out of 4 of my children born out of wedlock. wonderful people.

[madamesilverspurs]

9. With no father listed on an official document

the mother would have a hard time seeking child support.

Wonder how many out-of-wedlock kids those "representatives" are trying to weasel out of supporting?

[davsand]

47. Birth certificates are not considered proof of anything when it comes to child support in this state

This proposed bill is not rooted in any sort of legal reality in the state of Illinois. Had a long conversation about this bill yesterday with a child support enforcement attorney here in Illinois. The negative impact of this bill will be on the children and families, period. Essentially, passage of this bill is gonna leave those kids in a legal "limbo" of non-citizenship. The will not be given Social Security numbers, nor can they apply for a passport, or even a driver's license. They will be unable to register to vote, as well.

I agree with the statements that it can't withstand the test of a court, but the biggest issue is what happen to these kids and families in the meantime?


Laura

[dmr]

51. This has to be a constitutional issue. This is discrimination

that has longlasting, or rather, permanent effects.

A human being born in the United States is an American citizen and has rights that are protected under the Constitution. No legislation can take that away. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.

I'm sick of these fucking self-righteous, cruel nutjobs.

[Kalidurga]

10. This is easy to fix have everyone of those women name one of these guys as the father.

John D Cavaletto and Keith Wheeler. See how many DNA tests they are willing to pay for.

[hobbit709]

25. My thought also.

[xmas74]

53. Someone said the same thing on Jezebel.

I'd love nothing better than to watch that storm.

[beac]

55. That is perfect and exactly what they should do!

[G_j]

11. Sadistic and cruel

no other way to describe it

[MagickMuffin]

12. And don't forget without birth certificate

they are ineligible to vote, as well as the afore mentioned details.

When will men learn to stay out of women's business. These men have serious mommy issues!

[SheilaT]

13. Huh?

Just because a woman isn't married doesn't necessarily mean the father is unknown or unnamed.

And if she chooses not to name the father, who gives a fuck?

[No Vested Interest]

14. I can't imagine a law such as this would stand very long when

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tested in a court.

[TreasonousBastard]

15. This is monstrous. Not only is there no...

point to it other than punishing a woman for having a child out of wedlock, but it opens up terrible challenges for rape pregnancies that go to term, sperm banks, and just plain ol' privacy.

And while it pretends to punish the mother, it is really punishing the child who will grow up with no identity. He or she won't vote, go to school, or have any basic rights.

Now, the workaround would be to get a baptismal certificate, which restores at least some of those rights and identity questions. That, however is a sorry thing to have to do to solve an inhuman problem that shouldn't exist to begin with.

With any luck, this thing will die a quick death.

[B Calm]

16. Illinois republicans are already the laughing stock of America by not passing a budget.

[hollysmom]

17. I had a friend in college that told me how upset her mother was when she learned that

they no longer printed bastard on baby birth certificates. She was reading the paper and said if that were true when my friend was born the mother would have never married the father.
Republicans want to go back to shaming women when they get pregnant outside of marriage and for men, well it is just boys will be boys - free viagra for all!!!! but birth control will cost you.

I know that enough women hate other women because they did not have the nerve to ever have fun when they were young. Heck, I still have fun as an old person. must make me a li-brul

[Ilsa]

18. The backhanded slap after making abortion almost illegal...

For awhile, the excuse to not have an abortion was that the mom could get state aid to help raise her child, so no abortion is needed. Now that it's almost impossible to get one in many places, they are looking for ways to deny state aid to single moms and babies.

These people are beyond cruel. It's one thing to deny public assistance. But to deny the b.c. basically turns the baby into a non-person.

[Vinca]

20. What nasty, horrible people.

Love the fetus, hate the child.

[MineralMan]

21. Many bills are introduced. Far fewer are passed.

I suggest that this bill will die in committee.

[ProfessorGAC]

23. These Two Idiots Are Just Tossing Red Meat

They must live in central or southern illiniois in very, very red districts. They can go home and beat their chest and then blame "the man" for why they couldn't get the law passed.

[librechik]

24. now your business is every Nazis business

oops, did I say Nazi out loud?

[ladjf]

26. That can't be legal. nt

[Chan790]

27. Will not withstand Constitutional challenge.

The states may not do or take any action that in any way impedes or abrogates the assertion of citizenship of any rightful US citizen.

Either Illinois will be forced to capitulate and overturn this law, it will be struck by the courts or it'll lead to something conservatives hate the idea of even more...a national birth registry.

[hifiguy]

44. You are correct.

[yellowcanine]

29. Pretty sure such a bill would be unConstitutional.

You cannot declare a person a non person. Not yet anyway.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

39. Fourteenth Amendment

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Due process and equal protection. All that good stuff.

Privileges and immunities clause.

Gender and illegitimacy are subject to the medium scrutiny test.

[narnian60]

30. What century is this???

[MisterP]

48. some sort of complex number--literally off the chart by now, unmoored from actual time

[procon]

31. Permits will be next.

Women will have to obtain a state approval and get a reproductive permit before getting pregnant. Naturally the permits will be prohibitively restrictive to make sure only the right type of people qualify.

[Arkana]

32. This would get smacked down in court quicker than spit

even if it did pass.

[sarisataka]

33. Jesus' actual Father

wouldn't have been available to sign the birth certificate. Just sayin'

DNA evidence would be interesting, to say the least...

[joeybee12]

34. Good thing this isn't Alaska

Bristlecone Palin would have been in trouble

[Glassunion]

35. No surprise.

Republicans, being Republicans.

[elehhhhna]

36. so rape babies won't really exist. problem solved? wtf?

[Retrograde]

40. Or babies whose fathers died before they were born

As read the OP. even if a couple follow all the conservative family rules, getting married and all, but the father dies before the birth of the child - then there's no one to sign the birth certificate.

And why can't the mother be the main support?

[eShirl]

52. and they won't be able to vote or work

*if it passed and withstood legal challenges

[gollygee]

37. It also makes it hard to vote when they're grown up.

This is really horrible and it makes me very angry.

[Glitterati]

38. One small step to branding babies with "Bastard"

on their foreheads, at birth.

[yellowcanine]

41. Some of these cretins are still living in the 19th century.

Punish those wayward women. And their "illegitimate offspring."

[Fast Walker 52]

42. GOP mother fucking assholes

Why the fuck doesn't this shit come back to haunt them ever???

[hifiguy]

43. Ths is fucking insane.

But nothing about the teatalitarians and reichwing jebusoids actually surprises me anymore.

[Yavin4]

45. I don't care how much folks complain about the Democrats. There is a major difference.

When people post on here that there's no difference between the parties, shit like this needs to get thrown in their faces.

[KamaAina]

46. Good thing they finally solved that presky budget crisis

[bettyellen]

49. I guess Hillary would do the same, right guys?

thats what I keep reading in GDP.

[ErikJ]

50. They deny them affordable birth control, safe abortions then birth certificates.

Republicans are mean fuckers.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

54. Well

If their kids wanted to get a birth certificate they shouldn't have been born to a single mother!

[Mc Mike]

56. Pro-life repugs are lying nazi swine.

Your post got 2 re-posts over the other site. One crediting you was hidden.