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cap

(7,170 posts)
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 01:57 PM Feb 2016

Trumps weak spot: his wives

1. Immigration status history.

Models very often start working under the table before they get a permanent green card. In Melania's interview, she says she was here legally until she got her green card. Every few months, she went back to Slovenia for a renewal until she got her green card. This is how people work under the table without overstaying their tourist visa. Question: what visa could she have held that would have allowed her to do this legally? How did she not get an H1b visa (yes, models can get them)? If she had an h1b visa, she wouldn't have had to take multiple trips. Green cards aren't awarded to someone without a good history with an employer. How do you get a green card so early-- it usually takes 10 years on an h1b? What is the timeline of her visas and her relationship with the Donald? Did she sleep her way to legal status? How did someone pull strings to get her to the head of the list?

How did she live in NYc without employment? Could have lived on savings?

Between age 18 and 26, what was she doing? She started off doing photo shoots in Paris and Milan and then finally settled in NY at age 26 (assume green card?). When did she get involved with trumps modeling agency. Did they sponsor her green card?

2. Tax evasion
Were her taxes paid properly? What was the basis for her residence in Slovenia ?

Ditto for Ivana.

Keep talking Melania. We want to know your story.



Melania's interview : [link:http://www.inquisitr.com/2827029/melania-trumps-morning-joe-interview-ignites-controversy-her-stance-on-donalds-immigration-plan/|

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Trumps weak spot: his wives (Original Post) cap Feb 2016 OP
Real models talk about visas cap Feb 2016 #1
These are not weaks spots... not at all yourpaljoey Feb 2016 #2
I don't care for this line of attack. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #3
You could say the same thing about Bill clinton cap Feb 2016 #7
Is Bill Clinton running again? nt TBF Feb 2016 #9
No but many attacks on Hillary are tied to bills actions cap Feb 2016 #18
You're the only one bringing up Monica. TBF Feb 2016 #24
I am on the fence between Hillary and sanders. cap Feb 2016 #27
he's holding events! snooper2 Feb 2016 #31
I doubt that Melanoma's immigration history will be of much interest jberryhill Feb 2016 #4
If trump expedited her green card cap Feb 2016 #5
If he stowed her onboard a yacht and smuggled her in... jberryhill Feb 2016 #10
If he called the state department or a politician for a favor cap Feb 2016 #14
Add in a political contribution and it's a quid pro quo cap Feb 2016 #19
There are legal methods to speed up getting US residency. FSogol Feb 2016 #28
Normally I agree, but this is Trump. Someone photoshop his wives meeting Putin, Kim Jong Un, & FSogol Feb 2016 #12
Trump will go ballistic and overplay his hand cap Feb 2016 #16
Then, photoshop Trump attending a flag burning and a police gun turn-in program event. FSogol Feb 2016 #26
Working illegally and getting married to such an anti immigrant candidate cap Feb 2016 #13
So the fuck what? jberryhill Feb 2016 #17
And we are dealing with a gutter candidate cap Feb 2016 #22
ROFLMKO* meow2u3 Feb 2016 #32
Damned autocorrect jberryhill Feb 2016 #37
His base doesn't care and in the GE Republicans and others will simply be voting against Hillary. Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #6
His base doesn't care about anything cap Feb 2016 #8
I wasn't aware that he had more than one scscholar Feb 2016 #11
Melania is number three cap Feb 2016 #15
But the Wiki page says she is only one... scscholar Feb 2016 #23
Sorry to say wives instead of one wife and 2 ex wives cap Feb 2016 #29
Do you ask how many wives have you had, or how many ex wives have you had? snooper2 Feb 2016 #33
My point is conflict of interest cap Feb 2016 #36
I don't want this racist Eurotrash becoming the First Lady of MY country (NSFW) 951-Riverside Feb 2016 #20
Barely speak English? jberryhill Feb 2016 #39
I think she is almost perfect for our new Idiocracy ! Person 2713 Feb 2016 #40
Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #21
No cap Feb 2016 #25
and the results are in! yuiyoshida Feb 2016 #30
Already had an OP hidden for the same bigoted garbage Major Nikon Feb 2016 #35
Melanie's official biography only lists photographers and magazine photos and covers cap Feb 2016 #34
You ought to be careful with that considering Bill Clinton's past LittleBlue Feb 2016 #38
His sordid marital history is protection against his trying to make something of Bill Clinton. randome Feb 2016 #41
Melania and Trump are a bit "Palinesque" cap Feb 2016 #46
Sex with Melania -- Howard Stern interview cap Feb 2016 #47
Melania on Trump in bed cap Feb 2016 #48
A little time line cap Feb 2016 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author bettyellen Feb 2016 #43
You are right let me fix this cap Feb 2016 #44
no prob! bettyellen Feb 2016 #45
When trump was running for President in 1999, Melania was campaigning with him cap Feb 2016 #49

cap

(7,170 posts)
1. Real models talk about visas
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:02 PM
Feb 2016

Contrary to Washington post story, here are real models asking about getting legal visas to work in the US [link:http:// modelmayhem.com/forums/post/851486| It ain't easy.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
3. I don't care for this line of attack.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:03 PM
Feb 2016

Trump's policy ideas are his disqualifer. His wife isn't running for office.

cap

(7,170 posts)
18. No but many attacks on Hillary are tied to bills actions
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:13 PM
Feb 2016

Both personal and policy.

If we get all Monica all the time, turnabout is fair play.

TBF

(32,062 posts)
24. You're the only one bringing up Monica.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:20 PM
Feb 2016

Bottom line, Sanders is the only candidate who has a chance against Trump in the general.

cap

(7,170 posts)
27. I am on the fence between Hillary and sanders.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:22 PM
Feb 2016

Last election was on fence between Hillary and Obama but went for Obama in the primary.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
4. I doubt that Melanoma's immigration history will be of much interest
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:03 PM
Feb 2016

This "going after the wife" thing is a poor strategy. I am reminded of the "happy giddy dance" on DU a few years back on the basis that John McCain's wife had a history of drug problems and questionable financial management of her charity.

Melanoma is not running for any office, and whatever circumstances may have placed her in the US prior to meeting Trump, doesn't have squat to do with Trump.
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
10. If he stowed her onboard a yacht and smuggled her in...
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:07 PM
Feb 2016

...it might be interesting too. But there's nothing to suggest he did.

Trump is such a fat target that this sort of thing is simply mean-spirited and petty. She's his wife, she's here, and that's all anyone is going to care.

cap

(7,170 posts)
14. If he called the state department or a politician for a favor
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:11 PM
Feb 2016

Especially for a girl friend it does.

cap

(7,170 posts)
19. Add in a political contribution and it's a quid pro quo
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:15 PM
Feb 2016

Timeline would place it during bush administration

FSogol

(45,488 posts)
28. There are legal methods to speed up getting US residency.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:23 PM
Feb 2016

Depositing $1 million in a US bank does wonders for your application.

FSogol

(45,488 posts)
12. Normally I agree, but this is Trump. Someone photoshop his wives meeting Putin, Kim Jong Un, &
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:08 PM
Feb 2016

the #2 guy at ISIS. Let the fun begin!

FSogol

(45,488 posts)
26. Then, photoshop Trump attending a flag burning and a police gun turn-in program event.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:20 PM
Feb 2016


Of course, the media could talk about his racial discrimination suit, his frequent bankruptcies, and his shady business dealings....

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
17. So the fuck what?
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:12 PM
Feb 2016

First, you have utterly nothing to back up "working illegally".

Second, if she was, it was before she met him.

Third, look how well the divorced Ronald Reagan went over with the "family values" crowd.

There's a jackass that shows up on DU every couple of months with similar theories about how Jeb Bush's wife is "really an illegal immigrant".

Going with an attack against someone's lawfully married wife on the grounds that you have suspicions about her because "she's a furriner" is just gutter stuff.
 

scscholar

(2,902 posts)
23. But the Wiki page says she is only one...
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:17 PM
Feb 2016

and he divorced the other two. I think the OP is telling a lie in the title to create click-bait. It sucks to see this discussion site destroyed by such actions. He does not have wives.

cap

(7,170 posts)
36. My point is conflict of interest
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:47 PM
Feb 2016

If you are going to run for president on an anti immigration platform, it's a fair question to inquire about your foreign born wife (s) immigration history. We ask about politicians wives all the time.

 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
20. I don't want this racist Eurotrash becoming the First Lady of MY country (NSFW)
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:15 PM
Feb 2016


Remember she supports banning Muslims from entering the US but can barely speak English and has no problem putting her goods on display for all the world to see.

I sure wouldn't want American girls looking up to such trash.
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
39. Barely speak English?
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:53 PM
Feb 2016

She speaks English just fine. Yes, she has an accent. So what?

This is the same sort of bigoted bullshit my mother had to put up with as a native Austrian who became a war bride and came to the US.

Throughout her career as an environmental activist and a political candidate, she had to put up with the same shit from people like you over "she's sound Russian" and similar comments on her accent.

And, yeah, she was quite a looker back in the day. So what?

Do you think Arianna Huffington "barely speaks English"?

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cap

(7,170 posts)
25. No
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:20 PM
Feb 2016

Because they aren't running on an anti immigrant position for president.

Btw, for the record, I am for a legal path to citizenship. Working in the shadows is too abusive. People fleeing from violence in Latin America need to work in the us legally.

yuiyoshida

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30. and the results are in!
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:33 PM
Feb 2016

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cap

(7,170 posts)
34. Melanie's official biography only lists photographers and magazine photos and covers
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:37 PM
Feb 2016

No employers -- no agencies. Usually models work through agencies.

What is her work record?

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
38. You ought to be careful with that considering Bill Clinton's past
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:51 PM
Feb 2016

Somehow I doubt the Clintons want to explain Jeffrey Epstein.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
41. His sordid marital history is protection against his trying to make something of Bill Clinton.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 03:51 PM
Feb 2016

Hillary can always say, "At least Bill and I are still together." Regardless of how much truth there is to that, it is at least public perception.
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cap

(7,170 posts)
46. Melania and Trump are a bit "Palinesque"
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 04:06 PM
Feb 2016

Trump has commented on Melania's bathroom behavior.

In a separate 2004 appearance, Trump engaged in an especially peculiar conversation about his girlfriend Melania (now his wife), saying he had never witnessed her pass gas or defecate.
Trump, referencing an earlier conversation with Stern, said, “You said something a while ago about Beth (Stern’s girlfriend) that amazed me, because it applies to Melania. You said you’ve never seen here do anything like, bad, in terms of her own personal.”
“You said you’ve never heard her fart. Is that true? Is that amazing? In years, three and a half years,” Trump continued. Stern told Trump that his girlfriend had only pooped four times in three years.
“I’m gonna say, I can say the exact say thing about Melania,” Trump responded.
Stern then asked Trump if Melania ever “makes a doody.” Trump replied, “I’ve never see any, it’s amazing. Maybe they save that for after marriage.”
Asked about former wife Ivana’s bowel movements, Trump said, “It was a little more normal.”

[link:http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/trump-isnt-into-anal-melania-never-poops-and-other-things-he#.dyqyaL2v7|

There's a lot more ....

cap

(7,170 posts)
47. Sex with Melania -- Howard Stern interview
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 04:14 PM
Feb 2016

Stern asked some probing questions about Trump's relationship with model Melania Knauss, who is now his wife, in a 2003 interview.

Asked whether Knauss was taking birth control pills, Trump said yes. Stern then ribbed Trump about his second wife, Marla Maples, whose unplanned pregnancy gave him his daughter Tiffany.

"I bet you still pull out, just to make sure?" Stern asked.

"No, I don't. [Melania's] just amazing," Trump said.

[link:http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/donald-trump-on-sex|

The Donald trash talks about Melania



cap

(7,170 posts)
48. Melania on Trump in bed
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 04:18 PM
Feb 2016

Melania would be the only known first lady who once posed nude - for the British edition of GQ, on a bearskin rug on Trump's private jet before they were married in 2000,
She told Howard Stern that same year, 'We have incredible sex at least once a day. Sometimes even more.'
Trump bragged about Melania's hotness in a 'very small thong.'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3201088/Melania-Trump-Lady-pose-NUDE-talk-incredible-sex-life-Donald-Howard-Stern-rival-Jackie-Kennedy-elegance-style-quiet-strength.html#ixzz41DG0XzRZ

cap

(7,170 posts)
42. A little time line
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 03:54 PM
Feb 2016

Melania was born in 1970. Started her modeling career at age 12 by winning a contest.
Was photographed in Slovenia by famous photographer, Steve jerko,

Introduced at a party in 1998, one year after he had split from his second wife, Marla Maples, "I saw Melania and I said, 'Who is that?' " Trump recalls. "She was a very successful model. She was terrific. I tried to get her number, and she wouldn't give it to me."

Why the cold shoulder?

"He came to the party with a date!" Melania explains, laughing. "I had heard he was a ladies' man, and so I said, 'I'm not one of the ladies.' He said later that he sent her to the ladies' room so he could get my number. I was like, 'Oh what a sneaky way!' "

Still, Melania says she liked his "sparkle" and took his number. After returning from a modeling gig in the Caribbean, she called him, and on their first date, "we talked for almost the whole night," she says.
. -- People magazine [link:http://www.people.com/article/donald-trump-melania-wife-relationship-marriage|

So Melania started dating Trump when she was 28 and he was 46.

She did work for two agencies -- Irene Marie ( out of Palm Beach, closed in 2009) and Trump modeling agency.

She became a permanent resident of us (has a green card) in 2001 and married Trump in 2005. Got citizenship in 2006 (perfectly legal being married to Us citizen). It's easy to get confused about getting citizenship from her quote about being on green card for years and then getting citizenship without mentioning marriage.

So no problem about marriage. But what was going on between age 1988 and 2001. How did she get the green card? Was she legally working as an employee of the agencies or as a 1099. How did she file taxes?

Response to cap (Reply #42)

cap

(7,170 posts)
49. When trump was running for President in 1999, Melania was campaigning with him
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 05:42 PM
Feb 2016

She was an attraction on the campaign trail. So.... Why is she hiding?

I think the front of she's a classy low key lady is just that, a front.

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